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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-13-2017, 05:12 PM Thread Starter
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stock sv650 vs gsxr600 for track??

Hey guys whats up im lookin into getting myself my first street bike so i can start hitting the tracks. A little background about me, i've been racing motocross for the past 13 years and im 17 years old @ 5'4 & 120 pounds i've sat on a few bikes at my dealer and the 600's didn't feel to heavy and i actually fit better then i expected. I've never had a problem with riding/racing bikes that are a little big for me, i would ride a yz85 and race my 65's when i was about 6 years old and i've been on a 125's for the past couple of years but i just free ride now.

because the sport of motocross is just so dangerous and in the end to me it seemed like a "make it or break it" situation and since i wasn't the most consistent rider it seemed more like a break it situation. but most of my crashes have been in the air so that's kind of where racing street bikes comes into play. I know the smarter decision is to get an sv650 and get the feel for leaning the bike over and the extra 150 pounds or so. But everyone has told me i will most likely need to swap forks and a new suspension set up but to me that seems like a lot of work if im only gonna have this bike for maybe 3-4 months and then switch over to a 600.

So basically my question is, Do you guys really think its necessary to set up the SV first before it hits the track? or considering my experience should i just jump to the 600 and take it easy the first couple of months just driving around town? The torque on the 600 doesn't necessarily scare me, but it seems fairly easy to get to much of a handful. Im just assuming the throttle on street bikes is as easy to twist as dirt bikes. Any help/tips would me much appreciated !!
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-13-2017, 05:38 PM
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The SV650 is an excellent bike. Why do you think you'd only keep one for 3-4 months?

If I were you, I'd get the SV650. The 600 is as you say easy to grab too much throttle on, and when that happens there is no room for error. It can and will bite your a$$ quickly. The SV will be more forgiving but still a total blast to ride, even on the track.

Regardless of what bike you get, the suspension would need to be setup for you at some point.


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Thanks for the quick response! we've always had to play around with the suspension at some point especially with my 125's. But do you think i could get away with hitting tracks on stock forks? Also will i have any issues scraping in the turns? the only reason i would jump to the 600 after a few months is because i know i'll want more grunt after a little while and i just love the look,sound,and power the 600's have. But I might just end up keeping the SV as a cruiser and get a 600 as the race bike.
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Hi. I will say based on reading what you said, you're used to strong acceleration and a front wheel that comes up, so go for the 600..

I am used to a lot of power, so being on a 600 feels very slow to me but I love my R6 race bike because it has a short throttle vs the Suzuki throttles. I basically am almost upright out of every turn and then just whack it wide open and leave it like that until I hit the next braking zone.

So I'm not saying you don't get surprised by a 600 but you're not exactly new to the game. The 650 twins are high on torque but you hardly feel it coz the bikes are so slow. That being said they help you work more on corner entry speed, lean angle and very late braking.

As for your question regarding standard forks. My race bike has standard forks up front. Setting is more important than having an Ohlins name unless you going to really be out there for a while like 30 minutes and heat the oil up. I do have an Ohlins rear and it makes setup very nice vs stock. I didn't put it in and wouldn't at my level go buy one.
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post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-15-2017, 08:44 AM
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I know this is gsxr.com but I recommend

KTM RC390

I owned one, great great bike especially for first time track riders.

Its well under 400lbs wet, rocking well over 40hp, and will do over 100mph easy.

Perfect bike, especially if you plan on going bigger after some time under your belt, to start on.
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post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-15-2017, 08:51 AM
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OEM SV suspension you'll want to upgrade with at least cartridge emulators. Once sorted though, the SV is a ton of fun on the track. Two very different beasts between the 600 and the SV.

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post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-15-2017, 08:54 PM
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You don't sound ready for a 600. Once you sort the suspension, you can ride that SV650 for a LONG time before you get close to reaching the potential of the chassis. They're very flickable, and the upside is that you won't get yourself into trouble because of the top speed and acceleration.

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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-16-2017, 09:09 AM
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I'm finding everyone's difference of opinion very interesting....

From the OP's post, it sounds like you've got a fair bit of seat time on a bike that's fairly quick, so I don't think the power of the 600 will be that tough to get used to. On the other hand, the SV is a GREAT bike for learning the basics of cornering and carrying speed. 1st and 2nd gen SV's can be found for really cheap, even with a handful of suspension upgrades already performed. If you're okay with changing bikes in a few months, that's the direction I'd recommend.
Otherwise, an older 600 (2003 ish?) could be a good bike to get started on as well.

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