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I need help.. I have been riding for some time now but most of the bikes I had have been cruisers. Now I got my first serious bike and I want to be able to do the higher speed cornering. I have tried to corner my older bike, (suzuki GS500) until I layed it down in a slow corner. I hit some gravel and the back end kicked out. I wasnt hurt and the bike was fine. I picked it up and rolled on. I have gotten on bikes after that with no issue but when it comes to corners, I have always backed off the throttle. I need to learn to keep on the throttle and bring the bike to do what its built for.

For you that have dropped a bike in a corner, how did you ever get over that fear and bring the bike back to its normal thing.
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I went down a few years ago because I used too much throttle coming out of a corner.
I was really exiting hard.
It takes time but I don't think I'm still over it.

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Every get off I've had always affected me for awhile.

When I had my flat tire crash on the DR a couple of months ago I thought "No problem, I know what happened and it won't bother me". Well five weeks off the bikes recovering definitely created some doubts and when I did ride, yes, crashing was on my mind.

Personally, it's the confidence I have in my skills and road craft that allows me to go back at it. Plus I really like riding.

Lack of confidence causes doubt which can lead to incorrect responses when you need to respond. Confidence comes by practicing good skills and seat time.

Have you read Twist of the Wrist and/or watched the movie? It will help you identify your weak areas and suggest solutions.
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Don't push it on the street, do a trackday where it's safe. You'll learn more about yourself in a closed environment, you'll build confidence, in turn your skill will improve. You can then transfer that knowledge to the street.

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Twist of the wrist is good stuff. A couple of things I always do: Always look where you want to go, not where you don't, this takes practice. Get your braking done before the apex. Never push the limits on the street.

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It's human nature. Do something that invokes the survival instinct and you'll be more sensitive to it the next. You just have to think your way past that feeling. Easier said than done.
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I have low sided on the street and on the track. I shouldn't have been riding the way I was when I laid it down on the street. It takes a little time to get over the nerves afterwards, but you eventually do.

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The trick is taking the bad emotion out. Try to learn from your mistakes in a scientific way but forget the pain part.

I like to think of it like an NFL cornerback. He may get burned for a touchdown on one play but he still has to go back on the field and do his job. Hopefully he learns from it, but if he's too scared it's going to happen again, he's not going to be in the right mindset to execute properly the next time.
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My two cents... Training/education always helps. Continuous education, starting with basic riders school, advanced riders school every few years, basic track day school, different track schools, etc. Things slow down and things get easier after training. With good tires, these bikes stick like glue, and with good technique it feels great.
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You want to do high-speed cornering, go to the track. Period. Being a dumbass on the street is a good way to get yourself hurt or killed, and that won't do you or your family any good. The problem is that too many people try to go for the street-cred Ride Hard or Die nonsense, yet they have no idea what they're doing and the only reason they haven't crashed yet is sheer luck. They try to drag knee, they have no idea what they're doing, and they've accomplished nothing other than accrue a few scuffs on their knee pucks.

If you want to figure out what the bike is meant for, there are classes at tracks that are designed specifically to teach you the proper way to ride your motorcycle AND you don't have to worry about the intrinsically sporadic conditions of street roads. You won't develop bad habits and you'll be safer. The trick is to be smooth and consistent, and the speed will come with it.
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Don't push it on the street, do a trackday where it's safe. You'll learn more about yourself in a closed environment, you'll build confidence, in turn your skill will improve. You can then transfer that knowledge to the street.

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I need to find a track in my area then. I took the beginners bike safety course here in Pennsylvania but never took the advanced course. I really want to learn as much as possible and be safe at the same time.
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Depends where you are in PA, and how much traveling you're willing to do. PIRC is in PA. Summit Point is across the border in WV, NY safety track, and New Jersey Motorsports Park is also close to PA

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I'm in Hanover.

The closest is Summit Point, WV (less than 2 hours). You can go to Pitt (probably 4 hours from you), NJMP (3 hours from me), Pocono?? (not sure if anyone still runs there)
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Definitely get to the track soon Jespenshade12, you wont regret it. Just get ready for your new addiction.

Im bout to lose it. I cant wait till the next track day.
Got a couple things Im focused on working on and fixing.
Will have the paint work done and hopefully new wheels on soon.
I've been squirrel nut gathering parts lately.
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Definitely get to the track soon Jespenshade12, you wont regret it. Just get ready for your new addiction.


Racerxxx speaks the truth. The track is addictive :-)


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I'm in Hanover.

The closest is Summit Point, WV (less than 2 hours). You can go to Pitt (probably 4 hours from you), NJMP (3 hours from me), Pocono?? (not sure if anyone still runs there)
Im right across the river from Harrisburg. Not far from you at all.

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