Buell race bike....Yeah right

Boss
03-21-2006, 11:13 AM
This is why Buell, needs to save thier money and quit trying to keep up with the Jap Bikes... Typical Harley....Pissing Oil

trixxergixxer
03-21-2006, 11:21 AM
I had a friend that just bought a buell and she was having some problems with it particularly it died on her after 10 minutes of riding so i told her to look at some forums on buell and we looked and every buell forum said "get rid of it now!!!" And at the top of the page daunted this logo "Buell motorcyles! Where will you break down today?" Not where will you break down in the near future or when will you break down....no they have it narrowed down to today.........how sad.. I was born in America and I do have some pride and I am embarased at harley's display of workmanship. I mean c-mon when you buy a new bike it really shouldnt come with an entire mac tool box to fix it with. I dont even understand why they try to stay so far behind the competition...oh well I have a suzuki and I am better for it.

you da man
03-21-2006, 11:25 AM
Harley's and Buells don't leak, they are just marking their territory. The Buell that raced at Daytona was supposed to be protested anyways

Tricky Dicky
03-21-2006, 12:02 PM
I had a friend that just bought a buell and she was having some problems with it particularly it died on her after 10 minutes of riding so i told her to look at some forums on buell and we looked and every buell forum said "get rid of it now!!!" And at the top of the page daunted this logo "Buell motorcyles! Where will you break down today?" Not where will you break down in the near future or when will you break down....no they have it narrowed down to today.........how sad.. I was born in America and I do have some pride and I am embarased at harley's display of workmanship. I mean c-mon when you buy a new bike it really shouldnt come with an entire mac tool box to fix it with. I dont even understand why they try to stay so far behind the competition...oh well I have a suzuki and I am better for it. You apparently did not look at the only two that are of any importance. Badweb.......Badweatherbikers UK Buell Enthuiasts Group.........UK BEG.

hal
03-21-2006, 12:50 PM
Buell's need love too :) From what I remember, none of the buell's that entered the Daytona finished. 3 teams were international. O'well, wonder if they are going to compete in the rest of the Formula extreme races this year.

trixxergixxer
03-21-2006, 12:59 PM
You apparently did not look at the only two that are of any importance. Badweb.......Badweatherbikers UK Buell Enthuiasts Group.........UK BEG. are you serious after that I didnt think I would waste much more of my time!!!!!!

Tricky Dicky
03-22-2006, 02:53 AM
You have already wasted your time if you did not look up these two.

Tricky Dicky
03-22-2006, 03:58 AM
As a matter of interest could you please list the Buell forums that you are talking about. It would be amusing to browse a web site dedicated to a certain model of motorcycle that advises owners with a problem to get rid of the bike that their site is dedicated to. Thanks in anticipation.

Maui
03-22-2006, 05:19 AM
Harleys have gotten better over the last 10 years... I still would not but a Buell

trixxergixxer
03-22-2006, 06:45 AM
http://www.mybuell.com/ http://www.concretecountry.com/ hows this for ya. Buells suck and that all you need to know period

GSXR-Rider
03-22-2006, 06:50 AM
Buell motorcyles Suck :2hard

gsxrace01
03-22-2006, 07:13 AM
http://www.mybuell.com/ http://www.concretecountry.com/ hows this for ya. Buells suck and that all you need to know perioddid you see how big the buell was,,i think it was over 1300cc running in the 600cc class,,,biggest problem they have now is,,they blow up before the race is finished

gsxrace01
03-22-2006, 07:22 AM
the buell xb12r ,,allowed to run in the ama formula xtreme class at 1350cc,,,vs the 600cc jap bikes,,,problem is,,the blow up before they finish the race,,,junk,,pure junk!!!!!!

Maui
03-22-2006, 07:57 AM
Long and short is that the Twins are allowed unlimited mods to compete with the I4s. Harleys are decent on the flat tracks, and at a time were the king of the ring. To be honest, it is nice having A AMERICAN company making sportbikes... Buell is not there yet, and they have to get rid of the "American Iron" Its a Harley attitude. There are more people like me who buy bikes for fit, performance, value, and the BADGE on the bike is one of the last thinks considered... And oh yeah... Maintenance track records count... [[ coming from a guy with an electrical issue on my gixxer... go figure ]]

gsxrace01
03-22-2006, 08:12 AM
sure,,it would be nice to be able to buy an american performance bike,,problem is,,there's not one,,the buell is a total joke,,i can't imagine who would buy one,,and then there's harley,,simply the biggest pile of junk out there!!!!!!!!Long and short is that the Twins are allowed unlimited mods to compete with the I4s. Harleys are decent on the flat tracks, and at a time were the king of the ring. To be honest, it is nice having A AMERICAN company making sportbikes... Buell is not there yet, and they have to get rid of the "American Iron" Its a Harley attitude. There are more people like me who buy bikes for fit, performance, value, and the BADGE on the bike is one of the last thinks considered... And oh yeah... Maintenance track records count... [[ coming from a guy with an electrical issue on my gixxer... go figure ]]

Maui
03-22-2006, 08:32 AM
sure,,it would be nice to be able to buy an american performance bike,,problem is,,there's not one,,the buell is a total joke,,i can't imagine who would buy one,,and then there's harley,,simply the biggest pile of junk out there!!!!!!!! I think a lot of people buy the Buell the same reason they buy the V-Rod. i really would like to see some Amercian Sportbikes. I considered a Buell for about 10 seconds... Just didn't like the look, fit and technology.

Tricky Dicky
03-22-2006, 08:45 AM
Those sites are concerned with the Buell Blast, they don,t import them into Europe, it seems they are used as learner bikes in the States. I am glad you keep those bikes to yourself.

Maui
03-22-2006, 10:05 AM
There is also the XB12R or what ever they call it. I sat on one once and felt like I was sitting over the front tires... Just did not like the fit

Tricky Dicky
03-22-2006, 10:56 AM
Yeah the XB12R has a rake angle of only 21 degrees, same ergos as a 250 Moto GP race bike. In a test of road bikes it was the fastest cornering bike of all time. The xb12s also holds the record for the longest rolling stoppie or endo as some might call it.

Maui
03-22-2006, 12:04 PM
Yeah the XB12R has a rake angle of only 21 degrees, same ergos as a 250 Moto GP race bike. In a test of road bikes it was the fastest cornering bike of all time. The xb12s also holds the record for the longest rolling stoppie or endo as some might call it. Maybe so... But there is something disconcerting when you look down over the front and you see pavement and not a front tire/cowl

Tricky Dicky
03-22-2006, 01:58 PM
I know exactly what you mean, you should take it for a test ride next time and see how it feels when you are on the move and have some corners coming up ahead.

Boss
03-22-2006, 02:06 PM
Might have seen this before...But it says it all

JesterGix
03-22-2006, 02:21 PM
The xb12s also holds the record for the longest rolling stoppie or endo as some might call it. You mean the rider, yeah ofcourse the bike also plays a part obviously but its more on the riders shoulders. Certainly nothing to praise buell or any bike for that matter. But I understand seems you're trying to save "face" for a "faceless" company...its all good. :thumbup:

Tricky Dicky
03-22-2006, 02:33 PM
It is not about Buell in particular, it could be any bike, it just amuses me when some people run down a certain brand they probably never had any experience of. But of course all those nay sayers must certainly have owned Buells as they seem to know so much about them.

JesterGix
03-22-2006, 02:48 PM
It is not about Buell in particular, it could be any bike, it just amuses me when some people run down a certain brand they probably never had any experience of. But of course all those nay sayers must certainly have owned Buells as they seem to know so much about them. I guess thats the pleasure of "customer reviews" for lack of a better term. No need to drop the coin to find out for yourself there's certainly more than enough who have ridden them to base a judgement on. kind of letting somebody else to the work for ya..Like me for instance I've never ridden one, but I've certainly read enough and seen enough after pictures to never let the thought of purchaseing one enter my mind. No matter how many coats of wax you put on it a turd is still a turd....

Tricky Dicky
03-22-2006, 03:04 PM
Same here but from the other side of the fence, anyways it,s late here . Good night Johnboy.

Mister Tee
03-22-2006, 03:21 PM
That's whacky. The Buell I rode was a lot of fun. But it wasn't exactly top quality either, the fit and finish was sloppy, and I can't imagine using a belt for a driveline on a sportbike. I considered one for a while, but it just seemed too cheaply put together for the price.

trixxergixxer
03-22-2006, 08:14 PM
Actualy actually actually ( quote from primer I mean primo on biker boyz) There is a very good prospective american company coming out with a bike that might be able to compete www.fischer1.com check it out for you ford driving busted, knuckle, tool box toting, everything american people. Hey I live here but I am not an idiot. I make judgments based on history not biased on history! Long and short is that the Twins are allowed unlimited mods to compete with the I4s. Harleys are decent on the flat tracks, and at a time were the king of the ring. To be honest, it is nice having A AMERICAN company making sportbikes... Buell is not there yet, and they have to get rid of the "American Iron" Its a Harley attitude. There are more people like me who buy bikes for fit, performance, value, and the BADGE on the bike is one of the last thinks considered... And oh yeah... Maintenance track records count... [[ coming from a guy with an electrical issue on my gixxer... go figure ]]

trixxergixxer
03-22-2006, 08:21 PM
Well atleast theyve got something. I mean if you know your going to break down you might as well break down with style. ...Dang my bikes dieing again arrg you piece of crap ....jerk( the front break) Please flip over so I can sell this piece of junk to my insurance company....wait a minute this thing is good for something...trashing out! Yeah the XB12R has a rake angle of only 21 degrees, same ergos as a 250 Moto GP race bike. In a test of road bikes it was the fastest cornering bike of all time. The xb12s also holds the record for the longest rolling stoppie or endo as some might call it.

deathwoozle
03-23-2006, 01:26 AM
I took a demo ride on a buell at Bike Week this year. It was a thunderbolt??? whatever that is. My buddy with his r-1 put me up to it. Just my opinion, but they need to change their motto from "we own the corners" to "we own the FIRST corner, then you own our ass". yes, it corner well with its compact wheel base, but what an absolute pussy. I mean seriously... 80 hp out of a 1300cc motor??? what a frickin joke. and im going to pay like 14000 for this embarassing POS? on the upside, the bike might be good for a stunter, with the short wheelbase, even underpowered as it is, getting the front off the ground was childishly easy (much to the consternation of the buell demo instructor). But trade my gixxer1k for it? HAHAHAHAHAHA! dream on buell, not in this lifetime. oh, and as an aside, I just hate that whole "streetfighter" look. I know some people go for that and thats cool, but to me it looks like some moron wrecked his bike pulled off the screwed up plastic, and then was too damn cheap to replace it. its about as asthetically pleasing as a swift kick in the nuts...

Tricky Dicky
03-23-2006, 03:19 AM
Who said any thing about trading in your litre, sounds like they are really overpriced where you shop. Yeah 80 or 90 bhp at 6800rpm not a lot, but more torque than a litre at 5200rpm how funny is that HAHAHA. What,s wrong with a belt, it,s stronger and quieter than a chain and has a smoother pickup. The reason they are not more widely used is they limit the width of the rear tyre, after all what do top fuel draggers use to drive their superchargers, can,t be that bad then.

Boss
03-23-2006, 03:45 AM
I just hate that whole "streetfighter" look. I know some people go for that and thats cool, but to me it looks like some moron wrecked his bike pulled off the screwed up plastic, and then was too damn cheap to replace it. its about as asthetically pleasing as a swift kick in the nuts... :thumbup: :laughingr

JesterGix
03-23-2006, 07:38 AM
Who said any thing about trading in your litre, sounds like they are really overpriced where you shop. Yeah 80 or 90 bhp at 6800rpm not a lot, but more torque than a litre at 5200rpm how funny is that HAHAHA. What,s wrong with a belt, it,s stronger and quieter than a chain and has a smoother pickup. The reason they are not more widely used is they limit the width of the rear tyre, after all what do top fuel draggers use to drive their superchargers, can,t be that bad then. They have counslors you can see that can help with denile....they might even have a 10 step program that would work for you. :thumbup: Its hard but you can work through it little fella, every day just try your hardest to accept the reality of buell being a bag of ass- take it one peanut at a time. ;) Try this, stand in front of a mirror and say, "I am smart, I am not confused, and I will beat you Mr. Denile...and damn it! people like me!" and eventually the truth will be easier to take. :thumbup:

Maui
03-23-2006, 07:48 AM
That Fischer looks pretty cool and should be available be for the Czsxy or what ever the American GP bike that guy is trying to build

Tricky Dicky
03-23-2006, 08:23 AM
They have counslors you can see that can help with denile....they might even have a 10 step program that would work for you. :thumbup: Its hard but you can work through it little fella, every day just try your hardest to accept the reality of buell being a bag of ass- take it one peanut at a time. ;) Try this, stand in front of a mirror and say, "I am smart, I am not confused, and I will beat you Mr. Denile...and damn it! people like me!" and eventually the truth will be easier to take. :thumbup: Who exactly is mister Denile, maybe you should get your own mantra. I should have paid more attention in english class... I presume you are trying to say I am in denial, well you work it out, if you took math that is , the Buell makes 89 ft/lb, how about the litre, 86 perhaps.

Madgoal1
03-23-2006, 01:32 PM
there is nothin wrong with the buells i love mine altho its the tube frame model, there hasnt been any real problem with it...it might not be the fastest on the road but then again it was never designed to be as such. dont knock anythin if you dont kno enough info on it to make a true judgement...you may not like them and are biased toward them but that doesnt meen all of them are beat pieces of junk lol ill just put on my fire suit now

JesterGix
03-23-2006, 01:44 PM
there is nothin wrong with the buells i love mine altho its the tube frame model, there hasnt been any real problem with it...it might not be the fastest on the road but then again it was never designed to be as such. dont knock anythin if you dont kno enough info on it to make a true judgement...you may not like them and are biased toward them but that doesnt meen all of them are beat pieces of junk lol ill just put on my fire suit now its all good you can have an opinion I just based mine on reading,seeing,and hearing more "oh what the hell now!!??" stories than "this is a good bike" stories. But if you've been trouble free, outstanding! I wont wish bad bike luck on anyone :thumbup:

JesterGix
03-23-2006, 01:52 PM
Who exactly is mister Denile, maybe you should get your own mantra. I should have paid more attention in english class... I presume you are trying to say I am in denial, well you work it out, if you took math that is , the Buell makes 89 ft/lb, how about the litre, 86 perhaps. Boy you're pretty tricky- dicky... :laughingr putem' on a track together then we can talk numbers... :laughingr yes talk about my english BTW its tire not tyre, and ' are more fitting to use in words such as "it's" and "what's" than , are.. :lol: Its allright though I completely understand, baby steps to recovery- just spend some more time in the mirror, you can do it! :thumbup:

Engloid
03-23-2006, 05:09 PM
A friend of mine just got a Buell Blast for his first streetbike. Although it may be decent for a first bike, he said he avoids the interstates because he can't keep up with traffic. He said that 70mph is really winding it out in top gear. :rofl:

Maui
03-23-2006, 05:12 PM
A friend of mine just got a Buell Blast for his first streetbike. Although it may be decent for a first bike, he said he avoids the interstates because he can't keep up with traffic. He said that 70mph is really winding it out in top gear. :rofl: That is sad... I mean even on my first bike... an 01 Suzuki Volusia, I could do 95+ and 80s without working it... That is for a 581 pound 800 cc cruiser with a 200+ pound guy on it, and the bike is only something like 50 hp or their abouts... Shesh...

trixxergixxer
03-23-2006, 06:04 PM
looks like mr dicky is actually getting paid to promote english and buell wow! I actually am surprised at how much stupidity there is in the world. I just didnt think it would creep onto our site. woopty doo its got a shorter wheel base and more torque Sounds to me like they are trying to fool somebody into thinking its a liter bike. hmm....its lacking in hp so let shoten the wheelbase play on our torque and no one will notice exept when the morons who purchase this bike will be broke down a mile down the road and we will wave to them as we leave this place......I mean cmon its american madetheyve got to purchase it.

Sucker Punch
03-23-2006, 06:04 PM
Aren't Buells slow too?

Tricky Dicky
03-24-2006, 02:59 AM
Yeah Trixie, you do come across as the type of person that would wave at a biker that was having problems as you rode on by, luckily few bikers are like you though.

Maui
03-24-2006, 05:06 AM
I ride both cruisers and sportbikes, but I don't ride Harleys. I always pull over just because I would want the same... Especially if something is going wrong, always nice to have someone to either brainstorm or help out. I can say that a lot of squids will not pull over, as well as if I am on my SV, most Harleys keep going. Mixed bag I guess.

trixxergixxer
03-24-2006, 07:20 AM
Actually i take pride in knowing I am mechanically inclined. As a matter of fact The morning my first boy was born one of my friends called me saying his bike was screwed up ,and he couldnt figure out the problem. He lived acouple minutes away from the hospital so I dropped by fixed his bike and went back to be with my wifeand newborn. But if the guy was a moron like some people on here I would have laughed and hung up the phone.

Sucker Punch
03-24-2006, 08:43 AM
I always got the impression that riders were a pretty tight-knit crowd that sort of "looked out" for one another, just because it's like that "brotherhood of riding" mentality. I was always under the impression that when it came down to it, everyone was on the same "side." Of course, I'm not including the likes of Hells Angels, Thunderguards, Pagans, etc. :D I'm sure they wouldn't pull over for much other than Harleys (and honestly I wouldn't want them to pull over :lol: ).

Maui
03-24-2006, 09:22 AM
I always got the impression that riders were a pretty tight-knit crowd that sort of "looked out" for one another, just because it's like that "brotherhood of riding" mentality. I was always under the impression that when it came down to it, everyone was on the same "side." Of course, I'm not including the likes of Hells Angels, Thunderguards, Pagans, etc. :D I'm sure they wouldn't pull over for much other than Harleys (and honestly I wouldn't want them to pull over :lol: ). Nope... You go to boards like these and a fair portion of the folks will piss over the Harleys, or you show up at a bike bar, etc. and you will sometimes get comments or crap... It all depeneds.. There is some definite polarization like everything else in society

Tricky Dicky
03-24-2006, 11:16 AM
Well there you go Trixie, that,s one thing we can agree on there sure are a few morons on here, you prove my point admirably. Strange though I wouldn,t have taken you for the mechanically minded type. I on the other hand will pull over and help anyone, even morons need help occasionally, in fact you could say morons especially need help. Twice last season I stopped for guys in trouble, turned out they were only punctures on both occasions, some numties don,t even carry a puncture repair kit when they ride.

Sucker Punch
03-24-2006, 11:17 AM
Nope... You go to boards like these and a fair portion of the folks will piss over the Harleys, or you show up at a bike bar, etc. and you will sometimes get comments or crap... It all depeneds.. There is some definite polarization like everything else in society Granted, I wouldn't pull up to a biker bar on a sport bike, but I figured out on the road everyone kind of looks out for each other.....

Maui
03-24-2006, 11:25 AM
Granted, I wouldn't pull up to a biker bar on a sport bike, but I figured out on the road everyone kind of looks out for each other..... Why not? Now I am not talking about crashing a HOG rally... But I pretty much go where the riders are. Wallys up in Hampton Beach can get an interesting crowd.

Sucker Punch
03-24-2006, 11:27 AM
Why not? Now I am not talking about crashing a HOG rally... But I pretty much go where the riders are. Wallys up in Hampton Beach can get an interesting crowd. Now, that I'd consider...

Maui
03-24-2006, 11:33 AM
Wally's isn't too bad. Probably helps that I don't look like a poser and all, but feels real weird to walk in with a full face where it is a "no Helmet Law" state. Just seen way too much to not ride without a helmet... Besides... I don't liek swallowing bugs... and june bugs hurt when they bang you in the temple at 80 MPH

Sucker Punch
03-24-2006, 11:36 AM
Wally's isn't too bad. Probably helps that I don't look like a poser and all, but feels real weird to walk in with a full face where it is a "no Helmet Law" state. Just seen way too much to not ride without a helmet... Besides... I don't liek swallowing bugs... and june bugs hurt when they bang you in the temple at 80 MPH So you'd basically feel like Darth Vader showing up at a wedding? :D

Maui
03-24-2006, 11:44 AM
Nah... Not that bad at all... But I will not be using the classic "Mind if we dance with your dates?" line any time soon there

Sucker Punch
03-24-2006, 11:46 AM
Nah... Not that bad at all... But I will not be using the classic "Mind if we dance with your dates?" line any time soon there I hear ya there....

REVLIMIT
03-24-2006, 04:24 PM
Any bike will break if the owner doesn't take care of them. My brother has a buell and hasn't had a single problem with it. He rides it everyday and has had it for about 10-11 months so far.

gsxrace01
03-24-2006, 06:31 PM
Any bike will break if the owner doesn't take care of them. My brother has a buell and hasn't had a single problem with it. He rides it everyday and has had it for about 10-11 months so far.i guess he doesn't mind being the slowest guy on the road,,,just give it some time,,,it's junk,it will break.....

Sucker Punch
03-24-2006, 07:25 PM
i guess he doesn't mind being the slowest guy on the road,,,just give it some time,,,it's junk,it will break..... I'm not a big Buell fan either, and maybe they are junk, but I'm sure that not every GSXR on the road is trouble-free.

trixxergixxer
03-24-2006, 09:06 PM
this is not a forum of who is a better patron than one another nor is it a buell forum Its a gixxer forum and if you dont like it here then piss off! If you want to buy a buell then be my guest just All I ask is you look at the track record. As for tricky dicky sucker you said you didnt think I would be the mechanically inclined type. How would you know? Do you know me? No! And guess what? who cares ? If you started in with your buell crap to my face I would prolly just avoid you ,and if you didnt shut up then I would prolly fatten your lip. Buells suck and thats all there is to know about it! There slow their inefficient, there expensive ,and their track record sucks, be it the actual track ,or mechanically speaking. we have all said this and you still cant seem to get it through your thick skull! We have shown you pics of them pissing oil and 2 websites dedicated to their suckyness and all you have come back with is " I didnt take you for the mechanical type" and " I would pull over for anyone broke down" and " your not using proper English here" and "they do good stopies" and " gixxers arent trouble free either" well genius we arent talking about small problems here ! We are talking about the engine (you know that thing that keeps you propelling down the road) Blowing up ! I would like to know how many gixxers upon normal use have had their engines blow up with under 10k miles on them. I am prety sure that if Imade a forum on that it would be dead! So sit back shut up and think dont try and type something back to me because you have a pride issue. I am a prick I know that and guess what I comfortable with it. My friend know it , my wife knows it, my family knows it, and just about every other gixxer owner on this site knows it. Now what I want you to know is you cant,arent,wont ever win this battle! You are comparing gixxers with buells what more do I need to say?

Sucker Punch
03-24-2006, 09:14 PM
this is not a forum of who is a better patron than one another nor is it a buell forum Its a gixxer forum and if you dont like it here then piss off! If you want to buy a buell then be my guest just All I ask is you look at the track record. As for tricky dicky sucker you said you didnt think I would be the mechanically inclined type. How would you know? Do you know me? No! And guess what? who cares ? If you started in with your buell crap to my face I would prolly just avoid you ,and if you didnt shut up then I would prolly fatten your lip. Buells suck and thats all there is to know about it! There slow their inefficient, there expensive ,and their track record sucks, be it the actual track ,or mechanically speaking. we have all said this and you still cant seem to get it through your thick skull! We have shown you pics of them pissing oil and 2 websites dedicated to their suckyness and all you have come back with is " I didnt take you for the mechanical type" and " I would pull over for anyone broke down" and " your not using proper English here" and "they do good stopies" and " gixxers arent trouble free either" well genius we arent talking about small problems here ! We are talking about the engine (you know that thing that keeps you propelling down the road) Blowing up ! I would like to know how many gixxers upon normal use have had their engines blow up with under 10k miles on them. I am prety sure that if Imade a forum on that it would be dead! So sit back shut up and think dont try and type something back to me because you have a pride issue. I am a prick I know that and guess what I comfortable with it. My friend know it , my wife knows it, my family knows it, and just about every other gixxer owner on this site knows it. Now what I want you to know is you cant,arent,wont ever win this battle! You are comparing gixxers with buells what more do I need to say? If you have such a problem with this guy's posts, then why do you continue to respond to him and egg him on to continue? And FWIW, big deal if you found two sites started by people who have problems with Buells. Do a Google Search and you'll probably find two more that are having problems with GSXRs. No manufacturer is trouble-free. If you get this worked up over someone disagreeing with you, maybe you should take a break from the site. How'bout if you do the mods a favor and just chill? By arguing, you're only making unnecessary work for them......

joel
03-24-2006, 10:25 PM
They have counslors you can see that can help with denile....they might even have a 10 step program that would work for you. :thumbup: Its hard but you can work through it little fella, every day just try your hardest to accept the reality of buell being a bag of ass- take it one peanut at a time. ;) Try this, stand in front of a mirror and say, "I am smart, I am not confused, and I will beat you Mr. Denile...and damn it! people like me!" and eventually the truth will be easier to take. :thumbup: I think tricky dicky owns a buell and comes here to get someone to talk about it cos no one else will. Sorry mate , that bike is only good enuff for a 2 year old to wheelie. Ta Ta :laughingr

joel
03-24-2006, 10:31 PM
BUT I really enjoyed readin the trixxer and tricky for the bitch slang. Shite I had a good chuckle.

Tricky Dicky
03-25-2006, 02:41 AM
This will be my final post on this thread, I just want to clear up some inaccuracies. I did not bring up Buell,s on GSXR forum, that was Boss, I did not shit talk in anyones face, that was Trixie, I remember he asked advice on fork seals and oil two fairly basic mechanical issues, that why I did,nt think he was mech: minded. I have never on any part of this forum questioned GSXR.s reliability. O.K I think that covers most things, glad that is over and done. On a more pleasant note it will probably not surprise anyone that I have a Buell X1 as well as a 98 GSXR 750. They are both fantastic bikes although completely different to each other, Ilove motorcycles and variety as in everything else in life makes things more interesting. I have had the Buell for 4 years and no surprises it had some problems, in close on 29,000 miles I have had to replace both rocker cover gaskets, took about an hour and half and cost 20 euros, I have also had to replace a crank case seal, that cost 16 euros and took about 2 hours, no big deal I did the work myself and loved doing it, it is nice to get to know your machine intimately. There have never been any :MAJOR: expolding issues with the engine ,in fact they are noted to have a strong bottom end ,I personally know of X1,s that have been tuned to develop 120hp at the wheel and still run on the stock crank and rods without exploding I have had my SRAD for 3 years and it now has 25,000mls on board, I have put about 15k of those miles on, I have never had any trouble with the SRAD so you could say that it is more reliable than the X1. I love both bikes equally, no favorites I don,t want to make either one jealous . they are both very different and each has it,s own unique character, that is what I like in bikes .... character.. I don,t care what it says on the tank, if it floats my boat that is good enough for me. You all select whatever bike you want for your own reasons, that is what biking is all about .. individuality and camaraderie. See you soon on another thread... live long and prosper.... over and OUT.

Sucker Punch
03-25-2006, 03:39 AM
This will be my final post on this thread, I just want to clear up some inaccuracies. I did not bring up Buell,s on GSXR forum, that was Boss, I did not shit talk in anyones face, that was Trixie, I remember he asked advice on fork seals and oil two fairly basic mechanical issues, that why I did,nt think he was mech: minded. I have never on any part of this forum questioned GSXR.s reliability. O.K I think that covers most things, glad that is over and done. On a more pleasant note it will probably not surprise anyone that I have a Buell X1 as well as a 98 GSXR 750. They are both fantastic bikes although completely different to each other, Ilove motorcycles and variety as in everything else in life makes things more interesting. I have had the Buell for 4 years and no surprises it had some problems, in close on 29,000 miles I have had to replace both rocker cover gaskets, took about an hour and half and cost 20 euros, I have also had to replace a crank case seal, that cost 16 euros and took about 2 hours, no big deal I did the work myself and loved doing it, it is nice to get to know your machine intimately. There have never been any :MAJOR: expolding issues with the engine ,in fact they are noted to have a strong bottom end ,I personally know of X1,s that have been tuned to develop 120hp at the wheel and still run on the stock crank and rods without exploding I have had my SRAD for 3 years and it now has 25,000mls on board, I have put about 15k of those miles on, I have never had any trouble with the SRAD so you could say that it is more reliable than the X1. I love both bikes equally, no favorites I don,t want to make either one jealous . they are both very different and each has it,s own unique character, that is what I like in bikes .... character.. I don,t care what it says on the tank, if it floats my boat that is good enough for me. You all select whatever bike you want for your own reasons, that is what biking is all about .. individuality and camaraderie. See you soon on another thread... live long and prosper.... over and OUT. I've never owned either so I can't comment, but I do think the Firebolt looks cool. :thumbup:

DFarris2420
03-25-2006, 11:26 AM
Wow thats a lot of oil.

gsxrace01
03-26-2006, 05:58 AM
buell>>bike built for queer's..you'd have to be plain stupid to buy one......

Sucker Punch
03-26-2006, 06:13 AM
buell>>bike built for queer's..you'd have to be plain stupid to buy one...... That's your opinion. Obviously everyone doesn't feel the same way or Buell wouldn't be around. Just because you think they're "built for queers" doesn't mean everyone else does. I'm sure there are plenty of people in the world that thinks your bike was built for a queer also.

trixxergixxer
03-26-2006, 06:32 AM
alright sucker punch you want me to go off on you now?

Boss
03-26-2006, 06:46 AM
I will end this with a quote from Ron White " YOU CANT FIX STUPID!"

Sucker Punch
03-26-2006, 07:30 PM
alright sucker punch you want me to go off on you now? If you feel it necessary, go for it. Someone obviously likes Buells, because if nobody liked them, they wouldn't be in business. I'm not a Buell fan by any stretch, but without ever owning one, I can't comment. I doubt the majority of members here have owned them either. Volkswagens got horrible reviews as far as reliability, yet my previous car, a 2002 GTI 1.8T never gave me any trouble within the 50,000 miles that I owned it. Not every VW on the road is a pile of crap, and neither is every Buell on the road.

trixxergixxer
03-26-2006, 08:09 PM
wow its sad how true that really is I will end this with a quote from Ron White " YOU CANT FIX STUPID!"

Maui
03-27-2006, 05:51 AM
wow its sad how true that really is +1

Madgoal1
03-27-2006, 11:30 AM
I'm with Tricky just cause i own a buell and have owned one for the past few years, so i feel i can actually for a decent opinion about it.. they have their quirks but so does every bike. The buells have a personality to them or atleast in my opinion and thats what makes them a fun bike. You cannot base your opinion on what some people on the net say because its just like you goin to the mags and lookin up the speed and times for a bike and then telling some one their time is off cuz its not the same as the mags when you have not done it yourself lolif your gonna bash something be sure you know it well and by the posts that some are making on here it is apparent that they dont know about the bikes other than what some other people had problems with...if you dont like the way they look then fine just dont bitch about problems other people had, when the majority are fine. They are great bikes (im talkin bout the older tube frame models that supposedly got a bad rep) and yes i do own one only thing i had to do was put on a new set of rocker cover gaskets cuz factory was paper and replace with metal;....and that issue was fixed with the xb model

trixxergixxer
03-27-2006, 01:12 PM
oh yeah well blah blah blah blah blah blah who gives a crap. oh yeah harley but they actually sell a crap and you bought it what more do you need to say. All I heard was blah blah blah less credibility less credibility this guy is stupid and he admits it blah blah

evilbologna
03-27-2006, 01:49 PM
i like how the new buells sound with the race pipes or whatever they are. pretty dang mean sounding. but thats all i know of buells.

Sucker Punch
03-27-2006, 02:29 PM
oh yeah well blah blah blah blah blah blah who gives a crap. oh yeah harley but they actually sell a crap and you bought it what more do you need to say. All I heard was blah blah blah less credibility less credibility this guy is stupid and he admits it blah blah Dude, how'bout if you quit trying to start trouble? He likes his Buell, and you like your GSXR. Live with it. Don't think that your GSXR doesn't have its quirks, because it does. I'm sure there are plenty of intelligent members swarming www.gsxr.com that could shed some light on it. You're acting like a total squid.

joel
03-28-2006, 12:14 AM
WAA WAA WAA WAA WAA WAA WAA. :twofinger :thefinger :twofinger :thefinger C'mon lets be friends. Far out that was a good laugh. Nothin like a bitch fight. meow meow

Sucker Punch
03-28-2006, 05:08 AM
WAA WAA WAA WAA WAA WAA WAA. :twofinger :thefinger :twofinger :thefinger C'mon lets be friends. Far out that was a good laugh. Nothin like a bitch fight. meow meow :lol:

gsxrace01
03-28-2006, 02:21 PM
it's junk!!!!!!!!!there's nothing good to say about it

trixxergixxer
03-28-2006, 04:49 PM
it's junk!!!!!!!!!there's nothing good to say about it +1

CRASH411MJ
04-13-2006, 01:32 PM
Ah, yea Buell-- bringing you yesterdays technology at tomorrows prices. :laughingr

v8killer4life
04-14-2006, 07:20 AM
One thing I heard mentioned is how superchargers use belts...I have plenty of experience in auto racing, and let me by the first to say that superchargers throw belts faster than you may think. Look at auto engines for example...the early 3-4 cylinders use belts, 6's sometimes do, but 8's,10's,12's use chains. IMHO belts are an accident waiting to happen. There is no way you can compare the tensile strength of a rubber belt with a wire core to that of a metal chain. Just my experience makes me a bit biased, but is that so bad? I'm not bombing on Buells, I'm just saying belt driven in general...just isn't wise to me. You replace an automotive timing belt every 60k miles as a general rule, chains 120k. You make your opinion :thumbup:

Sucker Punch
04-14-2006, 05:14 PM
One thing I heard mentioned is how superchargers use belts...I have plenty of experience in auto racing, and let me by the first to say that superchargers throw belts faster than you may think. Look at auto engines for example...the early 3-4 cylinders use belts, 6's sometimes do, but 8's,10's,12's use chains. IMHO belts are an accident waiting to happen. There is no way you can compare the tensile strength of a rubber belt with a wire core to that of a metal chain. Just my experience makes me a bit biased, but is that so bad? I'm not bombing on Buells, I'm just saying belt driven in general...just isn't wise to me. You replace an automotive timing belt every 60k miles as a general rule, chains 120k. You make your opinion :thumbup: 1994 B4C Camaro (LT1 V8) with 170,400 miles. I've never had to replace a belt. You talk about chains. Timing chains break. I also have a 2005 Subaru WRX STi and I believe at 60,000 miles there is a timing CHAIN (I'm pretty sure it's a timing chain) that needs to be replaced. Just because it's a chain doesn't mean it's good. I've broken more chains on a 20 inch BMX bike than I have broken belts on cars.

trixxergixxer
04-14-2006, 07:07 PM
give it up sucker punch you aint getting a sucker punch on this fight you suck and so does your buell. go to a buell forum if you love them so much and I will smoke you through every turn on my gsxr, I will smoke you stuntin , draggin, reliability, and looks so take your sucker punch somewhere else because you cannot and will not sucker punch a gsxr owner with your mule....peace and shut up already...LMAO

bj_please
04-14-2006, 07:23 PM
I just bought a 04 gsxr 600 after 5 years of riding a X1. I am in heaven now. The Buell was with out a question the biggest piece of shit I have ever owned. Have you bike break down on Friday of the AMA races at Road America and walk the rest of race weekend. Or have to put two quarts of oil to get home from only 70 miles away. Those are just two of the too many times to count in the 5 years the bike broke down. I spent almost 17000$ between the bike and aftermarket parts. Then probably 3g’s in service for all of the crap that went wrong. My gixxer was only 5500 and I would guess from this forum and others that will proably be all I spend except tires and oil changes. I bought the Buell for the same reason as most do. To have some thing made here in the USA. That was a very costly mistake on my part. This is not just my bike, I now 5 or 6 other guys that have been in the same situation with no end of problems. THEY DO SUCK AND THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO IT.

trixxergixxer
04-14-2006, 07:48 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: its a pile of :poo: and the proof is in the pudding eat that!!!!Spoken like a champ!!!!!

v8killer4life
04-14-2006, 10:05 PM
Well last time I checked, a 94 would indeed be an LT1....and a V-8...just check my list above...most four-cylinders (which a Subaru Boxer is a flat 4) use belts... :), oh and one other thing...bragging about not doing routine maintenance isn't gonna get you ne points either :headscrat

Sucker Punch
04-15-2006, 04:43 AM
Well last time I checked, a 94 would indeed be an LT1....and a V-8...just check my list above...most four-cylinders (which a Subaru Boxer is a flat 4) use belts... :), oh and one other thing...bragging about not doing routine maintenance isn't gonna get you ne points either :headscrat Who's saying anything about routine maintenance? I never said anything about routine maintenance. I simply said I've never had to change a belt. You shouldn't read any deeper into that. And yes, it is a belt that the Subaru Flat 4 uses. I simply couldn't think last night. :) I know plenty of people that haven't changed the timing belt on their Flat 4s at the recommended schedule but it's not something I would personally skip on. There's a reason that manufacturers recommend this type of maintenance. It's a little bit different than an oil change at every 3000 miles.....

Sucker Punch
04-15-2006, 04:44 AM
give it up sucker punch you aint getting a sucker punch on this fight you suck and so does your buell. go to a buell forum if you love them so much and I will smoke you through every turn on my gsxr, I will smoke you stuntin , draggin, reliability, and looks so take your sucker punch somewhere else because you cannot and will not sucker punch a gsxr owner with your mule....peace and shut up already...LMAO Spoken like a true champion. I don't even own a bike. :headscrat

v8killer4life
04-15-2006, 11:18 AM
What I meant about the routine maintenance was the replacing of belts regularly, I know all about changing belts lol, I just dropped 500$ on my last race car for a kevlar belt/timing oil pump pulleys and the whole nine yards...not trying to get an attitude or nething. I dunno if the flats are interference engines, but my dsm was...meaning if the timing belt broke, the valves would embed into the piston head :thumbup: real fun!! lol but thats what I meant, nuthin about ur personal skills or nething :)

burnoutboy
04-15-2006, 01:20 PM
He Trix, just for the record I agree with about 90% of what you said, but while I'm fairly sure your just having fun with some Buell owners, give the poor guy a break. While, like I said, I agree with about 90% of what you said I'd also never knock another biker for their choice of mount. To each their own. As long as they're riding. Maybe they like working on their bike. BTW across the pond I do believe it is tyre same as it's colour not color. Don't know why, just the facts.

Sucker Punch
04-15-2006, 02:42 PM
What I meant about the routine maintenance was the replacing of belts regularly, I know all about changing belts lol, I just dropped 500$ on my last race car for a kevlar belt/timing oil pump pulleys and the whole nine yards...not trying to get an attitude or nething. I dunno if the flats are interference engines, but my dsm was...meaning if the timing belt broke, the valves would embed into the piston head :thumbup: real fun!! lol but thats what I meant, nuthin about ur personal skills or nething :) What kind of car do you race? And yeah, race cars are expensive. :)

v8killer4life
04-15-2006, 02:48 PM
I actually sold it b4 I moved. It was a 1G DSM. I was actually in the process of getting a cage for it when one of my friends (who had been asking about it since I mentioned moving) offered to trade me his truck and cash. I used it as a daily driver most of the time, but didn't see it being very useful in MN (snow vs. 1.5'' drop...no thanks :D ) so I took him up on it. You can check out alot of stuff about them at http://www.dsmtuners.com

Sucker Punch
04-15-2006, 03:50 PM
I actually sold it b4 I moved. It was a 1G DSM. I was actually in the process of getting a cage for it when one of my friends (who had been asking about it since I mentioned moving) offered to trade me his truck and cash. I used it as a daily driver most of the time, but didn't see it being very useful in MN (snow vs. 1.5'' drop...no thanks :D ) so I took him up on it. You can check out alot of stuff about them at http://www.dsmtuners.com What was it's 1/4 time when you sold it? I'll check it out!

v8killer4life
04-15-2006, 04:00 PM
Well, I had a SBR MBC on it running 17 psi on an 16g turbo. It was only fwd tho so I had a real hard time w/ luanches. I put in a new clutch and a Fidanza 11lb flywheel, so as far as luaching it had the power, just killed tires and the clutch would get hot after 2 or 3 luanches and begin to slip. Stock they run like 15, but mine was down to low 14's on mastercraft tires (which needless to say, may as well have been spare donuts!) but it would gear out at 155-157 mph (I did it once, kid who bought it did it on a test drive....bastard lol)

trixxergixxer
04-15-2006, 07:15 PM
as mechanically challenged as i seem to be . I was actually the designer and manufacturer and seller of the sheet metal intake called the spintake by floored performance. I had a 1g dsm with a big 16g turbo. large starion fmic, 3" down pipe all the way back to a cat back. I had the boost around 21psi, i had 10mm plug wires, ngk cold burning plugs, I had 660cc injectors, i had an apexi fuel controller ,an act 2100lb clutch to my awd car. i had full body kit, hood scoop roof scoop , graphics, tinted windows, custom two tone matching outside leather interior. let me see if i can get you a link to it...Oh yeah and i built every bit of it with my own bare hands. From paint to plug wires. it was running low 11s but it was still slow compared to my gsxr and my bike was way more fun and less expensive.

v8killer4life
04-15-2006, 07:24 PM
Nice! Ya, you listed a few of the reasons I'm here! Lol, I had 10mm also, I wasn't one for looks tho... gutted interior, and stock blue and black 2 tone lol. I figure it's slower looking, but in actuality a lil bit faster. I never got to the EMS or nething, and I'de been told the stock manny was good for like 700+...in all honesty I wasn't near that so I wasn't really conscerned about the truth in it. Onna my buddies had a 95 Camaro with a 355 and some toys...well just read my screen name to hear that story :bounce I actually started getting into bikes to play a prank on him (I know, sounds really stupid) but he was always "Ricer this, fart can that" and "My engine is 3 times urs (6 liter=355 2 liter=4g63t) so I was like Man I should go get a gixxer and tell him I bought a GSX (knowing he'd assume I meant eclipse) then beat his camaro so bad he'd shut his mouth. But then as I looked around this "world" I got more interested and realized how much more serious this is than I had originally thought lol. Besides DSM's production plant was in Normal, IL ...that's as domestic as Detriot, right? :lol: http://www.ratemydsm.com/member/Diesel/?member=Diesel sorry no pix

trixxergixxer
04-15-2006, 07:44 PM
sweet. i still have a turbo timer that i have never used i should prolly sell seeing as how I just remembered. I tried to find some pics of my car on the dragstrip website but its temporarily down. i did however make 500% profit off my car when i sold her

trixxergixxer
04-15-2006, 07:46 PM
I have smoked so many v-8s at the dragstrip its not even funny , infact one night I got the fastest car not brought in on a trailer deal.

v8killer4life
04-15-2006, 07:46 PM
well I got a beater truck (bike hualer was my intention) and about 60% what I paid...I dunno, I prolly got screwed, but there was an GS500 for sale I think in Goshen, IN and I was all over that guy...he never called back, so now I'm up north trying to find a good job (as I don't have the prettiest driving record :cool: ) so that I can buy/insure my first bike and gear

v8killer4life
04-15-2006, 07:50 PM
Gotta love that face they make...kinda :rofl: ...then.... :headscrat lol one time I had my ex fiance in shotgun and a buddy sitting sideways across the back hump (no back seat and a tower bar lol) and I smoked an old guy in a '95 Cobra lol it was the funniest shit EVER! I was behind him @ a light turning the same way as him onto a highway...the light changed and he thought he was Mr. Toughguy and popped his clutch, throwing all kinds off ass on my hood, so I promptly completed my turn and gunned it...my ex just laffed @ him and my buddy was all cramped over in the hatch waving out the back window lol...loved it!

trixxergixxer
04-15-2006, 07:53 PM
I gave the spintake blueprints and specs over to my brother because i got sick of messing with the intakes so they should be back on the market but here is a website that supported our products http://www.dvdtfab.com/upgradepipe.htm

v8killer4life
04-15-2006, 07:57 PM
What kinda bike did you start on? I keep hearin SV650's are nice, I'm just worried the "650" may do a number on insurance

trixxergixxer
04-16-2006, 11:41 AM
I actually started on a gsxr 600

v8killer4life
04-16-2006, 10:13 PM
really? I thought about that when I first og tinto bikes, but more and more people keep saying no-no so a SV 650 sounded like a loyal, resonable start off I thought

RedSquirrel
04-17-2006, 12:00 PM
I just traded my SV650s in for a '06 GSXR-600 and the insurance cost is almost the same for each. The SV was $4 a year cheaper. And for reference I use State Farm Ins.