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how to wheelie with a 600?!?

HELP! what is the best way to get the front wheel off the ground on a stock 06 gsxr 600?! power wheelie ive found out aint workin for me.. and clutch is probably the best but idk what rpm to do it all at so if you guys could help a beginner wheelier it would be appreciated!

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HELP! what is the best way to get the front wheel off the ground on a stock 06 gsxr 600?! power wheelie ive found out aint workin for me.. and clutch is probably the best but idk what rpm to do it all at so if you guys could help a beginner wheelier it would be appreciated!
rev 4k .. riding .. in 2nd gear

cluth in .. rev to 6k .. dump clutch ..


do that going up 1k at a time until you reach where you feel comfortable ..

we cant say just rev to 4k .. clutch in rev to 10 and dump it ... its diff for every rider / setup ...

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how long u been riding? if ur brand new, a busa is the best bet. comfortable bike, but they're slow as shit. turbo that sucker then ur good to go.
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so when i dump the clutch u mean just completley let go and let it fly huh? kinda scary haha but im sure ill get uesd to it going 1k at a time

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so when i dump the clutch u mean just completley let go and let it fly huh? kinda scary haha but im sure ill get uesd to it going 1k at a time
thats why you do it 1k at a time ! =0


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1st gear wheelies just have WAY high chance to loop .. and then hard to hold up if your new .. due to the engine brakeing (compression) soon as yo ulet off throttle .. you set it down fast / hard .. and can blow seals fast / frequently ...


2nd gear bounce up / clutch up .. are the best ....

bounce up requires speed
clutch up requires nothing

... also for better stability ... try letting out 10psi in your rear tire .. .. dont let out so much that its sloppy .. but enuff that you have more contact with the ground


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Bang it off the rev limiter and dump the clutch.............

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ROFL ROFL ROFL .. you better be in 6th gear .. going 12MPH in order to walk away from that


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HELP! what is the best way to get the front wheel off the ground on a stock 06 gsxr 600?! power wheelie ive found out aint workin for me.. and clutch is probably the best but idk what rpm to do it all at so if you guys could help a beginner wheelier it would be appreciated!
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i was going to say the same thing........there is a video floating around the site........if you search you may find it

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Lern how to ride it on 2 wheels before you start learning how to stunt on 1
AMEN ..

<--- pins in shoulder / knee .. plate in head .. bone graph in wrist ...

stunting = dangerous ... you get to comfortable .. and shit can go wrong no matter your comfort / ability ..

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ROFL ROFL ROFL .. you better be in 6th gear .. going 12MPH in order to walk away from that
and make sure your not on soap, dont need slippery areas.....

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ok so u guys say u cant really even get the wheel up with power? people make it look so easy i try it and nothing.. i get up to about 10k let it drop to like 8k then rip on it and i jus get jerkd around

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ok so u guys say u cant really even get the wheel up with power? people make it look so easy i try it and nothing.. i get up to about 10k let it drop to like 8k then rip on it and i jus get jerkd around
you can get it up with power, it just is sloppy unless you have really good throttle control.

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HELP! what is the best way to get the front wheel off the ground on a stock 06 gsxr 600?! power wheelie ive found out aint workin for me.. and clutch is probably the best but idk what rpm to do it all at so if you guys could help a beginner wheelier it would be appreciated!
Dude my 04 600 was bone stock n I got it up in first gear powering. I'm not a small dude either. I would just gun it from a dead stop to about 6k then release throttle n just open up n up it came
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ok so u guys say u cant really even get the wheel up with power? people make it look so easy i try it and nothing.. i get up to about 10k let it drop to like 8k then rip on it and i jus get jerkd around
you can bounce 2nd that way .. do this .. dont worry about RPM as much ...


WARNING YOU CAN GET HURT ... but this is how i do it

go in 2nd gear .... go about 55mph .. so 2nd should be high rpm at this point ...

-stand up ..
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-cut the throttle COMPLETELY (front will go down / forks will compress) YOU ARE STILL BENT OVER
-ON THE WAY BACK UP FROM THE FORKS DECOMPRESSING ... roll the throttle.. YOU WILL go into a vertical standup ... be easy .. hover rear brake (so you dont pass balance point) ...


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Dude my 04 600 was bone stock n I got it up in first gear powering. I'm not a small dude either. I would just gun it from a dead stop to about 6k then release throttle n just open up n up it came
1st gear wheelies are for morons ... learning in 1st is a death trap ! its for stunters .. oversize sprockets / slow mph

DO NOT LEARN HOW TO WHEELIE IN 1st GEAR POWERING IT UP ! YOU WILL LOOK LIKE A IDIOT .. BOUNCING THE FRONT WHEEL UP 12"'s for a few seconds AND SLAMMING IT ON THE FCKING GROUND !


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damn i feel like such a loser! haha but out of my couple friends i ride with im the only one that can do anything lol cept wheelie.. i jump up n sit on the gas tank and all that kind of shit and stopie i cant ride it but i can do it now i want to wheelie... so should i keep tryin to power it up? or just start gettin used to the clutch thing?

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damn i feel like such a loser! haha but out of my couple friends i ride with im the only one that can do anything lol cept wheelie.. i jump up n sit on the gas tank and all that kind of shit and stopie i cant ride it but i can do it now i want to wheelie... so should i keep tryin to power it up? or just start gettin used to the clutch thing?
DO NOT POWER UP 1st GEAR WHEELIES ! hard on you hard on bike ! ! ! ! ! FORK SEALS / YOUR HEAD ARE IN SERIOUS DANGER


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ok thnx i will practice with the clutch thing and see how it goes and get bak to you guys if im having trouble!

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ask questions .. train it properly .. when you master clutch ups .. then work on other things ... ask anything you want


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damn i feel like such a loser! haha but out of my couple friends i ride with im the only one that can do anything lol cept wheelie.. i jump up n sit on the gas tank and all that kind of shit and stopie i cant ride it but i can do it now i want to wheelie... so should i keep tryin to power it up? or just start gettin used to the clutch thing?
if you do em in second gear it will look better and be less jerky

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i was going to say the same thing........there is a video floating around the site........if you search you may find it
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ok so when i dump the clutch am i giving it gas at the same time? or just let it pop up first then start on the throttle

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Messing around ill pop the front wheel up in first power wheelie ... Never had a problem. And you only bust fork seals if your retarded and let the bike fall.

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if you do em in second gear it will look better and be less jerky
not to mention then you can learn shifting in wheelie ... and 1st - 2nd is always the hardest .. 2nd - 3rd etc .. easy easy easy


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And you only bust fork seals if your retarded and let the bike fall.
work in a bike shop .. see how many fcking morons are in there getting seals maintenanced from bouncing / slamming ...


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work in a bike shop .. see how many fcking morons are in there getting seals maintenanced from bouncing / slamming ...
oh and why the way u spelled morons wrong.....

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oh and why the way u spelled morons wrong.....
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work in a bike shop .. see how many fcking morons are in there getting seals maintenanced from bouncing / slamming ...
I don't doubt that for a second. Its sad what happens to nice bikes.

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I don't doubt that for a second. Its sad what happens to nice bikes.
its horrible .. horrible... how many fork seals / rear tails (passing balance point) are being replaced due to people not doing it properly ... 1st gear just has to much torque / engine brake to LEARN on ...

once you been riding enuff / wheelie enuff .. go for it .. its perfectly fine .. just harder to get used to it .. and hold it up in 1st .. not to mention .. running out of RPM's and having to do the hard 1st - 2nd shift ... 80% of the time drops the front wheel


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How do you spell moron?
I was just being sarcastic and busting his chops because in the thread that u locked this morning with the whole oil change deal I misspelled "moron" and some as wipe made a big deal about it as if I was the only illiterate one on this site, that's all just a little inside humor

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not to mention then you can learn shifting in wheelie ... and 1st - 2nd is always the hardest .. 2nd - 3rd etc .. easy easy easy
Ok so what's the best way to learn in 2nd if u don't wanna do a stand up like u explained in an earlier reply
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I was just being sarcastic and busting his chops because in the thread that u locked this morning with the whole oil change deal I misspelled "moron" and some as wipe made a big deal about it as if I was the only illiterate one on this site, that's all just a little inside humor



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Ok so what's the best way to learn in 2nd if u don't wanna do a stand up like u explained in an earlier reply
you can clutch up 2nd gear ... same process .. just sit down ..

ride to 4k rpm .. clutch in .. rev up 1k .. dump clutch .. it wont go up .. but go up 1k rpm each time till you feel comfortable .. best way to learn ... 2nd gear wheelie .. you can hold for a decent amount of time .. safely .. and look awsome .. wont run out of RPM (need to shift) .. for quite some time


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its horrible .. horrible... how many fork seals / rear tails (passing balance point) are being replaced due to people not doing it properly ... 1st gear just has to much torque / engine brake to LEARN on ...

once you been riding enuff / wheelie enuff .. go for it .. its perfectly fine .. just harder to get used to it .. and hold it up in 1st .. not to mention .. running out of RPM's and having to do the hard 1st - 2nd shift ... 80% of the time drops the front wheel
I am only able to clutch/power first because my clutch is on its way out. (Which is why I don't do wheelies often at all) If I had a stronger clutch I would have began to learn in 2nd.

When I first started 1st gear power I would twitch the throttle, and as soon as it came up I would let her down, and progress higher.

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