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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 05-10-2017, 09:12 AM Thread Starter
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Todd's TOTAL F- UP/Crash thread.

I had always ridden so controlled, and had been so safe- up until yesterday.

I could tell you the events that had happened that I believe got me off my game - which resulted in a crash. and the fact that one of the riders I was following- also went off the road in front of me, and I know I fixated on that too. I didn't take it down low side (should have) because I thought I could get it stopped before I went into the trees- wasn't happening.
I was totally my fault- I messed up- big time.

I was wearing Full Gear, full leathers, helmet, gloves boots, and a head neck hood 'cause it was cold out too.

The right hand turn was slightly on an uphill, which also unweighted my tires/braking power some. A road I've never ridden, and sort of a blind corner. Until then, I never would have been going that fast at that point, etc. I'm an idiot.

Basically, I F'd up- big time.

That night, I spoke with the other rider that went of the road in front of me- bike and he not hurt quite so bad as me. He said I was unconscious but breathing for about 1-2 minutes.

I knew some things were wrong, that I wanted imaging and no other way to get to a hospital except by ambulance.

I have a fractured left scapula (shoulder blade), and 2 x fractured ribs near my spine in the upper back just medial/inside the left shoulder blade.
And obviously a SEVERE, entire spinal Whiplash from being thrown thru the air so far and hitting trees and shrubs on the way down.
My back and torso, and the fractures hurt like a Beatch.

They wanted to keep me in Observation for the rib fractures- I elected to go home b/c all those fractures won't require surgery or any kind of splint/cast.

I'm a TOTAL idiot.

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I think the third pictures some the EMT around me, way past the bike. I was like 30+ feet away- I think some trees on the way slowed me down.

I am SO disappointed in Myself,
I screwed up so badly, and I'm paying for it in the pain I have when I move any.
I normally ride so controlled- I'm such an idiot.

My trip planned for end of this month to the Dragon is gone.
According to the wife- my riding is over also.
This is my first crash on street bikes- maybe my last also.

One of the riders I was with cam back with a trailer and took it to his shop in a nearby town.

Edit- Turns out that you can read your Radiology scan reports online now too.
I am really sort of pissed- had they told me it was this extensive- I probably would have stayed in the hospital for pain control.

I'm really pissed they DIDN'T tell me the extent of all my injuries before I left.

Comminuted and displaced Left Scapula= badly broken Left shoulder blade.
2 displaced fractured ribs posterlateral 3rd and 4th
Non displaced Left lateral 7th rib
Non displaced Right posterior 7th rib- @ the costovertebral junction- adjacent to my spine
non-displaced comminuted fracture of the right
transverse process of T8 & T1.= in place; in pieces of the right projection of my vertebera/spine

With the pain I was in, I probably would NOT have left the hospital that morning knowing this,
Oh well- I'm actually making it, and can now move and sit up without screaming in writhing pain- I know right? What a whimp I am.

To call myself such an idiot is the understatement of the century

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post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old 05-10-2017, 09:47 AM
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I'm really sorry for your pain. I've been there, and done that. I hope you heal soon, and I'm glad you're still with us.


P.S. You sound like an old school rider, taking all the responsibility for the crash, instead of some squid wanting to blame it on a stuck throttle, sand on the road, another rider, etc. It's harsh I know, but without the truth, you learn nothing. Here's hoping for a better and brighter day. Hang in there!
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It happens Todd, don't be too hard on yourself.
The wife may relent in time but I wouldn't count on it.

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Sorry about your situation but glad to see you aren't trying to make excuses for it.

Breaking your scapula is pretty damn hard to do. When I did mine (at the track) the hospital said it was only the 2nd one they'd ever seen. The other guy had fallen off a ladder.

Here's to a speedy, full recovery.
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Wow Todd, sorry to hear this but glad you are still here to tell us your story. Crashing is never fun
well get some rest and heal up. Just try to tell the old lady you learned from your mistake and you will be more careful next time around. Also keep your finger and toes crossed that she'll let you ride again. Mine tried to keep me off after my accident but she also knew it wasn't going to happen, so she just gave in
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What no video? Sorry couldn't resist. Very unfortunate
situation for you and I can sense the pain you must be in.
When one goes to the hospital after an accident whomever
is w/them should really help them out as to "what's going on"
in the hospital. When you are injured you don't hear the doc/nurse
telling you how bad a shape you are in (being full of pain meds/etc..).
No hospital is going to not tell you how injured you are and put themselves
into a litigation situation. Would bet you have prescriptions for meds
from them to manage your pain. We all want to get out of the
hospital ASAP, but sometimes it's too soon. If your insurance will
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GSXR of course). Again, sorry to hear of your misfortune.
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Awww, man, that sucks. I'm glad you're alive to tell the tale. Tell me, though, as you were crashing, were you more worried about yourself or your bike? It was the latter for myself, which is why I asked. Here's to a speedy recovery. Your wife may relent in time if you don't have kids, but if you do, I wouldn't count on it. Maybe time for a two seater sports car instead?
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That sucks, man! Stay with us on the forum even if you don't keep riding.

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Hope you're coping ok Todd. Crashes are a bitch.
I think a few of us have had some bad situations in motorcycling.
Everyone eventually has a cross road they come to.
I've been down hard a couple times and a handful of smaller stuff.
I started riding pretty young, I've had more bikes than I can remember.
I crashed about 8-9 years ago, thats when I broke my ribs and cracked clavicle. Forgot my wrist was broken also.
I managed to ride the bike home afterwards in pain.

Laid up for a while, after I had got home, I couldnt even get out of bed the next day, was busted up worse than I knew.

If it werent for my shear love of riding, an not remembering what it was like to not ride, I might have stopped.

But here I am today, riding track mostly.
That choice is always yours to make, no one can tell you different.
Whatever you choose, own it and simply be happy.

Hope you get feeling better soon and see good improvement. Sometimes it seems like it takes forever, but looking back, it will seem shorter.
Holler later bro.
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That sucks to hear. Glad you took ownership of it....best way not to repeat it.

First couple of days hurt the most, but thats just the body making a game plan for recovery. Just take it one day at a time, and you will heal. Each day will be better than the last.

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Sucks about your off. Glad you are able to tell your story. Taking ownership says a lot about your character. Hoping for a speedy recovery and getting back on two wheels soon.

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Thanks for the replies and thoughts everyone

And thanks for the comments about taking ownership of it too.
I always got a kick out of those that blamed int on gravel, a chuck hole, etc.
Until last Sunday, I had always anticipated and rode for the conditions. That always kept me safe.
I've low sided by dirt bikes in the past, but never crashed my street bikes.

There were several series of events that morning that took me off my normal 'routine', and unfortunately I paid for it big time.

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Damn Todd, very sorry to read this. You will get back on 2 wheels once you heal up and this all blows over, you won't live comfortable with yourself if you don't. I've crashed and dealt with it then got back on just as you will. And I came back better and stronger just as you will. Even my yellow beast came back better than it was before it followed down the rabbit hole...
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Oh man so sorry to hear this Todd...I know I have definitely been there all it takes is time and you'll be better than before..because you are wiser now. Another silver lining to this which may apply, you now have the option of turning your cashed bike into a track bike!

About the wife, mine was anti bike too when my shattered forearm was mending.....8 weeks after that I had another bike in the garage..I couldn't even ride it home I had to have my boy pick it up for me....so if she knows how much it means to you she will see the light....

God Bless and here's to a quick and painless recovery

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Oh man so sorry to hear this Todd...I know I have definitely been there all it takes is time and you'll be better than before..because you are wiser now. Another silver lining to this which may apply, you now have the option of turning your cashed bike into a track bike!

About the wife, mine was anti bike too when my shattered forearm was mending.....8 weeks after that I had another bike in the garage..I couldn't even ride it home I had to have my boy pick it up for me....so if she knows how much it means to you she will see the light....

God Bless and here's to a quick and painless recovery
I agree. I hate to say it, but someone who loves you won't try to stop you from doing what you love. Accidents happen and you're still here.
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BION, I already found a mint condition BlueWhite scheme K6 w/ full Yoshi system for under 6K! near me in the Chicago area.
Now I'm waiting to see what State Farm was going to give me for my mint K5!

If I can pull this off, this will be awesome!
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How many miles were on the OG K6 u had? lol.

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How many miles were on the OG K6 u had? lol.
Still under 15K miles

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Sweetness!! did you have accessories coverage?? I got an extra $3100 for mine and then bought the bike back with $1500 of it. I suggest everyone add this to their policy.
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Todd!! I didn't think ya'll had curves in Texas?

Don't beat yourself up man! I came to this site,due
to a recent crash,kinda like yours in the injury dept.
Ive crashed a lot!! Road Atlanta,Talladega,and several
street crashes on the road,and a few bad dirt bike offs.

This current one has my shoulder and left arm in agony every day.
Its been a few months,and I drive a 10 speed tractor trailer nightly.
I'm old,broken,sore,and unsure I will ever be 100 % again,but I'm not quitting!!

On the wife advice..ease into it..A good evening out,few drinks,and just start talking
about what your gonna ride when your healed up.She may object at first,then start making deals!
Tell her what your gonna do to not crash again,and be honest about what riding does for you.
Stay with it,and heal up!!

edit..sorry..saw your in WI. wth you doing in WI? that aint Texas :_)
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Hello all, sorry I haven't posted any updates in a few days/week.
I'm doing much better.
I was so happy to have gone back to work this last Friday for about 6 hours, and intend to be full time tomorrow and on.
Moreout of stubbornness than toughness I think, I already took my self off the narcotics a few days ago- (still have plenty left btw). Just ibuprofen and claritin/allergy this morning.
The worst of my pains was my right arm radiculopathy(neatr impingement pain), not all the fractures I have in my back, ribs and scpaula/shoulder blade.-
Thank you for my 'family' here too.

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Todd!! I didn't think ya'll had curves in Texas?

Don't beat yourself up man! I came to this site,due
to a recent crash,kinda like yours in the injury dept.
Ive crashed a lot!! Road Atlanta,Talladega,and several
street crashes on the road,and a few bad dirt bike offs.

This current one has my shoulder and left arm in agony every day.
Its been a few months,and I drive a 10 speed tractor trailer nightly.
I'm old,broken,sore,and unsure I will ever be 100 % again,but I'm not quitting!!

On the wife advice..ease into it..A good evening out,few drinks,and just start talking
about what your gonna ride when your healed up.She may object at first,then start making deals!
Tell her what your gonna do to not crash again,and be honest about what riding does for you.
Stay with it,and heal up!!

edit..sorry..saw your in WI. wth you doing in WI? that aint Texas :_)
Thanks for your kind words, I hope your injuries continue to heal well too.

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Awww, man, that sucks. I'm glad you're alive to tell the tale. Tell me, though, as you were crashing, were you more worried about yourself or your bike? It was the latter for myself, which is why I asked. Here's to a speedy recovery. Your wife may relent in time if you don't have kids, but if you do, I wouldn't count on it. Maybe time for a two seater sports car instead?
NOw that you ask, I think the split second it happened- more for my mint condition K5 than myself, I managed to bounce off a bunch of trees flying thru the air at about 60-70ish? The bike was stopped by one tree in it's tracks, kept going and if I posted those pics of the tank flattened- that took a lot of force- I had just filled up with gas too- I was suprised it didn't burst open, catch fire- then I could have callled it a 'crash and burn'! I was completely unconscious for about 2 minutes they told me right away, but was breathing. I 'woke' with bad arm and back pain (ribs, back and scapula fractures)- and was still just more worried about my bike. I actually thought I was going to get up and dust it off and make it to the group tide I was going to! THAT was not happening at that point however.

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Hope you're coping ok Todd. Crashes are a bitch.
I think a few of us have had some bad situations in motorcycling.
Everyone eventually has a cross road they come to.
I've been down hard a couple times and a handful of smaller stuff.
I started riding pretty young, I've had more bikes than I can remember.
I crashed about 8-9 years ago, thats when I broke my ribs and cracked clavicle. Forgot my wrist was broken also.
I managed to ride the bike home afterwards in pain.

Laid up for a while, after I had got home, I couldnt even get out of bed the next day, was busted up worse than I knew.

If it werent for my shear love of riding, an not remembering what it was like to not ride, I might have stopped.

But here I am today, riding track mostly.
That choice is always yours to make, no one can tell you different.
Whatever you choose, own it and simply be happy.

Hope you get feeling better soon and see good improvement. Sometimes it seems like it takes forever, but looking back, it will seem shorter.
Holler later bro.
Thank you for your kind words and sharing some of your incredible story also.

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That sucks to hear. Glad you took ownership of it....best way not to repeat it.

First couple of days hurt the most, but thats just the body making a game plan for recovery. Just take it one day at a time, and you will heal. Each day will be better than the last.

Here's to your speedy and full recovery

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Thanks- Twas nobodies fault but mine. I'm blessed nothing except a few trees in the woods- not someones lawn/garden was else that was injured.
The friend who also crashed on the same corner about 100 feet in front of me had managed to get more speed bleed off before his crash- and he is repairing his bike (his net finds for his apriia will be abot $1200 he says), and his physical injuries were not as severe as mine.
We had our Sena headsets on with each other at the time; he says he called for me, made it over to me, and thought I was dead- says he really freaked out- I'm feel bad for him for that.
he then said he loosed my chin strap a bit and say I was breathing and pulled me off of a tree a was draped over ( I had flown FAR from my bike ). He said I was incompletely out for about 2 minutes. I now remember him telling me that while I was laying on the ground, but when I got in the ambulance, and at the trauma bay at the level 1 trauma center here in Milwaukee- I was GCS 15- (basically means talking correctly/answering questions, eyes were OK, and I cold move extremities and localize pains)
I told them I did not pass out- when it turns out I had lost consciousness big time.
So essentially- I have/had a major concussion- my ~ 2 month old HJC helmet saved alot upstairs.

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Oh man so sorry to hear this Todd...I know I have definitely been there all it takes is time and you'll be better than before..because you are wiser now. Another silver lining to this which may apply, you now have the option of turning your cashed bike into a track bike!

About the wife, mine was anti bike too when my shattered forearm was mending.....8 weeks after that I had another bike in the garage..I couldn't even ride it home I had to have my boy pick it up for me....so if she knows how much it means to you she will see the light....

God Bless and here's to a quick and painless recovery
Thank you for your kind words.
Possibly- I've been considering- State Farm is putting it on Net auction- and there estimate for it salvage is $1406. I'd love to get and keep it, there are still a few good parts- but the engine is still perfect with no fluid/casing leaks!- I'll be working on that too, but without a nearly total rebuild- I wopld never put it on the street or any track.
My wife may come around too- she knows me too well after 22yrs of marriage.


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I agree. I hate to say it, but someone who loves you won't try to stop you from doing what you love. Accidents happen and you're still here.
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Sweetness!! did you have accessories coverage?? I got an extra $3100 for mine and then bought the bike back with $1500 of it. I suggest everyone add this to their policy.
They are giving me some 100% for accessories/upgrades- so they say also. I've only had it since last september, and got it already so nice- I'm coming up with several hundred dollars I think they'll agree to also.
They already estimated $1406 on online auction- technically, I still have the title in my name, but I'm sure I have to give up my rights when they salvage it. I'm still trying to work on getting it back too before it's gone. The engine- has some mods, runs perfect- and currently has 14,600 miles on it.

For those I didn't quote, thank you just as much.
I'm sorry I'm missing you at Deals Gap this year-
Thank you for the love of this family,
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Good to hear you're doing well. I'm impressed you're back to work already, but I can empathize that sitting around the house is no fun.

Yes, coming across a motionless rider is no fun. A friend of mine whiskey throttled though a mud puddle on his DR650 about 10 miles from nowhere last year. He climbed a 5 ft bank and ended up against a tree with the bike on him.

I was about 100' behind him to stay out of the dust and when I came of over the crest of the hill, he was just gone. When I went another 50 ft, I finally saw the bike back in the brush and he wasn't moving. As I climbed the bank he spoke to me and that was a great relief.

After getting the bike and him down the bank, we rode the 20 miles to the hospital with his broken left ankle. It was either that or an hour plus wait for an ambulance and another hour riding in the back of said ambulance over a rough, rocky forest road. Neither one is fun.

I realized I needed to take some updated first aid courses.

Later I found I had just caught him going off road on my gopro.

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Thank you for those kind words and story John.

Again, thank all of the family here also- it really helps.

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Thank you for those kind words and story John.

Again, thank all of the family here also- it really helps.
Auction?? They won't just sell it to you directly???? I dealt with Progressive and they were great..very easy to deal with. I spoke to the same adjuster the whole time and all I had to say was "can I buy the bike back ?" The next day he gave me a quote on the claim payments for the bike with and without me buying it back. You should def get fist dibs on your own bike.

Do you have any pics of the bike after the crash? Mine was a high side so it was pretty bad. Rear subframe was cracked in two places so instant total loss. Buying it back just to sell the parts alone would have been worth it. Buying it back and rebuilding it into something that will make me a better/faster/safer rider was awesome!!

I really hope it works out how you want it to.
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Auction?? They won't just sell it to you directly???? I dealt with Progressive and they were great..very easy to deal with. I spoke to the same adjuster the whole time and all I had to say was "can I buy the bike back ?" The next day he gave me a quote on the claim payments for the bike with and without me buying it back. You should def get fist dibs on your own bike.

Do you have any pics of the bike after the crash? Mine was a high side so it was pretty bad. Rear subframe was cracked in two places so instant total loss. Buying it back just to sell the parts alone would have been worth it. Buying it back and rebuilding it into something that will make me a better/faster/safer rider was awesome!!

I really hope it works out how you want it to.
TY- I'm trying to go that route.
I'm not as lawyer- but they haven't paid out anything yet, and the title is legal in my name, I'm still here,
it's still my bike!
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OK, Today was 1 week back at work! In all honesty, I went back too soon after my 'Concussion with Loss of consciousness'
I've recovered enough now, to realize how off I was and how Big a HIT my head, and spine/back really took.

After humming and hawing though- I've made my decision (after talking to the rider/friend who first trailered my crashed bike to his truck mechanic shop)-

I'M REBUILDING IT!!

With the payout minus the salvage to get it back- I still get about $3500 back, to rebuild it with!

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Ya may have realized how partial I am to the blue/white OEM fariing paint scheme combo I had,
and sort of proud like we all are of how clean that bike was, and how well it ran.

Well, days after my crash I could still use the computer/laptop some, and began looking for something like I had. A K5/6 Blue/white- nearly mint, w/ low miles. (Did I want any cheese to go with that whine?)

Well last night, I checked a neighboring town, and, I may have found one!
But until I HAVE IT, I'll chill.
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