harley>the official bike of the nhra

http://www.nhra.com/apcm/templates/news_template.asp?articleid=9884&zoneid=8... nothing say's american made like harley davidson :laughingr god help us......

the only reason that harleys are winning races in the NHRA is all the breaks the rules allow for them. They are running engines twice as large as the inline 4's are allowed, and they are also allowed to use fuelinjection as opposed to the inlines being limited only to carbs.... :thefinger :thefinger

the only reason that harleys are winning races in the NHRA is all the breaks the rules allow for them. They are running engines twice as large as the inline 4's are allowed, and they are also allowed to use fuelinjection as opposed to the inlines being limited only to carbs.... :thefinger :thefinger true,,and that's not all there getting,,,it's even worse then that........

And the huge weight breaks

:headshake

if hardley moving brought the cc's down to match the inlines you'd have to put them in the scooter class. :laughingr

Americans cant build anything worth half a shit. So the only way to win is to legally cheat. HAHA Its the "american way" Assholes.

Just for information - this years new rules allows ALL prostock motorcycles to use fuel injection. But the down side is the minimum weight has been changed again on the import bikes. :(

and the so called harley is still 1000cc bigger even after the added cc for the suzuki's.......

Americans cant build anything worth half a shit. So the only way to win is to legally cheat. HAHA Its the "american way" Assholes. Thats signature material right there!! :laughingr

Thats signature material right there!! :laughingr HAHA Your right, I just might do that!! Thanks. :laughingr :laughingr

Americans cant build anything worth half a shit. So the only way to win is to legally cheat. HAHA Its the "american way" Assholes. maybe with bikes, but you cant be sayin that for cars.....Ford GT? best supercar for the $ in the world, and thats not an opinion its a fact....but yea harleys blow ass, i hate em myself http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/zjmthree/fordgt.jpg yea um splooge? 0-60 3.3 seconds thanks-so-much

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: that's a bad M/F!!!!!!!

:rant: I want one! Ok maybe just a test drive.

:yumyum: :bowdown: :yumyum: If there was one for jacking off it would be there too. :lol:

maybe with bikes, but you cant be sayin that for cars.....Ford GT? best supercar for the $ in the world, and thats not an opinion its a fact....but yea harleys blow ass, i hate em myself yea um splooge? 0-60 3.3 seconds thanks-so-much the new corvette is faster in everything besdies on the track and even then its not much slower and they dont cost 100k

oh hell,now it's a ford vs chevy battle..i'll take the ford...the new corvette is a bad ass car tho,,and for the price much more realistic....but one thing is for sure harley's are pure junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as cars go; The Ford GT is a pretty bad ride but for 170K they can keep it! FOR THE MONEY a Z06 Vette kills it hands down. If you bought a Z06 Vette for 65K (that runs pretty equal to the GT for 1/3 price anyway) and put 3-5K in extras on it, then it would really smash a Ford GT to pieces. I raced cars (66ChevyII) for 2 years and if NHRA bike racing is anything like car racing all of these rules shouldn't mean too much since I assume it's bracket racing and not heads up right? (correct me if I'm wrong) I used to watch guys on MOPEDS (no shit!) race at the track and beat everyone since they only had one gear and their times were always right on the money. Everyone knows that you can make an inline jap bike kill a Harley. Rules like this should keep the times closer is all. That way we're not sitting at the end waiting for the Harley to catch up. :lol:

but one thing is for sure harley's are pure junk!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude new Harleys are not junk (flame suit on :lol: ). They may be slow, clunky, and WAAAAAAY overpriced but the newer stuff is pretty reliable stuff. My uncle has a Harley (98-99 maybe, I don't know) and it has 50 or 60 thousand miles on it and has been very reliable. Harley's are not my thing but I'm not gonna hate on someone that has one, as long as they're cool with my gixxer. :cool:

you put down any subject that a bike is judged on,,and a harley is dead last in every catagory,,they are junk,,alway's have been,,.....you should should come ride around here and see if you don't get the middle finger,just because your on a suzuki,,,harley guy's hate them..just because there a jap bike...i hate harley's for 1 reason,,THERE JUNK!!!!!!!!!!

you put down any subject that a bike is judged on,,and a harley is dead last in every catagory,,they are junk,,alway's have been,,.....you should should come ride around here and see if you don't get the middle finger,just because your on a suzuki,,,harley guy's hate them..just because there a jap bike...i hate harley's for 1 reason,,THERE JUNK!!!!!!!!!! VERY true from a performance standpoint. It's not fair to call something junk because you don't like it though. Most of us here I would consider to be motorcycle enthusiasts so we like a bike that performs well and gives us a thrill. Most guys that ride Harleys are trying to show off their money, going through midlife crisis, or who knows what??? That's their business. If you still think Harley is junk that's your opinion and I suppose you're entitled to it. I personally think Harley is total genius from a marketing/business standpoint. These guys are paying 25K for an inferior bike and I think it's funny that there is so much backorder (shows how stupid and rich most Americans are). As for the guys flipping you off, they're just whitetrash inbreeders that have no respect for anyone.......fuck em. Most Harley guys around here wave when they go by and I treat them with the same respect as they give me.

As far as cars go; The Ford GT is a pretty bad ride but for 170K they can keep it! FOR THE MONEY a Z06 Vette kills it hands down. If you bought a Z06 Vette for 65K (that runs pretty equal to the GT for 1/3 price anyway) and put 3-5K in extras on it, then it would really smash a Ford GT to pieces. I raced cars (66ChevyII) for 2 years and if NHRA bike racing is anything like car racing all of these rules shouldn't mean too much since I assume it's bracket racing and not heads up right? (correct me if I'm wrong) I used to watch guys on MOPEDS (no shit!) race at the track and beat everyone since they only had one gear and their times were always right on the money. Everyone knows that you can make an inline jap bike kill a Harley. Rules like this should keep the times closer is all. That way we're not sitting at the end waiting for the Harley to catch up. :lol: your wrong bud this is not bracket racing its all heads up thats why its so unfair.

your wrong bud this is not bracket racing its all heads up thats why its so unfair. Yeah, if it's heads up then that is a total crock of shit!

the new z06 does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds if im not mistakin...1/2 a second might seem little but thats a huge difference*...z06 is no supercar, ford GT is, so i stand with my statement for best supercar for the $. As for best sports car for the $, z06 could be winning, but thats a whole diff argument. *cars able to make it to 0-60 in 3.3seconds or less are as follows - Mclaren F1 (1 million$), Ferrari Enzo (650k$ [changin brake pads 30k]), bugatti veyron (1.5 million$), porsche GT (450k$ [best looking/myfavcar]), and lastly Ford GT (150k$)

The point I was trying to make is most of the cars you're describing are tuned to the max and don't really have a strong aftermarket for performance stuff. The corvette does and will. It is just a great pallet to begin with at 1/3 to 1/10th of the other cars you've mentioned. If you sink a few grand more into the Z06 it would be stomping the GT. A Corvette + 10 grand in mods = 75K and for 75K you have a car that kills the 165K Ford GT. What I was trying to say is the Ford GT is not what I would consider a "bargain" but it is one hell of a sweet machine and definetely more exotic than the Vette. :cool:

Oil leaking air compressors, that's all they are, lets see it take a corner... :laughingr

i think a vette with 100k in mods will do 0-60 in less the 3.3 secs. maybe its just me i would rather have a 1,000hp vette than a gt40 just my .02

The point I was trying to make is most of the cars you're describing are tuned to the max and don't really have a strong aftermarket for performance stuff. The corvette does and will. It is just a great pallet to begin with at 1/3 to 1/10th of the other cars you've mentioned. If you sink a few grand more into the Z06 it would be stomping the GT. A Corvette + 10 grand in mods = 75K and for 75K you have a car that kills the 165K Ford GT. What I was trying to say is the Ford GT is not what I would consider a "bargain" but it is one hell of a sweet machine and definetely more exotic than the Vette. :cool: i'd take the new z06 over the GT40 anyday! But I do believe the Z06 had a faster lap time. and 0-60 doesn't mean shit. I think the viper had a faster 0-60 time than the corvette but the corvette runs a faster qrt mile time.

Wanna talk about a vette? GHABBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Save about 50K and buy an '93 mustang cobra. Slap on a paxton or vortech s trim. Roughly 2500 dollars and you have just smoked the shit out of a hunk of shit vette. And you have saved your self about 40 thousand dollars. And you did not buy a re-call ready chevy. Dont get me wrong, I love chevy's. I just hate the vette, they are hidious. The mustang ,older ones, are sexy as hell. I am actually looking to buy one in the near future. My wife gave me the approval to get another "project" car. So look out!!! HAHAH Have most of it planed out now motor wise.

How a vehicle handles means more than its raw speed. Spend all you want on the engine/drivetrain, but if it can't hold a straight line let alone a corner you're not going anywhere. Just like with bikes. If you can out-corner everyone you'll likely win even if you're not as fast on the straightaways. To bring this back on topic... same with Hardleys, though they aren't even fast in the straights. =)

Does not take much to make a 'stang coner. I used to have one.

Does not take much to make a 'stang coner. I used to have one. thats hard to believe they weigh more than a dump truck :thumbup:

Wanna talk about a vette? GHABBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Save about 50K and buy an '93 mustang cobra. I might be pretty new to bikes but I know cars very well, you can't even put a 93 Cobra in the same class as an 06 Z06. :laughingr

I might be pretty new to bikes but I know cars very well, you can't even put a 93 Cobra in the same class as an 06 Z06. :laughingr +1 :clap:

Wanna talk about a vette? GHABBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Save about 50K and buy an '93 mustang cobra. Slap on a paxton or vortech s trim. Roughly 2500 dollars and you have just smoked the shit out of a hunk of shit vette. And you have saved your self about 40 thousand dollars. And you did not buy a re-call ready chevy. Dont get me wrong, I love chevy's. I just hate the vette, they are hidious. The mustang ,older ones, are sexy as hell. I am actually looking to buy one in the near future. My wife gave me the approval to get another "project" car. So look out!!! HAHAH Have most of it planed out now motor wise. Wick, The only problem with that it is still a Mustang... Sorry not much for mustangs. Its what i like to call the poormans sportscar. Every kid that gets a V6 mustang likes to think that its a ROUSCH or a Saleen....Its kinda like playing a song too much on the radio. I think they have over played them... But the 06's Stang GT's...... :bowdown:

I might be pretty new to bikes but I know cars very well, you can't even put a 93 Cobra in the same class as an 06 Z06. :laughingr :werd:

u know why harley riders don't wave at sport bike guys, they don't want to drop their tools :laughingr anyways i hope the zuks kick the sh*t out of the harleys this year in nhra :bowdown: suzuki :thumbup: harleys :2hard

u know why harley riders don't wave at sport bike guys, they don't want to drop their tools :laughingr anyways i hope the zuks kick the sh*t out of the harleys this year in nhra :bowdown: suzuki :thumbup: harleys :2hard good one :bowdown: i alway's give a wave,,but sometimes get a finger back...there's just pissed off cause there riding junk!!!!!!!!

there madcause they r riding an over priced peice of scrap metal that falls apart going down the road :laughingr

:bounce u know the difference betwen a harley and a vacum cleaner? the location of the dirtbag :funny: :funny: :laughingr :arsenal HARLEY DAVIDSON :2hard :2hard :bowdown: :bowdown: :clap: SUZUKI

:bounce u know the difference betwen a harley and a vacum cleaner? the location of the dirtbag :funny: :funny: :laughingr :arsenal HARLEY DAVIDSON : SUZUKI that one is so old but its still a good one :lol:

different strokes for different folks. My parent own two harley's, both 05, both fuel injection. there are no mechanical problems so far. Harly fixed the oil leaking problems. People buy cruisers to cruise, not corner hard, pop wheelies, stunt, etc. Harly has a name like Corvete, yes you pay for the name, but more people know the name Harley. I ride with all bikes, most al bikes wave. There have been quite a few people on sport bkes lately not waving. I agree that in the drags, things are one sided. But I think it is wrong to rag on someone because they are happy with what they are riding. to talk crap about them almost seems that you feel inferior to harleys..., have to build yourself up, tell yourself how much beter bike you have. People buy what they want, as long as it makes them happy, why does it matter. I LOVE MY GSXR TO DEATH, but i would like having a custum cruiser/harley too. different riding styles, and purpose.

to talk crap about them almost seems that you feel inferior to harleys..., have to build yourself up, tell yourself how much beter bike you have. :laughingr no just some people like to verbalize the truth rather than just think it thats all! :laughingr and the corvette comparrison wasn't the greatest, you're getting something thats almost worth it when buying a vette- yeah the price tag is a bit inflated and could stand a decrease but your getting some good "bang for the buck." Harley on the other hand.......... :laughingr you're buying nothing but the little sticker or plaque that says HD, no "bang", nothing special, nothing that could even kind of aruably justify the price tag but yet a lot of HD riders think they're on a platinum bar with wheels. There are some decent HD riders out there (I ride with some) but really for the most part they carry an attitude like they're on a cadallac- when in reality the only thing "cady like" about a harley is the the price tag. Thats the most comical thing- they're so confused, its almost like they sat in front of the mirror after taking out that loan for the bike or draining they're bank account and talked them selves up and had a 1 on 1 support group for making such a huge financial mistake that they start to believe themselves. :lol: ***I personally love how they ride the "made in America" line too :lol: ....ignorance is bliss I guess...

damn and I was gonna change my sig out of bordem today too.... :laughingr maybe I'll wait :2hard :lol:

Harly has a name like Corvete :funny: not even close...harley is still the biggest pile of junk on the road.......

Harley has a name like Corvette. Harley has a more known name than Suzuki, yahmaha, kawa,. People think every cruiser is a HD. just like most people think every sport bike is a ninja. I don't think they are worth the money, however my parents got good deals on both of theirs. and a vette is ust a vette, people are paying for all name, there is not 70 thousand or so dollars worth of value their. So if you want a cruiser with the most well known name, an HD is it. wheter you like it or not. Keep in mind you are comparring a cruiser to a sport bike, not really an apples to apples comparrison. HD, and hd designed bikes own the custum bike world. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. :)

Charles Manson is a well known name too :laughingr true there isn't 70k worth of value in a vette but at least there is some value, something a little unique ect Whats valuable about a harley? Nothing special and certainly nothing out of the ordinary. Ordinary pass over bike with an extraordinary price tag :thumbup:

Harley's definetely get sold for the name and are way over-inflated in price. Like Bink said if you don't want one, don't buy one! Obviously alot of people do want one and the demand is there. Another thing about people financing a Harley or being mad about it after they got it. That is so far from true. Everyone I know that has one loves it and they are all paid for in cash. The thing about Harley is that it's no longer a grubby trailer park guys bike..... it's a rich doctor or lawyers bike. People buy Harley to show off if you want my opinion about it. Kinda like buying and Escalade for 55K when you could have a Tahoe for 31K. The extra 20K says "I'm rich and you're not".

Harley's definetely get sold for the name and are way over-inflated in price. Like Bink said if you don't want one, don't buy one! Obviously alot of people do want one and the demand is there. Another thing about people financing a Harley or being mad about it after they got it. That is so far from true. Everyone I know that has one loves it and they are all paid for in cash. The thing about Harley is that it's no longer a grubby trailer park guys bike..... it's a rich doctor or lawyers bike. People buy Harley to show off if you want my opinion about it. Kinda like buying and Escalade for 55K when you could have a Tahoe for 31K. The extra 20K says "I'm rich and you're not".PEOPLE ARNT HAPPY WITH THIER PURCHASE THEY R HAPPY WITH THEIR NEW SOCIAL LIFE CAUSE IF U HAVE A HARLEY UR IN THE COOL CROWD. WELL I NEVER LIKED THE COOL CROWD I USUALLY BEAT THE HELL OUT OF THEM AND EVER SINCE DISCOVERY CHANNEL STARTED THE BIKER BUILD OFF THE HARLEY CRAZE HAS WENT TROUGH THE ROOF AND I PERSONALLY THINK IT IS A WASTE OF MONEY WHEN U CAN BUY A ROAD STAR FOR HALF THE MONEY PUT 5K IN ACCESORIES IN IT AND IT WILL LOOK AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN A HARLEY, AND IT WILL RUN ALOT LONGER TO

PEOPLE ARNT HAPPY WITH THIER PURCHASE THEY R HAPPY WITH THEIR NEW SOCIAL LIFE CAUSE IF U HAVE A HARLEY UR IN THE COOL CROWD. WELL I NEVER LIKED THE COOL CROWD I USUALLY BEAT THE HELL OUT OF THEM AND EVER SINCE DISCOVERY CHANNEL STARTED THE BIKER BUILD OFF THE HARLEY CRAZE HAS WENT TROUGH THE ROOF AND I PERSONALLY THINK IT IS A WASTE OF MONEY WHEN U CAN BUY A ROAD STAR FOR HALF THE MONEY PUT 5K IN ACCESORIES IN IT AND IT WILL LOOK AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN A HARLEY, AND IT WILL RUN ALOT LONGER TO true story... :popcorn:

IF U HAVE A HARLEY UR IN THE COOL CROWD. WELL I NEVER LIKED THE COOL CROWD I USUALLY BEAT THE HELL OUT OF THEM yeah, cause riding a sport bike isn't cool at all, it isn't like there are lots of young people getting them just to be cool. Harley does have some design issues, i admit that. the purposely put crappy port heads on the twinn cam 88, just to sell their scream n eagle line, plus other after market heads. there motors used to leak oil, this is not a problem with the new ones. a yahmah with 5000 dollars worth of add ons, just to try to look like a harley. My dads soft tail std was around 16,500, and my moms Dyna super glide was 13,500. Depending on where you get them, they are not that much more expensive. As far as run alot longer, that one you got me, my parents bikes don't have that many miles yet, dad has around 10000. But, why do you see peple selling old harleys for high prices, but no old yahmaha, honda, suzuki? May get more more miles out of metric, but can't sell the thing running for what you could get for a basket case harley. It's a name thing. Yahmaha is trying to copy so bad, I LMAO everytime I see the comercial, it shows these bikes, bits, only part of them, dark background. riding in a large pack. Then it reveals, THEY ARE YAHMAHa wanna be Harley's. Trying to show you that, you can be cool by riding your yahmah in a pack, like the old HD riders did. Its only funny to me because of the great lengths for a comparrison, but then at the dealers its like, no don't compare these to a HD, these metrics are better. So, for trying like hell to be better/different, they sure seem to be copying HD idealogy. I ride with everybody, I don't care what kind of bike it is. There are some stuck up HD peple, and Some stuck up Sportbike people, as well as stuck up metric cruiser people. Point is, don't judge some buddy by what they drive. Get to know the person. Both sides have there flaws, differences, and pluses. As long as the rider is happy, everything is safe, what does it matter.

good points I just never got why they hold value....let me correct myslef used to hold value (HD's been losing consistantly over the past 5yrs). Certainly they're not going out of business anytime soon but their margins are diminishing pretty consistantly now. Nobody is going to re-sell a Harley and retire anymore,unless there's a dumbass buyer they found :lol: - But anyway thats niether here nor there I just never really understood the price thats all, they're not unique or exotic nothing out of the ordinary thats my biggest hang up- they're just ordinary but people pay big $ for them I just can't make sense of it. :headscrat :lol:

HD killed there used market because they are selling new bikes for alot less than they used to. ME and my dad laugh at all the peolpe trying to sell there 3yr bike for what he paid for his new, or more. they got took when they buyed it. But, there are two sport bike dealers in our town, one selling yahmaha, suzuki, and honda, the other kawa. they both charge at least 1000, somtimes more like 2500 over msrp. Its a joke, cause I drove 2hrs away, and bought a new ZX10R for 9500 drive out. there are crappy dealers out there

HD killed there used market because they are selling new bikes for alot less than they used to. ME and my dad laugh at all the peolpe trying to sell there 3yr bike for what he paid for his new, or more. they got took when they buyed it. But, there are two sport bike dealers in our town, one selling yahmaha, suzuki, and honda, the other kawa. they both charge at least 1000, somtimes more like 2500 over msrp. Its a joke, cause I drove 2hrs away, and bought a new ZX10R for 9500 drive out. there are crappy dealers out there I hear ya there's a Honda dealer in my town here that had 600RR 04' trying to sell it for the msrp for an 05' and his justification was because it had a full exhaust, screen, HB undertail and somthing else. He had the mentality of a lot of private sellers who put money into their cars/bikes and think they're upping the value I was surprised to see that thought process in a dealer....or maybe not dealers sales tactics seem to be more and more off the wall everyday :laughingr

HD killed there used market because they are selling new bikes for alot less than they used to. ME and my dad laugh at all the peolpe trying to sell there 3yr bike for what he paid for his new, or more. they got took when they buyed it. But, there are two sport bike dealers in our town, one selling yahmaha, suzuki, and honda, the other kawa. they both charge at least 1000, somtimes more like 2500 over msrp. Its a joke, cause I drove 2hrs away, and bought a new ZX10R for 9500 drive out. there are crappy dealers out therewel the dealership i work at also sells yamaha,suzuki, honda, kawasaki and well sell a bounch of bikes under msrp all the time. where r u from :headscrat

Texas, specifically lufkin Texas. girlfrieds brother paid a little over 10,000 for an 50 GSXR 600. a friend paid around 11000 for a GSXR 600, with an solid black RF1000 shoei, minus the bag, nose gaurd, and chin gaurd, t had been seting in display case forver. I tried to get them to look else where, I guess a sucker is born every minute.

Texas, specifically lufkin Texas. girlfrieds brother paid a little over 10,000 for an 50 GSXR 600. a friend paid around 11000 for a GSXR 600, with an solid black RF1000 shoei, minus the bag, nose gaurd, and chin gaurd, t had been seting in display case forver. I tried to get them to look else where, I guess a sucker is born every minute. :laughingr thats priceless!!

the reason HD is the official sbike of nhra is because they have the most money in that program all the other manufactureers are tied up with the road race scene

Texas, specifically lufkin Texas. girlfrieds brother paid a little over 10,000 for an 50 GSXR 600. a friend paid around 11000 for a GSXR 600, with an solid black RF1000 shoei, minus the bag, nose gaurd, and chin gaurd, t had been seting in display case forver. I tried to get them to look else where, I guess a sucker is born every minute. Don't even get me started on dealers. I went to the dealer with my buddy and he's looking for a bike. We seen this bike http://www.midsouthmotoplex.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=08768427X2K13K2006J10I10I17JAMQ1790R0&veh=282987 and I was like, "will you guys take $2500 cash for that" the sales rep was like "your crazy". Then they had an 03 like mine for $6100 I was like " daaaaamn" He asked me what I payed for mine I told him $3800 cash, which is what I paid. Then he started dawging on it and telling me his Goldwing is way faster and blah blah blah. I know they have to make money but you really have to be hard up tp buy from a dealer....... or not have cash anmd need financing.

Did anybody read the new cycle world? The did a test on the Screamin eagle production Drag bike. I found it amusing and sad. Its $32,000 and ran a best in test of 9.78 @ 134. Wow, what a waste of time/money. Some body has went 9.20's,they said. I didnt really pay attention. Its bored so far out it has to be resleeved if/ when it wears out or blows up. Its striped down, nothing on it if you dont need it to go down the track and weighs 550 lbs. It makes 165 horsepower and 97 ft/lbs of torque. I thought it was ironic that it came out this month when this thread has been going on. They say alot of people have ordered them. It must be a matter of pride to spend that type of money to dip into the 9's. I really hope one shows up at my local track. I love out running slick and wheelie bar bikes, let alone one that cost the guy $30,000 plus. :rofl:

can you imagine someone would pay 32,000,, and it's not street legal..need's high octane to run....what's really funny is,true harley guy's hate the v-rod...they would never ride it,,it' doesn't sound like a giant lawnmower. :D

Dunno if its been posted or not... The GT-40 was the first american made car to win the Le Mans 24hr. This race was dominated by european manufacturers and Ford brought the trophy home for the red white and blue. Thats why it costs so damn much. Its not a production model car, at least i'm pretty sure its not. Either way, its probably one of the most historic american made cars ever built. Asside from Fords Model A perhaps.

my neighbor just bought an 883 harley anyway,,she lost her balance and drove down a hill beside her driveway,,,i went over to help her pick it up,,i almost burnt the clutch out of it trying to get back up a small hill,,my god,,what a pile of junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!