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I think I'm out...

I watched my 4 year old get bucked off his dirt bike(ATGATT... full face, gloves, boots, pants, elbow pads, Jersey and neck guard. He got up crying but was not hurt). Hit a hard bumpy spot pretty fast and bucked him high side aND landed face first.. got some dirt in his mouth but like I said he was ok.

Anyway, I don't think I want a supersport anymore. Risk analysis perception and all.. the bike is just far too easy to be dangerous on, it's more fun to be slightly(understated, grossly lol) aggressive and I don't want the ability to have that option.

I found a 1982 Suzuki gs750t in great condition. 13k miles, 1 owner. Runs smooth and looks pretty good for a 34 year old bike. He will trade me plus 1500$ cash. I am seriously considering it given the mental image of a high side in real life.... I know riding a bike still has the dangers such as these but I won't be on a supersport that goes 140 at the flick of the wrist lol

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I'm not sure about drawing parallels between yourself and a 4 year old. Beyond that. If you put your kid in MX. He is going to crash and he is going to get hurt. It's just part of the sport.

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It's interesting how we will rationalize our decisions.

Going from your bike to an old 750, or really any other motorcycle, will make minimal difference in your risk factors.

The old timers have a saying about the Piper Cub airplane, "It's just fast enough to kill you".

Now if you said you were giving up street riding all together then you would have a point. Of course, your son's experience shows you can screw yourself up pretty good off road also. Or riding an ATV, skiing, surfing, .......... fill in the blank.

Your son's highside bears little relationship to a highside on a sport bike. Too much lean and too much throttle will do it on any bike.

Of course if you're not comfortable on the GSXR, get something you are comfortable on. There are lots of great bikes out there. Considering all the traffic you have where you are, a more upright (standard or naked) bike would be great. GSX-S 750?

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It's interesting how we will rationalize our decisions.

Going from your bike to an old 750, or really any other motorcycle, will make minimal difference in your risk factors.

The old timers have a saying about the Piper Cub airplane, "It's just fast enough to kill you".

Now if you said you were giving up street riding all together then you would have a point. Of course, your son's experience shows you can screw yourself up pretty good off road also. Or riding an ATV, skiing, surfing, .......... fill in the blank.

Your son's highside bears little relationship to a highside on a sport bike. Too much lean and too much throttle will do it on any bike.

Of course if you're not comfortable on the GSXR, get something you are comfortable on. There are lots of great bikes out there. Considering all the traffic you have where you are, a more upright (standard or naked) bike would be great. GSX-S 750?
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I'm not sure about drawing parallels between yourself and a 4 year old. Beyond that. If you put your kid in MX. He is going to crash and he is going to get hurt. It's just part of the sport.
I'm not comfortable enough to keep trying to ride it like a supersport... I will always try and push the bike and I know I am not ready to keep increasing the risk....

As for drawing parallels... I know he will get hurt, he did a little bit and he isn't scared, he has been hurt before, and gets up and does it agsin... me on the other hand, I have too much to lose to have a bike that I feel like flying on... not to mention, the wife can't ride with me on my gsxr
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OK, had to look up that bike you're thinking on just to be sure.
And what is it you ride again, assuming it's some size of nice GIXR.

Either, you're OK with 'cruising' like this, I"d say Go for it.

However, I often see people with bike like there putting all sorts of aftermarket pipes, etc. to try and make there bikes more sporty, etc.
I put straight handlebars on many of my bikes like my '76 CB750, and my '83 GS1100ES.

I think you'd really miss the performance of your current GIXR.
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I've ridden sportbikes my whole life. I bought a Harley, it lasted about 6 months, then I sold it.
I couldn't live without a great handling bike.
It's like getting a brand new Cadillac and selling it to buy a 30 year old Cadillac. You sacrifice so much.

Everyone is different though. Whatever you decide it's good with me.

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If you're going to ride on two wheels, especially on public roads, then it doesn't matter what kind of bike you ride. They all have the same potential to get you killed. I don't do 140mph ever; just because I can doesn't mean I have to. I just enjoy supersports more than any other type of bike.

In the end, it's your choice what you ride, but I think your rationale is flawed.
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Am sorry but you will get a 82 and 1500 for your bike , man that sounds like a awesome deal for him . If you really feel that way then get a SV or at least get something built in 2000's

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IMO it would be less expensive to take a track day or riding lessons of some sort to learn what your bike can do and what you can do on it. The bike isn't the issue, you are. Your inexperience and lack of skill is what's scaring you. I've ridden for 42 years, owned 36 bikes and have 5 now, one for every mood and cannot imagine being without them. I feel safer on a bike than I do trapped in a cage. But if you are not comfortable and not willing to do what it takes to learn how to ride then it would be a good idea for you to stop riding all together, not just switch to a lesser bike with poor controls. If it is an issue of learning to ride without getting killed then buy a super moto where you have ultimate control over the bike, sit up tall and don't have the ability to travel at lightning speed. But what ever you do, do not instil your fear into your son. Let him grow up knowing the joy of riding whether is be the street or the dirt.


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It's always the ones that have fear that bothers me. Learn to ride respect ur craft and apply lessons learnt. If u cant get pass that hang it up move on. Instead ur looking at what a kid did due to lack of experience. I'm sure the parents knew the risks involved or at least they considered it.

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It's always the ones that have fear that bothers me. Learn to ride respect ur craft and apply lessons learnt. If u cant get pass that hang it up move on. Instead ur looking at what a kid did due to lack of experience. I'm sure the parents knew the risks involved or at least they considered it.

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I appreciate all the feedback from everyone... but it's not so much fear that's bringing a change. I know what I am capable of and I have always ridden safely and don't do a lot of dangerous scary riding. But as I get more comfortable I am realizing that I want to ride it more aggressively but with out training or time or money to do so, I don't want to push it in that manner. I love riding my gsxr but I tremendous respect for the bike and it's power and moving forward, I think it's time to slow down and let the little guy be the dangerous one lol
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I appreciate all the feedback from everyone... but it's not so much fear that's bringing a change. I know what I am capable of and I have always ridden safely and don't do a lot of dangerous scary riding. But as I get more comfortable I am realizing that I want to ride it more aggressively but with out training or time or money to do so, I don't want to push it in that manner. I love riding my gsxr but I tremendous respect for the bike and it's power and moving forward, I think it's time to slow down and let the little guy be the dangerous one lol


From your bio I see you've only been riding 4 months. That's nothing, and certainly nowhere near enough to even consider doing any dangerous scary riding as you put it.

I don't believe any of us would condone doing any dangerous scary riding whether on the street or track. Building our experience and skill is all about avoiding danger and the scare factor.

I say keep the bike but slow down. Use gentle paced rides to work on the skills such as those in twist of the wrist. Try and save some money and do a course such as CSS - you will learn so much in one day. I found even after a number of years of riding that that one day has totally changed my riding style. I now seem to have so much more time when riding the same roads even though my speed is the same.

Have you seen those races where a bike is bucking and kicking but once the rider falls off, the bike just settles and goes straight? The problem isn't the bike. It's the rider. The bike doesn't want to fall over.

Having a slower bike will give you a bigger safety margin for error regarding your inputs. That's why some countries have limits on what bikes you can ride when starting out. I would much rather have a modern small bike that handles and stops properly than an old bigger engined bike that's more of a handful.

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Let me ask this , what was your first bike and how long you been riding

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I had no idea you have only ridden for a few months. Sell that GSXR and buy an SV 650. You'll be much happier.

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He didn't say it , someone else said it . So asking too make sure
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It doesn't matter what bike you ride, there is always risks associated with riding. Push bike riders get knocked over, fall off and unfortunately get killed sometimes.

As my MSA instructor once told me, "the road is not a race track". If you are pushing your limits on a road used by other riders / drivers, then you are irresponsible and a risk to yourself and others. It doesn't matter what bike your on. If you want to push yourself and bike, book a track day.

As others have mentioned, invest in training courses will make a huge difference.

Change your mindset and learn to appreciate the ride, scenery and destination and this can be done safely doing the speed limit.
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You need to get real with yourself, you point out seeing a 4 year old highside, and its stuck in your head.... then you counter argue with Pred that it's not fear..... you're lying to yourself.



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You need to get real with yourself, you point out seeing a 4 year old highside, and its stuck in your head.... then you counter argue with Pred that it's not fear..... you're lying to yourself.



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Saving pic now lol.........I like that. That's why I said bye, 4months riding is not enough to gauge shit I'm over 10 yrs in and still learning. Good luck. 5 yrs ago at the dealership a 65 yr old rider came in to pick up up a brand new gsxr 1000. I was amazed he still rode but all his friends quit riding and it's by far the most amazing experience he's had. Not a die hard racer but has always appreciated the performance. Man his passion was refreshing I see noobs looking for thrills but the real thrill has always been destination.

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My gsxr was my 3rd bike , but my first sportbike and it took me a good half a year to just feel comfortable on it

Even now when I don't ride it for a little it takes me a good 30 min to get used to how it works because it's so different then other bikes

With you only maybe having 4 months on a gsxr and your first bike you should be afraid you never learned how to ride just survived and now you are starting to see your mistake and see why people always said don't buy a sportbike for your first bike
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I've been riding for 25 years and had some close calls and spills. It hasn't stopped me from getting right back on. I love it too much.

Look, dude, if you're worried about pushing it too hard, here's an idea: stop pushing it. Just ride. If you're not on a track, then screwing around like that could very well get you killed. No one is making you ride to the limit. You make that choice. So don't do it. It's tempting, I know, but if you have even a shred of willpower, it's not that hard. Keep the GSXR if you enjoy it. Buying a different, slower bike will not stop you from doing stupid shit.

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OP- like I said earlier, if you'd prefer the more upright style of the 750- go for it.
I do understand that your first few posts mentioned about how you knew of the bikes great power (what is it you have again anyways?), and you were 'fearful' shall we say about what it can do, and what it can get you into on it.
I saw your point, while the other bike you mentioned still would be on the street, which is inherently dangerous, it doesn't accelerate as fast, etc.
*In my book, retro bikes like that are great to take to 'bike nights' and such also!

And has been said, (still not sure what bike you have, Yr/model/cc), but it does sound like he's getting a great deal.

Where are the picks of the bike you'll be trading for????
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Get a smaller bike like a KTM RC 390, they are a blast to ride and you will "feel" safer on them vs a supersport.

I rode my 1000 Sunday and then my KTM Monday on the same roads each for about 2 hours.

I actually rode my KTM faster through the twisties than I did my 1000, its just like a little knife carving through butter.

Its lighter and more nimble offering me a higher sense of control and an overall "safer" feeling.
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I almost lost a leg in an accident about 2yrs ago would have changed my whole life but I healed up and got right back to it, can't let fear and what ifs take over your life. To this day I still LOVE riding and look forward to every chance I get to throw my bad leg over my bike and ride! my kids still want to ride even tho they saw what I went thru and I think that is due to the way I handled the situation and my determination to get back to it.

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Get a smaller bike like a KTM RC 390, they are a blast to ride and you will "feel" safer on them vs a supersport.

I rode my 1000 Sunday and then my KTM Monday on the same roads each for about 2 hours.

I actually rode my KTM faster through the twisties than I did my 1000, its just like a little knife carving through butter.

Its lighter and more nimble offering me a higher sense of control and an overall "safer" feeling.
I'd love to have one of those little 390's
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Get a smaller bike like a KTM RC 390, they are a blast to ride and you will "feel" safer on them vs a supersport.

I rode my 1000 Sunday and then my KTM Monday on the same roads each for about 2 hours.

I actually rode my KTM faster through the twisties than I did my 1000, its just like a little knife carving through butter.

Its lighter and more nimble offering me a higher sense of control and an overall "safer" feeling.
I've heard that about the RC390. I demoed the Duke 390 last year and everyone said the RC390 was significantly different. I have yet to ride one.

A friend was at the KTM demo day a couple of months ago and rode pretty much everything. At the end of the day he said "If they offered me any of these bikes, I'd take the RC390".
This is from a guy that has had lots of bikes, has been riding an L2 750 he bought new and was looking to buy a new ZX10.

A month later he had an RC390 and loves it. We are in an area where it really shines. For the price, he's keeping the 750 and RC390.

I know the area where pmhearns lives and I don't think I'd be happy on a sportbike either. It is just miles of traffic and stop lights. Any half way decent roads (river road) is 25-30 mph, speed bumps, and bicyclists. If you do ride the 20 miles to get to quieter roads, they are straight for miles.
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I've heard that about the RC390. I demoed the Duke 390 last year and everyone said the RC390 was significantly different. I have yet to ride one.

A friend was at the KTM demo day a couple of months ago and rode pretty much everything. At the end of the day he said "If they offered me any of these bikes, I'd take the RC390".
This is from a guy that has had lots of bikes, has been riding an L2 750 he bought new and was looking to buy a new ZX10.

A month later he had an RC390 and loves it. We are in an area where it really shines. For the price, he's keeping the 750 and RC390.

I know the area where pmhearns lives and I don't think I'd be happy on a sportbike either. It is just miles of traffic and stop lights. Any half way decent roads (river road) is 25-30 mph, speed bumps, and bicyclists. If you do ride the 20 miles to get to quieter roads, they are straight for miles.
The only thing you have to watch with these bikes is the shit build quality.

Not the quality of the components but the quality of how they were put together.

Built in India and QC there is not so good.

Lots of issues from owners on shit falling apart, blowing gaskets, kick stands falling apart, even a few clutches coming apart.

Good news is if you take the time to pretty much go over the bike yourself and torque everything down again the bike should be good to go.

As for pure fun to ride? Not much compares. The damn thing is sooooooooooooooooo light and makes >40hp.
It just dominates anything else in its class right now (Yamaha R3, Ninja 300, Honda CBR300R).

But there are supposed to be some new bikes coming this year to maybe give the KTM some better competition. New baby gixxer, new cbr.
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Get a supermoto.
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Do what you feel is right, no shame in switching bikes or giving up riding altogether if it helps you sleep at night. I've been saddled with the guilt and worry about being a dad on a super sport since I got one... but I minimize risk with gear, vigilance and smart riding. Doesn't mean my risk isn't way higher though.

Going to a tamer bike is not an illogical choice, but it obviously only minimizes your risk by a small amount, the biggest risk is being on a bike on the road.

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By Type of Motorcycle: According to a 2007 report from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), riders of “super sports” motorcycles have driver death rates per 10,000 registered vehicles nearly four times higher than those for drivers of other types of motorcycles. Super sports can reach speeds of up to 190 mph. The light-weight bikes, built for racing, are modified for street use and are popular with riders under the age of 30. In 2005 these bikes registered 22.5 driver deaths per 10,000 registered vehicles, compared with 10.7 deaths for other sport models. Standards and cruisers, and touring bikes (with upright handlebars) have rates of 5.7 and 6.5, respectively, per 10,000 vehicles. In 2005 super sports accounted for 9 percent of registrations, and standards and cruisers made up 51 percent of registrations. Among fatally injured drivers, the IIHS says that drivers of super sports were the youngest—with an average age of 27. Touring motorcycle drivers were the oldest, 51 years old. Fatally injured drivers of other sports models were 34, on average; standard and cruiser drivers were 44 years old. Speeding and driver error were bigger factors in super sport and sport fatal crashes. Speed was cited in 57 percent of super sport fatal crashes in 2005 and in 46 percent for sport model riders. Speed was a factor in 27 percent of fatal crashes of cruisers and standards and 22 percent of touring models.
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Buy the other, and keep the sport bike. See witch one gathers dust, and sell it.
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Do what you feel is right, no shame in switching bikes or giving up riding altogether if it helps you sleep at night. I've been saddled with the guilt and worry about being a dad on a super sport since I got one... but I minimize risk with gear, vigilance and smart riding. Doesn't mean my risk isn't way higher though.

Going to a tamer bike is not an illogical choice, but it obviously only minimizes your risk by a small amount, the biggest risk is being on a bike on the road.



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Wow, I knew I was older than just about anyone I had seen on a sport bike, I"m over double the average age! Don't know, still like the thrill- which is kinda the issue with the OP.
Funny how being off bikes for many years- I went back to Sport Bikes.
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I feel much safer on a supersport than any other type of bike I've ridden (I've ridden a bunch). The increased performance in all categories makes me feel more in control.

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I feel much safer on a supersport than any other type of bike I've ridden (I've ridden a bunch). The increased performance in all categories makes me feel more in control.
I agree with you on this one.

Rode some cruisers and did not feel safe at all.

Shit brakes, no slipper clutch, hard to turn, heavy, etc...
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As a father of three I understand you 100%. It is almost impossible for a responsible father to not share your feelings when something happens to you that makes you question if you will be there to see them grow, raise them and support them. Everyone understands you.

When I opened my eyes after crashing my bike last
summer and looked up at the sky, realizing I was
still alive and had movement in my arms and legs, the first thoughts that came "racing" through my head were my three kids. Then after seeing the mess I created after sliding on the asphalt at 90mph I realized that if I had crashed on the street and not at the track, I would have probably been dead. The track is by far the safest venue to practice our passion (I'm 53 on my 12th bike).

My two cents to you: do whatever you are most comfortable with. Change bikes if you like but don't kid yourself, any bike will get you killed, even at 20mph. It's usually what you hit that does you in. And there is plenty to hit on the street. ALWAYS ride conservatively on the street.

I, for one, will be rebuilding my 750 and heading back to the track where I feel safer. I will teach my kids to respect all motorcycles and let them decide if they want to ride one day. I will teach them to expect every driver will cut them off and remind them that it is the element of fear that will keep you sharp on the street. Get too cocky and you will get bitten!

Do whatever makes you sleep comfortably at night. And teach your kids to be responsible always-especially when involved in high risk sports.


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When I was 30 years old, I got an '03 R6 brand new. I rode that thing everywhere. I mean, whenever I had a chance, any reason to get on it, I did. 9K miles in the first season alone. My ex-wife got pregnant 3 months after delivery of the bike, so I was thinking I might end up having to sell it, but I was determined to wring out every mile I could. I was out one night with a large pack of bikes (35+) and they decided (at 11PM) they were going to run the freeway around the entire city. Most of them were on litre bikes so I was playing catch up a lot. At one point, we were out in the stix, and I looked down and realized that I was going 165mph registered just trying to keep up. The second I saw that, I sat up (the wind almost tore me off the bike), slowed down, and went home. I wasn't scared for myself. I was thinking about what a single deer could do and how my baby would be without a dad.

I get it. I understand the fear. But at some point you have to realize that shit can happen at any time, for any reason. That's not to say motorcycles aren't dangerous, or that you shouldn't minimize risk whereever possible. But you can't live your life waiting to get killed by something. You do the best you can and hope it all works out in your favor. More often than not, it does. I bought life insurance and I always wear my gear. It's a compromise so that I can do what I want and still make sure my family is taken care of in the event something should happen. Don't take life so seriously. No one gets out alive.

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I agree with you on this one.

Rode some cruisers and did not feel safe at all.

Shit brakes, no slipper clutch, hard to turn, heavy, etc...
Have to disagree here a little , I ride a cruiser right now and I rather ride it around town then the gsxr the only thing you are right about is a slipper clutch but not all sportbikes have that either
But op we understand you saw the fear and now it's up to you make the decision , just don't kid yourself about it

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As a father of three I understand you 100%. It is almost impossible for a responsible father to not share your feelings when something happens to you that makes you question if you will be there to see them grow, raise them and support them. Everyone understands you.

When I opened my eyes after crashing my bike last
summer and looked up at the sky, realizing I was
still alive and had movement in my arms and legs, the first thoughts that came "racing" through my head were my three kids. Then after seeing the mess I created after sliding on the asphalt at 90mph I realized that if I had crashed on the street and not at the track, I would have probably been dead. The track is by far the safest venue to practice our passion (I'm 53 on my 12th bike).

My two cents to you: do whatever you are most comfortable with. Change bikes if you like but don't kid yourself, any bike will get you killed, even at 20mph. It's usually what you hit that does you in. And there is plenty to hit on the street. ALWAYS ride conservatively on the street.

I, for one, will be rebuilding my 750 and heading back to the track where I feel safer. I will teach my kids to respect all motorcycles and let them decide if they want to ride one day. I will teach them to expect every driver will cut them off and remind them that it is the element of fear that will keep you sharp on the street. Get too cocky and you will get bitten!

Do whatever makes you sleep comfortably at night. And teach your kids to be responsible always-especially when involved in high risk sports.


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I have to agree 100% the track is much safer. (And more addictive)

I'm 40 and race the lightweight classes. Even with a petty 70hp a highside can happen and I proved that this summer. Fractured a vertebrae and 2 metatarsals.

I have a 3yr old (she loves watching) and one on the way, but that will not stop me from racing. Good medical insurance and life insurance is a must.

It all comes down to doing exactly what you want to do.

Track days and racing keep me from doing the dumb stuff on the street. It is almost like riding track drains that urge to ride irresponsibly on the street.

Maybe consider riding more track days.

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