Very bad crash

I found this on another forum very bad crash....R.I.P. to the rider http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108282

R.I.P Didn't get to watch the vid don't know if I really want to but maybe it will keep my head on str8 when riding. But it's always sad to hear a brother/sister has gone down.

The vid is back up, if you go to the last page and 1 post from the last is where its at. Dude that sux cause it looked like the rider passed away cause he had no color in his face and also the passenegr in the car on the side where the bike hit, it looks like they were dead also. man that stinks.

has it been said whos fault that was yet.....thats just horrible :headshake

I think the car pulled out in front of the dude on the bike.

Someone in the other forum translated what the people where saying in the video... so sad

Does anyone know if this video is hosted anywhere?

Hey Buckwild750 I have the video of the crash on my other site. Let me know.

i cant find ths vid anywhere!!! any ideas?

i cant find ths vid anywhere!!! any ideas? I spent a while looking and gave up. Cobra brought me to a link and it is no longer hosted there either.

Is it the one that is in another country? Dude is laying near the curb and its about 7 min long? If its it then I saw it. Pretty bad.

yeah that wasn't a pleasent sight

where are you guys seeing this crash

where are you guys seeing this crash its not hosted anymore, unless someone saved it on their cpu and would be wiling to host it aagin.

Hey Cobra, how do I get to your other site which contains the "very bad crash" video clip? I have looked every where to see this, it's driving me "crazy". Thanx, Gixxerman

Cobra had given me the link. I think it was zzr.net. Don't waste your time, it is not hosted their either anymore. I have given up on the search.

It has to be out there still do not give up :thumbup:

Well, i was determined to find this crash, know it is an old post but i've drove by a very similar accident and the guy looked exactly they way he look on the curb, just lying there. Kinda sickening but, here is a link to the video http://24.221.29.243/video/videobikes/badr1accident.wmv

Dude, that is very disturbing, no wonder the vid was hard to find

Wow that was disturbing. Thanks for posting it. R.I.P. rider

kinda disturbing the way no one really bothered to help the injured. I mean they just kinda looked at the biker. every once in awhile they checked for a pulse on him and apparently got none. WELL, HELLO000 can you say CPR. I've been the first person on the scene of alot of wrecks, including a few bike crashes. If CPR is possible (no complete intrapment) then its a given that your going to aleast try it, even if it obvious that it is usless. Hope you guys would atleast try. And if you dont know CPR then I suggest taking a course. RIP

Yea that made me a bit nautious, but you would have to remove his helmet for CPR, which could cause further neck injury if hes still alive. Thats terrible, I wish they had a vid of the actual crash. Just a reminder of not so observative drivers out there ready to pull out in front of you. anyone know where this happened?

Yea that made me a bit nautious, but you would have to remove his helmet for CPR, which could cause further neck injury if hes still alive. Thats terrible, I wish they had a vid of the actual crash. Just a reminder of not so observative drivers out there ready to pull out in front of you. anyone know where this happened? I think it was like Belgium or something

but you would have to remove his helmet for CPR, which could cause further neck injury if hes still alive. I understand the whole thing about taking the helmet off possibly causing neck or spine injury. But if the guy is dead anyway then you have to weigh the pros and cons. Its either be alive and POSSIBLY be a paraplegic, or simply be dead. I believe I would rather someone take the chance on me, and go ahead and remove my helmet if I was already dead like this guy. Thats one of the first things your tought in First Aid. Its also a given, that your going to break ribs while doing chest compressions. But thats not a reason not to give them. The bottom line is, someone has no pulse and their not breathing then they are dead. It cant get any worse than dead. You have to remove their helmet and take the chance on causing further injury. If the person survives then its simply a price they had to pay for their survival. I totally understand what your saying, but hope everyone out there will understand my point. This could happen to one of your buddies while ridding or doing anything. You should think about these things ahead of time while you have a clear head. Therefore when it happens you will already know what to do. IF SOMEONE HAS NO PULSE AND IS NOT BREATHING, NEVER NOT DO CPR JUST BECAUSE YOUR AFFRAID OF HURTING THEM. THEY ARE ALREADY DEAD FOR CHRIST SAKES.

Good point. I wonder was the actual cause of death. broken neck, or Head or chest trauma? I would guess the closer to the car he is the worst his body hit. If he was like 200 feet from the car, it probably would have been less severe.

That's hard to watch. Fair winds and following seas rider...

I dunno about you, but I think I would rather die than end up a vegetable, then 5-10 years later be on the news as the next Terri schiavo. but hey, that might just be me. I think I would rather die, than be a nuisance and a waste of breath for whomever was taking care of me. plus I woldn't be able to ride anymore. but hey. maybe its just me.

HORRIBLE..BUT JUST AS BAD AS THE ACCIDENT WAS EVERYONE STANDING AROUND WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO DO SOMETHING....*damn caps*..sickening to watch clueless people in a time of need. they should feel terrible for their lack of humanity.

Now that I've seen the video, there can be an arguement either way. I'm also trained in CPR and also have first responder training (basically a shortened version of EMT training). They couldn't do anything more than what was being done. Taking care of and stabilizing any patient with a pulse is primary (assuming the lady in the car was still alive). The motorcycle rider with no pulse is considered DOI (dead on impact). I'm sure the front wheel torn off completely and stuck in the front of the car, forks ripped from yoke, and no tank or plastics, would be a good measure of speed and impact pressure. Which would mean he has massive internal rupturing of vital organs which will cause the body to shut down anyways. Meaning CPR would very temporarily start his heart, if at all, and could not sustain itself due to the massive blood loss flooding the body cavity itself. Not to mention the pressure that would be building on any other organs or brain swelling for that matter. I agree any effort to try and save someones life is a heroeic effort and thats what CPR is for. But it can't be used in every case. Pulling the helmet off is not a good idea at all. Chances are paramedics would leave it on the victim until he arrives in the hospital. R.I.P. - just a reminder for all of to be careful. The right time/the right place.

Now that I've seen the video, there can be an arguement either way. I'm also trained in CPR and also have first responder training (basically a shortened version of EMT training). They couldn't do anything more than what was being done. Taking care of and stabilizing any patient with a pulse is primary (assuming the lady in the car was still alive). The motorcycle rider with no pulse is considered DOI (dead on impact). I'm sure the front wheel torn off completely and stuck in the front of the car, forks ripped from yoke, and no tank or plastics, would be a good measure of speed and impact pressure. Which would mean he has massive internal rupturing of vital organs which will cause the body to shut down anyways. Meaning CPR would very temporarily start his heart, if at all, and could not sustain itself due to the massive blood loss flooding the body cavity itself. Not to mention the pressure that would be building on any other organs or brain swelling for that matter. I agree any effort to try and save someones life is a heroeic effort and thats what CPR is for. But it can't be used in every case. Pulling the helmet off is not a good idea at all. Chances are paramedics would leave it on the victim until he arrives in the hospital. R.I.P. - just a reminder for all of to be careful. The right time/the right place. So your telling me that you wouldnt do cpr because of your assumptions that the dude has massive internal injuries??? Dude, and your a EMT? You actually think that the paramedics would leave his helmet on? Dude, how can they possibly give the guy rescue breaths without taking the helmet off? So your telling me that due to your EMT assumptions the guy just simply is not going to get cpr from you? Also, have you ever heard of opening an airway? Bottomline you will have to tilt the head back to open the airway for breathing, and you will have to remove the helmet to give the breaths, or bag the guy. if you dont do this then they dude is DEAD no matter what. So why not try?

dude that is rough to see. Did you notice that his hands were blue heart must have stoped right after it happen. R.I.P

So your telling me that you wouldnt do cpr because of your assumptions that the dude has massive internal injuries??? Dude, and your a EMT? You actually think that the paramedics would leave his helmet on? Dude, how can they possibly give the guy rescue breaths without taking the helmet off? So your telling me that due to your EMT assumptions the guy just simply is not going to get cpr from you? Also, have you ever heard of opening an airway? Bottomline you will have to tilt the head back to open the airway for breathing, and you will have to remove the helmet to give the breaths, or bag the guy. if you dont do this then they dude is DEAD no matter what. So why not try? Read what I said fully! "based on what i seen on the video". Its not a question of him breathing! Have you tried to do CPR on someone when their lungs are collapsed due to a punctures or full of blood??? Try doing compressions on someone when thats the case and you let me know how it comes out, meanwhile the living person in the car has now gone into arrest. How are you gonna handle that? Now you have two dead people to revive!! :clap: Good luck :thumbup: , because chances are you won't get either back. Now do you see where I'm coming from :headscrat ? If he was the only one injured, then do what it takes to help him otherwise, let the paramedics arrive and take care of the dead guy and keep the living one alive.

[QUOTE=zombieman]You actually think that the paramedics would leave his helmet on? Dude, how can they possibly give the guy rescue breaths without taking the helmet off? One other thing. They would not take the helmet off due to possible head trauma. They take a "very high risk" of his brain swelling and causing major cranial pressure due to the release of the helmet keeping his skull from expanding. This is the same principle as putting pressure on a cut to keep it from bleeding as bad. They can handle response better at the hospital with the proper equipment and life support systems. You take that helmet off there in the street and that happens, how would you respond to that? These kind of decisions are hard to make. I understand your frustration and it's good that you would try to save anyone- that shows great valor, but sometimes you have to know when to say when, and help the ones that need you most.

They would not take the helmet off due to possible head trauma. They take a "very high risk" of his brain swelling and causing major cranial pressure due to the release of the helmet keeping his skull from expanding. This is the same principle as putting pressure on a cut to keep it from bleeding as bad. They can handle response better at the hospital with the proper equipment and life support systems. You take that helmet off there in the street and that happens, how would you respond to that? These kind of decisions are hard to make. I understand your frustration and it's good that you would try to save anyone- that shows great valor, but sometimes you have to know when to say when, and help the ones that need you most. So your saying if you have a motorcycle accident and your wearing a helmet, and for some reason or another you stop breathing, then your just outa luck, because "ohhh, he might have head tramma, dont remove his helmet so we can start rescue breathing". so your just not going to let him breath for the 15min. or so to the hospital, just because you think he might have head tramma? It doesnt matter if he has head tramma anyway man, if he doesnt get rescue breaths hes freaking brain dead anyway, if not completley dead! However, I do understand what your saying. But the only time you wouldnt take the helmet off in my opinion is if the guy was breathing.

thanks for posting the vid

That was UGLY............. I hate to see things like that........... I hope to never be part of a scene like that........... :headshake :headshake Please..............let us all be careful out there. God bless..............

Watching that video made me realize how aware we have to be out there. I actually got kinda sick in the stomach watching that. I couldn't imagine being his friend who was riding with him, how he must have felt watching him die like that. RIP fellow rider. Be safe all!