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post #41 of 1476 (permalink) Old 06-04-2013, 10:20 AM
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Damn! Got a call from Revzilla this morning. Psych! We really don't have a Q3 in stock...

Oh well, nothing wrong with the Q2. I hit up Chaparral for a Q2 and K&N filter. $180 for both, free shipping to Utah by Friday : )

Still super bummed about not getting to try the Q3. STG had some on the way in my size, but priority shipping from MI to UT was $90 bucks or so. I love STG. Maybe I should quit waiting until the last minute to buy parts...

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Damn! Got a call from Revzilla this morning. Psych! We really don't have a Q3 in stock...

Oh well, nothing wrong with the Q2. I hit up Chaparral for a Q2 and K&N filter. $180 for both, free shipping to Utah by Friday : )

Still super bummed about not getting to try the Q3. STG had some on the way in my size, but priority shipping from MI to UT was $90 bucks or so. I love STG. Maybe I should quit waiting until the last minute to buy parts...
Lol I'm the same way. Last possible minute! What's the difference between a Q3 an the GPA? They're both Dunlop right? Im not familiar with the Q3 at all. Is it like a 2CT and a Power Pure? Then the GPA is like the Power One? Sorry I normally run Michilins, but when I bought my GSXR it had a set of Q2s on there, and I loved em. Great tires. I thought the next step was the GPA.


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Congrats T. I sadly am not starting my season this weekend like planned. Once again some terrible financial misfortunes have hit my wife and I. She got my TPM FT membership for my bday and its not looking good for using it this year.

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Lol I'm the same way. Last possible minute! What's the difference between a Q3 an the GPA? They're both Dunlop right? Im not familiar with the Q3 at all. Is it like a 2CT and a Power Pure? Then the GPA is like the Power One? Sorry I normally run Michilins, but when I bought my GSXR it had a set of Q2s on there, and I loved em. Great tires. I thought the next step was the GPA.


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I think the GPA is more of a "track day" tire. IMHO, probably not worth the extra money. The Q3 is just the newer version of the Q2. Somehow or another, they worked in some carbon fiber. My buddy rode one on Sunday and loved it. My rear tire lasted longer than expected. I got my suspension setup when it was installed. I think that is making the tire last longer. Anyways...I might ship the Q2 back and trade for a Q3, although I can't really out-ride the Q2. The Q2/Q3 are Dunlop's equivalent to the 2ct.

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Got back into my workout routine. Down 5lbs last week trading fat for muscle. Now to shed a few more before this weekend @ VIR
I bonked after lunch on Sunday. I need to get into a better fitness routine. Today I feel like I've been in an MMA match. Until I started, I had no ideas track riding was so physical.

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Congrats T. I sadly am not starting my season this weekend like planned. Once again some terrible financial misfortunes have hit my wife and I. She got my TPM FT membership for my bday and its not looking good for using it this year.

I couldnt be more depressed about it.
Bummer, that sucks.

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The next-generation Supersport race tire developed and manufactured in the USA to specifically meet the needs of American racers and sportbike riders.
MT Multi-Tread compound gives the D211 GP-A rear tire unparalleled grip, excellent drive out of corners and superior on-track handling.
Jointless Band (JLB) rear-tire construction reduces tire growth for cooler running and enhanced grip.
AMA Spec Tire chosen for the 2010 & 2011 racing season. Excellent Track Day tire.

Yeah, probably not any better than the Q tires.

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I have been to one track day since I have had the GSXR. Did not hit redline in first gear.( part rider fault) The tracks around here are all small.

So I just made an offer and it looks to be going ahead for this.

I know its not a GSXR, but this is the only bike forum I really post on

I wont see it for a while, to busy with the job and its nearly 3000km away, but much cheaper than anything up here and I need to go go down that way in a car soon any way.

Its done 1000km 2012 model. It will be a straight race bike, tracks are 2 hrs, 3.5 hrs and 7 hrs away.

Someone said on here recently that 50 is the new 30, well I am one of them
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I know its not a GSXR, but this is the only bike forum I really post on

Its done 1000km 2012 model. It will be a straight race bike, tracks are 2 hrs, 3.5 hrs and 7 hrs away.

Someone said on here recently that 50 is the new 30, well I am one of them



Nice gettin' back to your roots, mate!

Most of the tracks around my area are about 4-5 hours drive, but worth it!

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The next-generation Supersport race tire developed and manufactured in the USA to specifically meet the needs of American racers and sportbike riders.
MT Multi-Tread compound gives the D211 GP-A rear tire unparalleled grip, excellent drive out of corners and superior on-track handling.
Jointless Band (JLB) rear-tire construction reduces tire growth for cooler running and enhanced grip.
AMA Spec Tire chosen for the 2010 & 2011 racing season. Excellent Track Day tire.

Yeah, probably not any better than the Q tires.
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1. I didn't say the D211 GP-A wasn't "any better than the Q tires." I said "IMHO, probably not worth the extra money." Maybe I should have clarified and stated "not worth the extra money for my riding pace and without tire warmers."

2. Don't just read Dunlop's marketing department's product description. They make all of their tires sound pretty bad ass. I'm pretty convinced now that the all new Q3 is the best tire on the friggin' planet : )

"Meet the all-new Dunlop Sportmax Q3, the next-generation sport tire featuring Dunlop’s new Carbon Fiber Technology (CFT).
Dunlop’s Carbon Fiber Technology (CFT) uses carbon fiber reinforcement in the tire sidewalls for exceptional cornering performance and feel.
Aggressive new Q3 tread pattern uses fewer grooves that are longer in length to enhance wet-weather performance.
Intuitive Response Profile™ (IRP) technology in the rear tire allows greater latitude in line choice while cornering, plus amazingly linear steering.
MT Multi-Tread™ technology in the rear tire uses a tough, long-wearing compound in the center of the tread for excellent traction and longer tread life, plus special lateral grip compounds for outstanding grip.
New Q3 tire compounds were derived from road-race compounds to yield maximum sportbike performance.
The Dunlop Sportmax Q3 offers superb grip, stability, steering feel and longevity on the street and on the track.
Designed, tested and manufactured in America, the Sportmax Q3 sets new standards for high-performance sport tires."

3. Dunlop markets the D211 GP-A alongside the Q tires. They are a DOT tire, correct? They certainly aren't slicks. In any event, they are only incrementally better than the Q2.

4. The Q3 has the latest and greatest technology and R&D behind it. The D211 GP-A is a few years old now. I'm sure the technology advancements have narrowed the gap between the Q tires and D211 GP-A. Again, I'm not saying the D211 GP-A isn't ANY better... But even Dunlop sees some overlap. See pic and website. http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/tire...trackday-race/


5. I know what I'm talking about. I WON track day on Sunday, trophy and everything. I'd like to give a shout out to my pit crew, especially the 4 or 5 guys that are constantly fine tuning my suspension. Thanks to my personal shopper, I also looked fantastic in my Rossi replica suit and helmet.


6. I'm not taking tire advice from a guy whose first name is Slow. That would be like purchasing internet access from a tortoise. We all know that is a terrible idea. In English, "slow" is the opposite of "fast." The goal is to go fast on the race track. If you want to give out tire advice, maybe you should become "faststeve" or "turbosteve" or "quicksteve." Just sayin'

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8. Regarding points 5 & 6... Copious amounts of sarcasm intended.

9. Regarding point 7, just kidding

10. Thanks for adding to the thread. I hope it takes off. It should be a fun discussion.
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Referencing #1
I don't doubt the Q3s are awesome tires. I ran some Q2s [on the street] when they first came out. Great tire!
Just not agreeing with the "I think the GPA is more of a "track day" tire."

Referencing #3:
If you go to Dunlop Race Tire Services product page, they only list race tires, not track day tires/high perfomance street tires.
Only incrementally better than the Q2/Q3?

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I obviously depends on how fast or in my case, how slow, one goes. Also see #3.

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Once, I almost went fast at a track day.
That said, slow is relative to who shows up that day.

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I'm with Steve in this thing. There's no comparison between a full on race tire (D211GP) and a street tire (Q2/Q3).
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I don't doubt the Q3s are awesome tires. I ran some Q2s [on the street] when they first came out. Great tire!
Just not agreeing with the "I think the GPA is more of a "track day" tire."

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If you go to Dunlop Race Tire Services product page, they only list race tires, not track day tires/high perfomance street tires.
Only incrementally better than the Q2/Q3?

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I obviously depends on how fast or in my case, how slow, one goes. Also see #3.

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Once, I almost went fast at a track day.
That said, slow is relative to who shows up that day.
Whatever... Track day, AMA Spec = same difference

You didn't respond to all of my counter-points. Clearly, I win. This feels great. First, I win track day. Now this! Maybe I'll win the race bike from STG next.

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I'm with Steve in this thing. There's no comparison between a full on race tire (D211GP) and a street tire (Q2/Q3).
Great, now I've got two "Pro Racers" disagreeing with me. Didn't you hear that I WON track day?!?!

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Whatever... Track day, AMA Spec = same difference

You didn't respond to all of my counter-points. Clearly, I win. This feels great. First, I win track day. Now this! Maybe I'll win the race bike from STG next.
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Great, now I've got two "Pro Racers" disagreeing with me. Didn't you hear that I WON track day?!?!
Nope...now you have 3, because I'm winning the STG giveaway bike

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Just booked a track day at The Ridge Motorsports Park in Washington.
Anyone been to this track? It will be the first time up there for me.

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Just booked a track day at The Ridge Motorsports Park in Washington.
Anyone been to this track? It will be the first time up there for me.
Never been there but I've seen some videos. It looks like a fun, fast amd scenic track. I would love to ride there. I guess the only issue would be the number of rainy days in Washington. I hope you get good weather.


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I watched a bunch of those video's last night. Looks to be a blast.
New tires, brake pads, and oil/filter change today. Should be EPIC!!!

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New tires, brake pads, and oil/filter change today. Should be EPIC!!!
Which tires did you go with?

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Just booked a track day at The Ridge Motorsports Park in Washington.
Anyone been to this track? It will be the first time up there for me.

That track looks very nice! Lots of run off, a long front straight, elevation changes. I especially liked the downhill esses!

Do you have a Hero 3 Black or Silver? Wifi us in on your track day!

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That track looks very nice! Lots of run off, a long front straight, elevation changes. I especially liked the downhill esses!

Do you have a Hero 3 Black or Silver? Wifi us in on your track day!

Hero HD 1st Generation. Will be running all day.
Down hill cork screw in turns 13, 14, and 15 looks to be a blast. I love me some left turns

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I went to the local club meeting yesterday. Joined the club, now have a licence application signed and played flag marshal for the day.

Flag marshal is a great spectator spot, this track is small so close enough on one hair pin to see the rear tire flexing when bikes power out of the corner.

Its also good to study at length peoples riding style and BP etc.

Often there are threads about chicken strips on tyres with some, not all, people believing they equate to a good?/fast? rider.

I have known for a long time but it was plain to see yesterday.

If you have good tyres that are up to temp you can use all your tyre without going fast, or having good style.

if you get the chance to flag marshal I recommend it. Take ear plugs, and dont drink to much coke and coffee at lunch. It was a long afternoon without a pee

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I went to the local club meeting yesterday. Joined the club, now have a licence application signed and played flag marshal for the day.

Flag marshal is a great spectator spot, this track is small so close enough on one hair pin to see the rear tire flexing when bikes power out of the corner.

Its also good to study at length peoples riding style and BP etc.

Often there are threads about chicken strips on tyres with some, not all, people believing they equate to a good?/fast? rider.


I have known for a long time but it was plain to see yesterday.

If you have good tyres that are up to temp you can use all your tyre without going fast, or having good style.

if you get the chance to flag marshal I recommend it. Take ear plugs, and dont drink to much coke and coffee at lunch. It was a long afternoon without a pee
At the end of the day, it all boils down to lap times.

Gotta love the corner workers. Thankless job, but they deserve a round!

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Wink Chicken stips

Chicken stips are quite yummy with a dipping sauce......oops
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I have seen many a rider with horrible BP and they are using
All of their rear tire even a 190. They don't get off the seat at
All and lean with the bike or have their knee on the ground and
Their head across facing the other direction. We call this the "ghetto
Lean". Both styles are wrong BUT they have no chicken strips.
We all have different body types and are different heights. So we
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My point is not all chicken strips are created equal, some are better
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At the end of the day, it all boils down to lap times.

Gotta love the corner workers. Thankless job, but they deserve a round!
Speaking of corner works I see occasionally an ad to be a cornerworker. Who actually hires the corner worker? Is there training? And how much do they get paid?

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Speaking of corner works I see occasionally an ad to be a cornerworker. Who actually hires the corner worker? Is there training? And how much do they get paid?
I have just joined the club and went to the club meet, for these types of meets its just volunteer work. The club track needs 5 marshals to run a race. Only two flags are used, pretty basic but essential, no ticket needed.

I have seen adds for courses for marshals so at a higher level meet, or commercial venture / track day? they may need qualified people.

I have no idea of pay.

But no marshals no race!.

The track the club uses is a commercial go kart centre track, they hire it for club days. I was told by a club official is that if the track is not hired for the day you can pay $60 for the day and use the track. So severely lacking riding skills, once I have my race bike I will be able to spend a day on the track trying to learn to ride again.

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All week the weather was showing good for Sunday now a revised forecast shows 50% chance of rain.

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Ok gents. Here's a question for ya.

What's the best way to go after an off camber turn?

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This was my first track day and I'm going back in September. I don't know how clear the pic is but it shows the elevation changes. Turn 9 is off camber. The majority of the track I stayed in 2nd gear and maybe 3rd for the short straights. It's just over 3 miles long if that gives you an idea.

The apex cones are a great tool and helped a ton. So what are some tips for off camber corners?

http://youtu.be/71Kq02P-Vws

2:13 is the apex of turn 9 if that helps...and we were going counter clockwise that day

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Not sure how to link the video, but just YouTube "Benny Solis 2 lap chuckwalla". The lap record holder should be able to help ya out.

Looking at it counter clockwise, what I saw people doing were entering 9 wide, because the farther out you go from the Apex the flatter it is, and then standing it up more to take the corner and apex.

Edit: just watched Benny's video again looking specifically for 9. He just takes the Apex. Either way, that doesn't change the fact that what I saw, an what I think may be easier is to stay wide entering, and stand the bike up through it if you want to be safe. If you wanna be fast, be Benny :P

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Ok gents. Here's a question for ya.

What's the best way to go after an off camber turn?

http://youtu.be/71Kq02P-Vws

2:13 is the apex of turn 9 if that helps...and we were going counter clockwise that day
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Usually off camber turns are a downhill blind left or right.

Like most turns, you need to set up before you get there. With off camber, I over exaggerate how I normally would take a corner. I really load up the outside peg. This will make the bike feel straight up and down, but it will have a slight angle. You want the bike on as much fat of the tire as possible. Hang off as much as you can. Then just take it.

I may be wrong in my advice, but this works for me. As a disclaimer..... Ive never been instructed or taken any schools. I just do what feels natural given the bike feedback. I usually just do it.

Typically off camber turns are the most common, and favorite place for me to pass.

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