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Ignition dwell & battery?

Hi guys, while editin the dwell times,i also heared that the battery helps a lot loading up the coils,is there better to run higher amp battery? Also are the "energy" coils worth any dollar? Cheers

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There's no need for more coil intensity unless you are running more than 13:1 compression on average. Very high compression can actually eliminate spark intensity. Near stock compression it is not necessary.

Carbureted bikes benefit from stronger coils because their fuel mixture is less than optimal, thus needed to completely burn the mixture. Modern day fuel injected bike, there is no need and manufacturers have produced more than optimal coils for the application.

Here is a link that explains things Im referring to in more detail, its worth the read.

High Performance Ignition Coils www.motorcycleproject.com

At my previous shop we built 300hp turbo Hayabusas using stock coils.

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Cool thank you, what would be a good ignition adv. For the 1000 k6? Right now i have set the map 5-6 for the rest and keeping neutral as factory,have also given earlier openings of stva /secondary tb plates / and adjusted afr to 13.2

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The best timing is the timing that doesn't cause your bike to pre-ignite. Which, as you might imagine, is not the same for every bike, so it's smarter to start at a low setting and work your way up.

Timing To Win: Ignition Timing for Maximum Performance - How To - Hot Rod Network

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How do you determine? Stetoscope?

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How do you determine? Stetoscope?

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A listening device will work, but you have to be very careful.

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That at high revs..puff

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Cool thank you, what would be a good ignition adv. For the 1000 k6? Right now i have set the map 5-6 for the rest and keeping neutral as factory,have also given earlier openings of stva /secondary tb plates / and adjusted afr to 13.2

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Sounds great and forgive me for not knowing what all you have,

But what are you using, Power commander 5? What?

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Ecu flash from woolich

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A 5 degree advance helps most folks.

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Aparently up to 7 by this values

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You can adjust an ECU flash on your own at home?

I thought 5degree was the stock advance, maybe you meant 5 more degrees?
My 'ol Honda 350 twin had a counterbalancer thingy that would advance the timing by centrifigal force with increased rpms by using this spring loaded thingy- at least I think I remember that- was a long time ago.

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You can adjust an ECU flash on your own at home?




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Thats the one

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The blue cells are the modds i did changing the ign from factory settings 5-6 gear through 1 to 4 leaving neutral factory, dont need a performance map in neutral....some kids might do to be the best neutral revers till blow up...jzzzz

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So,back to issue...how can i best determine this? Increase or decrease values here?? I can add % but i dont have a dyno at home to test torque...maybe just giving it +5% from 6000rpm and 50%tps and above...im quite careful with this..dont want to look through a piston or any similar

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