be careful of police

PLEASE be careful if you see police, they're starting to pull out in front of speeding bikes because notoriously bikes run away from, and subsequently get away from the cops. Another rider was telling me about two "accidents" in the past month. The first was active duty enlisted soldier in Hawaii. He was riding on the highway when a police officer pulled out in front of him. The next was a warrant officer in Florida who had a state trooper pull out in front of him. Both of them hit the police car and died. Of course both cops got off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist for what should have been manslaughter charges.

and they wonder why people are killing cops

horrible shit... FTP! i remember seeing a video on uponone.com when a guy in a group pulls away in a wheelie and a pigmobile pulls up in front of him and nails it dead-on... can anyone find this vid?

i want to see it too....

i would also like to see that

i want to see it too.... +1

fuck that!....hell get his!...i got pulled over the other day and i was nice and he let me go but to the assholes :2hard

PLEASE be careful if you see police, they're starting to pull out in front of speeding bikes because notoriously bikes run away from, and subsequently get away from the cops. Another rider was telling me about two "accidents" in the past month. The first was active duty enlisted soldier in Hawaii. He was riding on the highway when a police officer pulled out in front of him. The next was a warrant officer in Florida who had a state trooper pull out in front of him. Both of them hit the police car and died. Of course both cops got off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist for what should have been manslaughter charges. Yo back off on the Cop bashing, or get your jacket from someone else ;)

hahah he told you!

PLEASE be careful if you see police, they're starting to pull out in front of speeding bikes because notoriously bikes run away from, and subsequently get away from the cops. Another rider was telling me about two "accidents" in the past month. The first was active duty enlisted soldier in Hawaii. He was riding on the highway when a police officer pulled out in front of him. The next was a warrant officer in Florida who had a state trooper pull out in front of him. Both of them hit the police car and died. Of course both cops got off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist for what should have been manslaughter charges. Who told you this??? I really wouldn't trust 3rd hand information like this if I were you. I highly doubt police officers are pulling out in front of motorcyclists on purpose to try and wreck them. Sorry, but I gotta call BULLSHIT. Maybe an officer and a rider were involved in an accident where the rider died, but how do you know the officer intentionally pulled out in front of him?? Sounds like typical BS rumors that aren't true. I can tell you as an officer, that if I pulled out in front of a rider who was killed, not only would I be charged with misdemeanor death by vehicle, but I would lose my job and get sued for everything I own. I think you got some bad info. :thumbup: Anyways, ride safe.

Yo back off on the Cop bashing, or get your jacket from someone else ;) even tho i've never gotten a.......jacket from you that comment still deserves a "kiss my white ass" :lol:

HAHAHA^^^ I would like to see the vid too. There was the one fat ass guy from MD with a Crown vic doing the same thing. He looked like the cop from super troopers. HAHA

Who told you this??? I really wouldn't trust 3rd hand information like this if I were you. I highly doubt police officers are pulling out in front of motorcyclists on purpose to try and wreck them. Sorry, but I gotta call BULLSHIT. Maybe an officer and a rider were involved in an accident where the rider died, but how do you know the officer intentionally pulled out in front of him?? Sounds like typical BS rumors that aren't true. I can tell you as an officer, that if I pulled out in front of a rider who was killed, not only would I be charged with misdemeanor death by vehicle, but I would lose my job and get sued for everything I own. I think you got some bad info. :thumbup: Anyways, ride safe. +1

even tho i've never gotten a.......jacket from you that comment still deserves a "kiss my white ass" :lol: What the fuck you talking bout :2hard

http://www.sportbikerider.us/Shared_Code/Common/ShowImage.cfm?Picture_ID=43828&dsn=SBRPW&Time=0849

Who told you this??? I really wouldn't trust 3rd hand information like this if I were you. I highly doubt police officers are pulling out in front of motorcyclists on purpose to try and wreck them. Sorry, but I gotta call BULLSHIT. Maybe an officer and a rider were involved in an accident where the rider died, but how do you know the officer intentionally pulled out in front of him?? Sounds like typical BS rumors that aren't true. I can tell you as an officer, that if I pulled out in front of a rider who was killed, not only would I be charged with misdemeanor death by vehicle, but I would lose my job and get sued for everything I own. I think you got some bad info. :thumbup: Anyways, ride safe. +1 on the other hand, if your dumb ass runs and manges to get on the news making sportbike riders look bad...fuck it, you deserve anything bad coming to you.

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HAHAHA^^^ I would like to see the vid too. There was the one fat ass guy from MD with a Crown vic doing the same thing. He looked like the cop from super troopers. HAHA don't farva me "i would like a liter of cola"

omg..... he def. pulled out in front. Hear the tire squeal at the end. Was that in another country?

i quote: "All this accident happend in Lithuania, in capital Vilnius.The road was almost empty in front, there were no crossroads, no cars ant three empty lanes.The guy who was standing near cop car heard how these two A$$cops were talking and thinking "do or not to do"...when they saw Blade coming at high speed they immediately blocked road, spinning tyres and coming in front of the bike (aprox 50meters).After the crash all bikers that were standing near ran to the cop car and started beating the car.Cops were sitiing inside car, locked, scared and waving guns.Other ppl ran to biker, who was in the grass in the middle.That cop is now ni deeep-deleted- because at first they told press that they (cops) were blocking by all rules, with siren and cop-lights....unfortunately after couple days this tape appeared and local TV showed it.This is only part of video, small one but whole record show how 20 or so ppl almost put this cop car on the roof....they were lucky no to be outside after accident"

In texas you don't pull out in front of anyone unless you are DPS. And that is a big maybe cause they will just shoot your ass if they feel you are a danger to an innocent third person. But as far as chasing, those who run make all of us look bad. Including myself. I have been pulled over for just riding myself. I have been followed for just riding. The reason why is the dumb asses who run is why we all have a bad reputation. Don't do anything wrong and there will not be a problem. If you are not guilty of anything why run??? Right. And yes I am a police Officer in Texas.

PLEASE be careful if you see police, they're starting to pull out in front of speeding bikes because notoriously bikes run away from, and subsequently get away from the cops. Another rider was telling me about two "accidents" in the past month. The first was active duty enlisted soldier in Hawaii. He was riding on the highway when a police officer pulled out in front of him. The next was a warrant officer in Florida who had a state trooper pull out in front of him. Both of them hit the police car and died. Of course both cops got off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist for what should have been manslaughter charges. And how can you prove this was on purpose. if it was it is messed up. But maybe their higher ups said to end pursuit.

Wasn't cop bashing, just upset that vicous circles and unfair treatment like that exist.

Who told you this??? I really wouldn't trust 3rd hand information like this if I were you. I highly doubt police officers are pulling out in front of motorcyclists on purpose to try and wreck them. Sorry, but I gotta call BULLSHIT. Maybe an officer and a rider were involved in an accident where the rider died, but how do you know the officer intentionally pulled out in front of him?? Sounds like typical BS rumors that aren't true. I can tell you as an officer, that if I pulled out in front of a rider who was killed, not only would I be charged with misdemeanor death by vehicle, but I would lose my job and get sued for everything I own. I think you got some bad info. :thumbup: Anyways, ride safe. I got these stories from my captain, not someone who readily lies to us and is frequently very painful with the truth. Both instances were US Army soldiers, she got the stories from Army times. However, yes the stories could still be made up, but I highly doubt it.

Motocop, Ahsieh was pulled over for looking like a bike that evaded the cops earlier that night. fortunatly it wasnt him and the cop let us go, but the fact that some bikes run makes it difficult for cops to trust any. I can't really blame them. Also, maybe it was to end pursuit, I don't know that deep into the story.

I'm just going by what I've seen since I've been a Policeman. About 2 years ago, there was an officer in a city 15 miles north of here that ran a flashing red light and killed a highschool kid driving a Jeep. He lost his job, was criminally charged, and is being sued by the family, so I'm sure every paycheck he gets from now on will go straight to them. Of course he is beyond remorseful for what happened and it was a complete accident. His name and picture were plastered all over the television for a year. I can only imagine what would happen if an officer INTENTIONALLY killed a motorcyclist by pulling out in front of him. I'm sure it would gain national attention. I really highly doubt these stories are true, but if in fact they are, then those officers don't deserve to wear a badge.

as far as i know , there have been a few similar accidents here in nyc.. they pull up right next to you and "push" you off the road.. i also have been told by the nyc highway cops that either way right or wrong, sportbikes are getting pulled over this summer.. no offense to any officers out there but i understand why some people run.. its harrassment.. i know everytime im seen by highway im being pulled over and written for everything from my exhaust to my flushmounts and anything else they can find.. if i didnt care about money i would pull over myself.. and they wonder why people run :2hard :2hard :2hard :2hard :2hard :2hard

yeah I know there are some prick cops out there............too bad they can't all be cool like me :D

as far as i know , there have been a few similar accidents here in nyc.. they pull up right next to you and "push" you off the road.. i also have been told by the nyc highway cops that either way right or wrong, sportbikes are getting pulled over this summer.. no offense to any officers out there but i understand why some people run.. its harrassment.. i know everytime im seen by highway im being pulled over and written for everything from my exhaust to my flushmounts and anything else they can find.. if i didnt care about money i would pull over myself.. and they wonder why people run :2hard :2hard :2hard :2hard :2hard :2hard Your right about a part of it being harrasment but at the same time you are probably aware that flushmounts can be ticketed in NYC as well as exhausts that don't maintain legal sound pressure levels. Its like getting dark tints on your driver and passenger windows in your car. In most states its illegal to do that but people do it anyway so if you get ticketed for the dark tints its your own fault. If you are speeding even slightly over the speed limit and a cop decides to give you a ticket, you were still speeding. He might be an ass for giving you a ticket for doing 2mph over the limit but you were still speeding. Give a person a reason to be an ass and they just might take you up on it.

Posts like this are why I'm absolutely the epitome of politeness and respect to cops when I get pulled over. Also why I think that bikes you run from cops get what they deserver. I hate the idea of running from cops because its so damn tempting, and i KNOW that if I ever did run from them... pfft ain't no cop catchin me unless they got a plane, and even then that guy better fly like Maverick. So if you get caught runnin from cops, run into a tree, or a car or whatever, its your fault and you deserve it.

and i KNOW that if I ever did run from them... pfft ain't no cop catchin me unless they got a plane, and even then that guy better fly like Maverick. :laughingr :laughingr yeah right

it sucks because they should not be able to do this but then again if you mom was crossing the street and she got hit by a bike that was speeding im sure you would have want that cop to pull out a mile down the road.

2 wrongs dont make it right

and i KNOW that if I ever did run from them... pfft ain't no cop catchin me unless they got a plane, and even then that guy better fly like Maverick. So if you get caught runnin from cops, run into a tree, or a car or whatever, its your fault and you deserve it. That's what a kid thought on his 05 1000 last summer.... July 31st to be specific... Passed me at 89, I got caught up to him and lit him up... he left radar range at 130mph but was obviously scared of his bike because I kept up with him down the highway (CV's are good for maybe 135 with the lightbar and all the crap we pile in them). I shut it down after he took to a road I wasn't familiar with but he dumped the bike just after I terminated. His BAC was .12 and his GF was on the back of the bike. No damage to the bike... he leaned left she leaned right, dumped the bike in the grass at a T intersection. I'll post the dash cam as soon as the tape is back from being evidence at a trial I just testified for today. BTW... Had he not run... I was going to tell him to slow down and check out his bike... just like I do with sports car (rice does not equate to sports car) drivers I stop.

+1, want to c the vid

That's what a kid thought on his 05 1000 last summer.... July 31st to be specific... Passed me at 89, I got caught up to him and lit him up... he left radar range at 130mph but was obviously scared of his bike because I kept up with him down the highway (CV's are good for maybe 135 with the lightbar and all the crap we pile in them). I shut it down after he took to a road I wasn't familiar with but he dumped the bike just after I terminated. His BAC was .12 and his GF was on the back of the bike. No damage to the bike... he leaned left she leaned right, dumped the bike in the grass at a T intersection. I'll post the dash cam as soon as the tape is back from being evidence at a trial I just testified for today. BTW... Had he not run... I was going to tell him to slow down and check out his bike... just like I do with sports car (rice does not equate to sports car) drivers I stop. +1 want to see the vid. but i'm gonna give you a thumbs down on calling a car rice. Thats just straight up profiling. What do you consider rice? I hope your not the type of cop that thinks just because the dude is in a fixed up honda, means he "races." Alot of "sport car" drivers and drivers in BMWs, Mercedes are the biggest assholes on a rode. Far more deserving of a ticket than anyone else. Actually, i'll correct, SUV drivers deserve it. LOL. Just because he's got a nice "sports" car or bike, your gonna let him off a warning? But if he's in something "rice," fuck em? Some people definately deserve tickets.

+1 want to see the vid. but i'm gonna give you a thumbs down on calling a car rice. Thats just straight up profiling. What do you consider rice? I hope your not the type of cop that thinks just because the dude is in a fixed up honda, means he "races." Alot of "sport car" drivers and drivers in BMWs, Mercedes are the biggest assholes on a rode. Far more deserving of a ticket than anyone else. Actually, i'll correct, SUV drivers deserve it. LOL. Just because he's got a nice "sports" car or bike, your gonna let him off a warning? But if he's in something "rice," fuck em? Some people definately deserve tickets. Rice is a '92 civic hatch with the interior gutted (and not replaced), a coffee can muffler, roof scoop, and neons. Oh yeah... can't forget all the stickers that add horsepower too. A TT 94 supra that runs 12's or a TT 350Z, although you would never catch me dead in either one, are not rice. About the BMW drivers... I work along I86 which is the primary route to/from Watkins Glen International Raceway... all kinds of car clubs race there... I meet plenty of Porsche and M3 drivers who think that speed limits don't apply to those with expensive cars... Those are the people I take great pride in writing. BTW... I don't let everyone off... I have written 1 mustang driver and 1 camaro driver... both kids tried to run from me. Tip from LE... If you're going to run... make sure you know the roads better than the cop... don't try to run down a road that only has one other exit... it makes it too easy to catch you ;)

haha that's a great discription Trooper, There's way to many fruitloops runnin round here with there moms ol civic, chopped off str8 pipe. rollin on stock 13's. :laughingr ...As far as running from cops. in my area....even if you do out run em 9 outta 10 times the cop will be waiting for you when you get home....I've seen it happen with cars and bikes alike...bad ass out runnin the law, then comes a knock at yer door during supper time....ooooops!

FAWK Speeders , why not get the other idiots that cant drive to save their lives .. i almost saw a guy on a harlet today get rammed up the ass with a toyota 4runner .. because he didnt jump at the light .. and wrong or right if that guy got hit i woulda dragged his ass outta his 4runner and beat the shit outta him ... stop paying attention to sport bikes or all bikes who am i kidding and nail the FAWKERS that dont drive . talk on the phone , put make up on , and just plain out dont drive like your supposed to be . drive with me in the morning to work and ill point out at least a dozen people who shouldnt be driving ... wheres the cop when ya need on then ??? huh ? i had to vent im sick and tired of the arseholes that i have to drive with in traffic to all you assholes who cant drive :2hard :2hard :2hard :2hard

Difference between Ricers and Racers and why I think cops may not like Ricers just a lil more than they don't like Racers. To me, there is nothing wrong with being either cause in the end, whatever floats your boat ya know? Moving along.... Ricers care mainly about looks and saving money. Because of this, you will find things like Ricers drilling holes in their mufflers to make it sound like they have a performance exhaust when really they have just taken performance away. They also cut down their stock springs to get the dropped look even though it throws the whole car's handling out the window and endanges everyone around them as they illegally race up and down industrial streets. You might also see things like spinner hubcaps and LED window washer nozzles since they were super cheap. Racers care mainly about performance and will usually "pay the price to make the mic sound nice." The result is that they usually mod up their vehicles with performance in mind. Ask yourself this question to see if you are a ricer or a racer... Do LED window washer nozzles add performance? Do drilling holes in your stock muffler add performance? Do cutting stock springs and spinner hubcaps add performance? Foot Note: When it comes to gutting your cars interior. That is not rice. Thats what you gotta do if you trying to lighten up the chasis. just my 2cents :cool:

It also discourages people from asking you for a ride =) I know when I took my car to the track I took like 2 months to put my interior back in it.. But I shampooed all the carpets and cleaned it all really good

that is so fdup!

I have to agree and disagree at the same time. This is based on the simple fact that some people, remember cops are people, are dicks and some are cool. Dick: I was racing down the city in good ole philly philly. We where on a back road which only trucks use during the week and this was sat night. Well i am on the wrong side of the road and the guy i am racing is on the other side. We take off and are off to see who gets the bragging rights at the end. Out of no where a cop pulls around the corner (at the end on the road: us racing towards him) with his lights. I am thinking #$^ then start to slow down and merge into the right lane where my buddy is. My buddy slowed down faster then me so i pulled in front of him and we are both slowing down in the right lane. Mind you i say slowing down but we are still considered speeding. I was braking hard when the cops (from head on) turns from his left lane and starts coming head on at us at a 45degree angle-ish. Now mind you he is closing the gap between his front bumper and the curb to my right quickly. He got so close that i was forced to hit the throttle and pull between him and the curb. His bumper no lie was about 5-6 inches from my bike. I was so freaked out. Needless you say i just kept going and he never caught me. My intention was to stop but he almost killed me ! Good cop : (Just today this happened) Quick story. I go past a hidden cop doing 90mph in a 50 zone. He lets me go with a plate violation. Could I see a cop pulling out in front of a biker, with my experience, yes. Does it happen often ? I think not.

PLEASE be careful if you see police, they're starting to pull out in front of speeding bikes because notoriously bikes run away from, and subsequently get away from the cops. Another rider was telling me about two "accidents" in the past month. The first was active duty enlisted soldier in Hawaii. He was riding on the highway when a police officer pulled out in front of him. The next was a warrant officer in Florida who had a state trooper pull out in front of him. Both of them hit the police car and died. Of course both cops got off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist for what should have been manslaughter charges. fuck that people should sew the police departments, state governing body, and the fucking pigs them selfs... for wrong full deth, and what ever else they can muster up... that is totaly negligance :2hard :2hard :2hard :2hard :2hard Edit: its not like speeding is a felony, and how do the asshole pigs know they would have run :2hard

That's what a kid thought on his 05 1000 last summer.... July 31st to be specific... Passed me at 89, I got caught up to him and lit him up... he left radar range at 130mph but was obviously scared of his bike because I kept up with him down the highway (CV's are good for maybe 135 with the lightbar and all the crap we pile in them). I shut it down after he took to a road I wasn't familiar with but he dumped the bike just after I terminated. His BAC was .12 and his GF was on the back of the bike. No damage to the bike... he leaned left she leaned right, dumped the bike in the grass at a T intersection. I'll post the dash cam as soon as the tape is back from being evidence at a trial I just testified for today. BTW... Had he not run... I was going to tell him to slow down and check out his bike... just like I do with sports car (rice does not equate to sports car) drivers I stop. see this is a cool cop... i always stop if i see them pull out after i go buy i know that it is usually for me... most of the time you get, "why didnt you run?" my reply is "its not worth it" and they usually let you off pretty easy ;)

fuck that people should sew the police departments, state governing body, and the fucking pigs them selfs... for wrong full deth, and what ever else they can muster up... that is totaly negligance :2hard :2hard :2hard :2hard :2hard Edit: its not like speeding is a felony, and how do the asshole pigs know they would have run :2hard Umm... fleeing is a felony in several states. Not saying pulling in front of someone is a wise decision but if riders weren't notorious for fleeing LE's tactics might be diffrent.

Umm... fleeing is a felony in several states. Not saying pulling in front of someone is a wise decision but if riders weren't notorious for fleeing LE's tactics might be diffrent. right i know that but if you read a little closer i said that SPEEDING is not a felony.. so you have to use deadly force to stop a speeder that might run :infrandom :headscrat :hmmm: um i think not :2hard

right i know that but if you read a little closer i said that SPEEDING is not a felony.. so you have to use deadly force to stop a speeder that might run :infrandom :headscrat :hmmm: um i think not :2hard I have a perfect film for this, I didnt see this post but if you look at the one I just put up it shows a cop using his car to stop a bike. http://www.gsxr.com/showthread.php?t=20367

so i guess it is ok to just think that a non felony speeder will run.. so you can use deadly force on motorcycles speeding??? just because some run??? i never run, do i speed? yes im sure we all do from time to time.. am i a felon??? no!!!! LEO are there to INFORCE the the law, they are not THE LAW OR ABOVE IT all tho some (many feel they are :2hard ) why dont you just get out of the car and start shooting at all speeders??? they could run!!! this is a post from a nother message board about how this dood got FUCKED BY A PIG!!! :2hard First I would like to give a big thanks to the schmucks that ran from the cops in Putnam yesterday afternoon. Who ever you were you were on a red bike and there was a green bike with no visible plate with you. Now, how would I know this you may wonder? Because on my way home from work around 4:30 PM pulling onto maple street in Danielson on my RED ducati a black dodge intrepid with tinted windows and RI plates tails me, so close if I had a passenger on the back they could have touched the hood. Long story short this car follows me to RT6 where I pick up a little speed and put a few cars between us. I then proceed to head home down RT12. Well I make it to my house and about half way up my 250' driveway I see that damn black car come shooting up, then I hear the damn siren and lights go ripping. I'm like "here we go"................ Next, some wanna-be "Dog the bounty hunter" jumps out and proceeds to ask if I had fun running from the cops in Putnam, to be followed with "Your going to jail, your an asshole, your license is history". To which I tell them they have the wrong guy. But they didn't wanna hear any part of that and tough guy seemed to enjoy yelling at me at the top of his lungs, while of course I'm having trouble not laughing because this is such a screw up it's not even funny. Next, the captain comes in to ID me, he then tells them I'm not the guy because the riders that ran were in T-shirts. I of course in the 90° heat am in a leather jacket, helmet and gloves. You would think that would be the end of it but hell no, they get me for reckless driving, speeding (in a school zone, nice touch), and unsafe lane change ( I must mention I signaled with my blinker AND my hand but I guess one hand is unsafe???). The bottom line is, they picked the wrong guy, looked like f'ing idiots in front of their boss and decided to throw the book at me. Heads are going to roll for this, it's a pure example of abuse of power and ROID rage from the "tough guy" copper. I must give credit to his partner though as he was very calm and capable of asking questions in a human way. I haven't been pulled over in 8+ years, 100% clean record, married 28 year old. I can't wait to goto court. That and I'm considering a formal compliant against the dept. /Rant Off

I have a perfect film for this, I didnt see this post but if you look at the one I just put up it shows a cop using his car to stop a bike. http://www.gsxr.com/showthread.php?t=20367 and you wounder why people hate the fucking police :2hard

Who told you this??? I really wouldn't trust 3rd hand information like this if I were you. I highly doubt police officers are pulling out in front of motorcyclists on purpose to try and wreck them. Sorry, but I gotta call BULLSHIT. Maybe an officer and a rider were involved in an accident where the rider died, but how do you know the officer intentionally pulled out in front of him?? Sounds like typical BS rumors that aren't true. I can tell you as an officer, that if I pulled out in front of a rider who was killed, not only would I be charged with misdemeanor death by vehicle, but I would lose my job and get sued for everything I own. I think you got some bad info. :thumbup: Anyways, ride safe. can you elaborate how there is a misdemeanor charge for killing someone by mistake?? isnt that involuntary manslaughter, which is a felony?

yeah i saw a video on youtube of a cop pulling out in front of a speeding bike in another country. the rider went flying and then all the other riders surrounded the cop car and started kicking the crap out of it. the rider was pretty banged up and the cops were too scared to get out of their cars. i saw another video of a cop hitting a bike that was running from the cops. after he hit the rider the cop was way more concerned about his car rather than the well being of the rider. then the cop goes and lies about what he did even though it was all caught on his dashboard camera.

Rice is a '92 civic hatch with the interior gutted (and not replaced), a coffee can muffler, roof scoop, and neons. Oh yeah... can't forget all the stickers that add horsepower too. A TT 94 supra that runs 12's or a TT 350Z, although you would never catch me dead in either one, are not rice. About the BMW drivers... I work along I86 which is the primary route to/from Watkins Glen International Raceway... all kinds of car clubs race there... I meet plenty of Porsche and M3 drivers who think that speed limits don't apply to those with expensive cars... Those are the people I take great pride in writing. BTW... I don't let everyone off... I have written 1 mustang driver and 1 camaro driver... both kids tried to run from me. Tip from LE... If you're going to run... make sure you know the roads better than the cop... don't try to run down a road that only has one other exit... it makes it too easy to catch you ;) Nice, so you give tickets more on what they drive and who they are as opposed to the offense? So your telling me a man in a dodge viper speeds past you one day, you pull him over, check out his car, chit-chat and let him off with a warning (because he's in a sports car) while say the same guy were to take out his "rice" honda do the same thing, and when you pull him over, you'll give him a ticket? Sure as hell shows your biased. I'm just glad you actually like bikes, or else we'd all be in hell because you just can't stand "crotch rockets." That's just profiling. Thats like chevy vs ford. That's just lovely to know, if I wanna speed, I have a better chance of catching a break as long as my car isn't "rice" and a true sports (ameriacn) car. Sounds to me like these citations are based off more from emotion rather than actual offense. It's obvious you hate anything other than American cars (do I really need to point it out?). If your gonna show bias. Why don't you pull over every lumbering SUV, whether it be speeding, going to slow (on the fucking phone) or can't stay in its lane. Thats fucking over 4000lbs on wheels of death. I rather have that asshole in his 911 porsche hauling ass then a fucking prick on the cellphone in his fucking navigator who's a far more greater danger on the road. Isn't that far more deserving of a ticket then giving someone who makes more than 6 figures a year who tends to drive his "sportscar" fast? Nice to know we have fair cops out on the streets that are doing their job.

Nice, so you give tickets more on what they drive and who they are as opposed to the offense? So your telling me a man in a dodge viper speeds past you one day, you pull him over, check out his car, chit-chat and let him off with a warning (because he's in a sports car) while say the same guy were to take out his "rice" honda do the same thing, and when you pull him over, you'll give him a ticket? Sure as hell shows your biased. I'm just glad you actually like bikes, or else we'd all be in hell because you just can't stand "crotch rockets." That's just profiling. Thats like chevy vs ford. That's just lovely to know, if I wanna speed, I have a better chance of catching a break as long as my car isn't "rice" and a true sports (ameriacn) car. Sounds to me like these citations are based off more from emotion rather than actual offense. It's obvious you hate anything other than American cars (do I really need to point it out?). If your gonna show bias. Why don't you pull over every lumbering SUV, whether it be speeding, going to slow (on the fucking phone) or can't stay in its lane. Thats fucking over 4000lbs on wheels of death. I rather have that asshole in his 911 porsche hauling ass then a fucking prick on the cellphone in his fucking navigator who's a far more greater danger on the road. Isn't that far more deserving of a ticket then giving someone who makes more than 6 figures a year who tends to drive his "sportscar" fast? Nice to know we have fair cops out on the streets that are doing their job. First may I suggest a physics class if you think the 'lumbering' 5800 lb Escalade on the phone is more dangerous than the speeding 3100 lb 911. I'd much rather be hit by a 5800 lb vehicle doing 60 and talking on the phone than I would by a 3100 lb vehicle doing 120. Second, I ticket those who talk themselves into tickets. I stop plenty of people... am I more inclined to ticket a young punk kid who thinks his shit doesn't stink and I'm just 'harassing him' because he has 400 hp worth of vinyl and bondo on his car, than I am a middle aged man who is very respectful and admits that he was speeding in his nice new toy that lets him relive his youth? I guess I'd have to say I'm more inclined to write the prick with the attitude. BTW... EVERY radar detector I see get's ticketed for everything I can find on the vehicle... I don't care if it's some little old lady on her way to church (equal treatment there wouldn't you say?). If I hit the transmit button on my remote and your brakes automaticly light up... guess what... your Early Ticket Warning Device is working properly and we type tickets on a computer now so whacking someone with 3 or 4 tickets is simply a couple more mouse clicks and little longer wait for all the tickets to print out.

can you elaborate how there is a misdemeanor charge for killing someone by mistake?? isnt that involuntary manslaughter, which is a felony? Well...........if one was to intentionally pull out in front of a rider to cause an accident it would be voluntary manslaugter or depending on circumstances you could get 2nd degree murder (if the biker was running at a high speed and you pulled on out purpose which would most likely cause death)............If one were to pull out in front of a rider by total accident because they weren't paying attention.......the charge would only be a misdemeanor.

horrible shit... FTP! i remember seeing a video on uponone.com when a guy in a group pulls away in a wheelie and a pigmobile pulls up in front of him and nails it dead-on... can anyone find this vid? I'd rather not see the video and instead direct my thoughts and energy in saying, "Let's exert some extra caution out there on the road and let's try and not become de-sensitized to the dangers around us." :bike: It is too easy to become almost invincible as if nothing could ever happen. BE SAFE GUYS AND GALS - we must live long and hold each other up! :thumbup:

In texas you don't pull out in front of anyone unless you are DPS. And that is a big maybe cause they will just shoot your ass if they feel you are a danger to an innocent third person. But as far as chasing, those who run make all of us look bad. Including myself. I have been pulled over for just riding myself. I have been followed for just riding. The reason why is the dumb asses who run is why we all have a bad reputation. Don't do anything wrong and there will not be a problem. If you are not guilty of anything why run??? Right. And yes I am a police Officer in Texas. nailed it why run what are you hiding

thats just wrong, my brother is a cop but nothing like that, he's probably one of the coolest cops to get pulled over by...to the other cops, :fu:

In texas ....I have been followed for just riding. Why let them follow you and have the time to work up a reason to pull you over? If I'm being followed more than a couple turns, I just stop in a parking lot or something. Then they have to make a quick decision that they may not be prepared to make (no excuse made yet)...either turn on the blues or keep driving. I'll pull into somebody's driveway if that's all that is around. I will not be followed. I can only imagine what would happen if an officer INTENTIONALLY killed a motorcyclist by pulling out in front of him. Easy one there....he'd deny that it was intentional.

Why let them follow you and have the time to work up a reason to pull you over? If I'm being followed more than a couple turns, I just stop in a parking lot or something. Then they have to make a quick decision that they may not be prepared to make (no excuse made yet)...either turn on the blues or keep driving. I'll pull into somebody's driveway if that's all that is around. I will not be followed. +1

Who told you this??? I really wouldn't trust 3rd hand information like this if I were you. I highly doubt police officers are pulling out in front of motorcyclists on purpose to try and wreck them. Sorry, but I gotta call BULLSHIT. Maybe an officer and a rider were involved in an accident where the rider died, but how do you know the officer intentionally pulled out in front of him?? Sounds like typical BS rumors that aren't true. I can tell you as an officer, that if I pulled out in front of a rider who was killed, not only would I be charged with misdemeanor death by vehicle, but I would lose my job and get sued for everything I own. I think you got some bad info. :thumbup: Anyways, ride safe. yeah, it's always easy to deny conspiracies. i talked to a wife of a nc state trooper who said that they do this. her husband killed a biker who was running. now that's pretty close to being there, eh? i'll try to get the details the next time i see her and she isn't busy working... i call your "bullshit-call" bullshit!:fu:

yeah, it's always easy to deny conspiracies. i talked to a wife of a nc state trooper who said that they do this. her husband killed a biker who was running. now that's pretty close to being there, eh? i'll try to get the details the next time i see her and she isn't busy working... i call your bullshit call bullshit!:fu: If you want to do the right thing, you'll get a recorder and get the conversation on tape...make extra copies, and turn one in to the FBI or other agency. Your not turning it in could lead to criminal charges against you.

FAWK Speeders , why not get the other idiots that cant drive to save their lives .. + 1,000,000 :clap:

F*ck cops- I don't trust cops like I don't trust terriost....wait, to me they are the same.

F*ck cops- I don't trust cops like I don't trust terriost....wait, to me they are the same. I don't trust them either. I'm sure there's some good ones out there, but I haven't met them yet.

It's a shame, that's why I do all my racing on the track!

It's a shame, that's why I do all my racing on the track! The closest track to my house is probably 4-5hrs away. It sucks being about 30mins from Deals Gap. :lol:

i have never had a cop turn its lights on for me....but i have had a number of them pull in front of me and slam on the brakes....:fu: popo...... my friend just crashed this way about 2 months ago and was in the hospital for a month... unfortunately my friend didnt have an endorsement and also had weed on him but the cop kept it my friend is still somewhat at fault though.... south florida cops are dirty as hell

i have never had a cop turn its lights on for me....but i have had a number of them pull in front of me and slam on the brakes....:fu: popo...... my friend just crashed this way about 2 months ago and was in the hospital for a month... If that were me, that cop would leave his house for work one morning and meet a baseball bat to the back of the head before he got to his car. :arsenal I'll take a ticket when I'm at fault, but doing what you said above could easily be called assault with a deadly weapon, attempted vehicular homicide. If you or I did that, we'd be charged with it. Cops may be above the law, but I got a baseball bat that is too.

+1 on the other hand, if your dumb ass runs and manges to get on the news making sportbike riders look bad...fuck it, you deserve anything bad coming to you. + 1 WITH BOTH OF THE ABOVE STATEMENT I'M ALSO A POLICE OFFICER AND WE DON'T DO THAT CRAP........ AND I WON'T DEFEND ORFIND IT COOL TO RUN FOR THE POLICE ON A BIKE AND THINK YOUR AWSOME, UT GET HIT ON A BIKE BY A COP BY MISTAKE AND THE BIKER WAS INNOCENT.... SORRY GUYS I JUST DON'T AGREE...... NOW IF THEY ARE REALLY DOING THIS ON PURPOSE ( WHICH I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE ) THEN THEY SHOULD BE FIRED, PRISON, SUED, AND ALL OF THE ABOVE.....

F*ck cops- I don't trust cops like I don't trust terriost....wait, to me they are the same. I'M SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY YOU MUST HAVE ALOT OF BAD EXPERIENCES WITH THEM IN THE PAST AND FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU THINK THEY ARE COMPARED TO THAT YOU MUST LIVE IN A PRETTY CORRUPTABLE CITY.... OR YOU JUST RUN INTO THE TRUE DICKS WITH A BADGE..... BUT TO CALL THEM TERRORIST I'M SORRY I'VE MET PEOPLE IN EVERY PROFESSION GIRLS/GUYS THAT ARE REALLY SHIT ASSES, AND NO CLASS AND SOME I'M SORRY TO SAY ARE COPS BUT I'VE ALSO MET SOME REALLY COOL PEOPLE. BUT I'M MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH THE PEOPLE THAT USUAL JUST TOTALLY HATE THE POLICE IS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE IDIOTS THAT DRIVE UNDER THE INFLUENCE, OR ACT LIKE IDIOTS ON THE ROAD AND THINK THEY ARE EXEMPT... I'M NOT SAYING YOU ARE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE, BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK THIS FOR A PRETTY STRONG REASON, BUT WHATEVER THAT IS ISN'T MY BUISNESS BUT WHAT YOU SAID IS WAY OFF BASE.....

+ 1 WITH BOTH OF THE ABOVE STATEMENT I'M ALSO A POLICE OFFICER AND WE DON'T DO THAT CRAP........ AND I WON'T DEFEND ORFIND IT COOL TO RUN FOR THE POLICE ON A BIKE AND THINK YOUR AWSOME, UT GET HIT ON A BIKE BY A COP BY MISTAKE AND THE BIKER WAS INNOCENT.... SORRY GUYS I JUST DON'T AGREE...... NOW IF THEY ARE REALLY DOING THIS ON PURPOSE ( WHICH I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE ) THEN THEY SHOULD BE FIRED, PRISON, SUED, AND ALL OF THE ABOVE..... You may be one of the few "good cops." ....but do you really think that the bad cops are going to tell you all the bad stuff they do? That's like going to church and cussing in front of the preacher. I don't understand why it is that you can so easily defend a cop that you never knew, in a situation that we know next to nothing about. Just as we can't guarantee that, in this situation, the cop intended to hit the rider, you can't guarantee that he didn't. There's just no way to know for sure, based on an internet post.

You may be one of the few "good cops." ....but do you really think that the bad cops are going to tell you all the bad stuff they do? That's like going to church and cussing in front of the preacher. I don't understand why it is that you can so easily defend a cop that you never knew, in a situation that we know next to nothing about. Just as we can't guarantee that, in this situation, the cop intended to hit the rider, you can't guarantee that he didn't. There's just no way to know for sure, based on an internet post. THIS IS TRUE BUT IN THE SAME REGARD I CAN'T BASH THE COPS ON THE SAME LITTLE BIT OF INFO THAT MAY BE FALSE EITHER........

THIS IS TRUE BUT IN THE SAME REGARD I CAN'T BASH THE COPS ON THE SAME LITTLE BIT OF INFO THAT MAY BE FALSE EITHER........ Understandable, but keep in mind that nobody's really asking you to. We fully understand that you may have nothing to do with any events like this, and we hope you do not in the future. Probably the best cops are the ones that ride motorcycles.

F*ck cops- I don't trust cops like I don't trust terriost....wait, to me they are the same. :stfu:

Understandable, but keep in mind that nobody's really asking you to. We fully understand that you may have nothing to do with any events like this, and we hope you do not in the future. Probably the best cops are the ones that ride motorcycles. FAIR ENOUGH :thumbup:

I was told yesterday that a law was passed here in Florida that would allow leo's to ram bikes that failed to stop. This is kind of contradictory to the "do not pursuit" policy in effect previously.... Anyone know anything about this???

I was told yesterday that a law was passed here in Florida that would allow leo's to ram bikes that failed to stop. This is kind of contradictory to the "do not pursuit" policy in effect previously.... Anyone know anything about this??? My guess is that the AMA would know something about it. I think they often get involved in political things like this. You can't believe everything you hear, but... if they did, that means that EVADING arrest is now seen as probable cause to commit vehicular homicide and/or assault with a deadly weapon. Nice...somebody is fleeing, showing no signs of agression, yet it's seen somehow as defending yourself to run over them. :headscrat If a cop tried to run me over, they'd likely wind up with returned aggression. :arsenal

A state police trooper whose out-of-control cruiser killed a motorcyclist on a winding York County road will not be charged with vehicular homicide, the York County District Attorney's office announced today. Called to investigate the accident involving Trooper Gerald Devlin and the motorcyclist, the DA's office decided to charge Devlin only with reckless driving, driving at an unsafe speed and failure to drive on the right side of the road, all summary offenses. The crash occurred on Route 851 in Codorus Township around 5 p.m. March 29, 1998. Devlin had turned his cruiser around to pursue a car that had no inspection sticker. Shortly after turning around, Devlin crashed head-on with a motorcycle driven by 39-year-old Kenneth Saunders Fowler, of Monkton, Md. "I don't think anything would be gained by charging the trooper," District Attorney Stan Rebert said. "It was a terrible tragedy; he was doing his job but he exercised extremely poor judgment, and Mr. Fowler was killed." Two weeks ago, state police investigators turned over their preliminary findings to the DA's office. Rebert's office investigated the accident while state police conducted a "parallel, internal investigation," Rebert said. The results of that investigation are expected soon, he said. An accident reconstruction revealed Devlin was speeding at the point of impact, driving 58 mph in a 45 mph zone, just south of the Route 516 intersection. The curve has 30 mph yellow warning signs, but those signs are only a warning and are not enforceable speed limits, police said. The yellow warning sign facing Devlin's direction of travel, in the westbound lane, had been missing for more than a year. The car that was being pursued has not been located. :hmmm: so when the cops break the "warning speed signs" they dont get into trouble for speeding....but we do :hmmm: I have nothing against police personally, I realize they are here to protect and serve.. but something more should be done to certain ones that endanger motorcyclists and anyone else

:hmmm: so when the cops break the "warning speed signs" they dont get into trouble for speeding....but we do :hmmm: I have nothing against police personally, I realize they are here to protect and serve.. but something more should be done to certain ones that endanger motorcyclists and anyone else You got to read the article... it wasn't a speed limit sign. It was one of the yellow warning signs, like they have on interstate on-ramps and in many curves. They're not enforcable, even on us citizens. However...I still think that the charge is a bit light, since the issue that caused death was him being out of his lane. If it were you or me, we'd have been charged with vehicular homicide. Somehow, if you're drunk and do something like that (killing somebody), it's vehicular homicide....yet if you're a sober cop, it's different. :headscrat The problem here is that cops often look after their own...even when they're wrong in doing so. The line between right and wrong NEVER changes, reguardless of who you are and which side of that line you are on.

cops in south florida are dirty as hell...... everyday down the street from me i see cops stopping and searching random kids near the 7-11... in my city they will search you for drugs and then keep for personal use...this has happened to sooo many people in my neighborhood... i dont carry or do drugs but ive been stopped for just jogging on 2 separate occasions..fortunately for myself i know my rights :thefinger

cops in south florida are dirty as hell...... everyday down the street from me i see cops stopping and searching random kids near the 7-11... in my city they will search you for drugs and then keep for personal use...this has happened to sooo many people in my neighborhood... i dont carry or do drugs but ive been stopped for just jogging on 2 separate occasions..fortunately for myself i know my rights :thefinger You got that right. Maybe not all of them but quite a few. I was personally involved in an incident with the FHP. It was a TC in wich one of their off duty seargeants, black female, hit my leg with the bumper of her car in a turnpike parking lot. As I went down, I pounded my fist into her hood with my huge wad of keys. It became verbal and she left and I left. Next thing I know, I'm heading for the Lake Worth toll plaza and the woman in her red nissan is following me talking on a radio. I get to the toll, pay, and ask for the toll operator to call FHP. Allready hearing a siren in the distance. Could see him coming northbound in the oposite direction. I proceed thru the toll, put on my turn signal look over my shoulder and see all three toll lanes to my right are clear and proceed to pull over to the shoulder. As I reach the shoulder, I was t-bonned by the cruiser, that I suspect made a u-turn and came back south after me. He hit me at about 50-60mph. If anyone was in my car, they would have been dead. Turned into a zoo out there, the FHP headquarters is right there at the rest stop before the plaza. Turns out the female that hit me in the parking lot was a 12 year seargeant with the FHP. She had revved her car as I was crossing like saying "get the fuck out of my way" and I stopped like "what are you going to do? Run me over?" and she did. Preagnant, black, female. Lied about the incident. Cruiser that hit me was totalled. Everyone that made a report, lied or omited facts. I was not injured so my lawyer dropped the case. FHP in Florida = Corrupt MF's. My background so you LEO's don't think I'm some punk ass: I am 43, married 22 years, three children, business owner, no priors, no arrests, no traffic tickets. Watch yourself out here....

Not taking a side on "run" or "don't run" issue, but why the hell would anyone buy one of the world's best handing, fastest production motorcycles and then post some idiotic line like, "if you're not doing anything wrong...?" Fuck, if you are going to do the speed limit all the time, (first gear on a GSXR 1000 around here) then why not buy a moped or a Harly? Or am I really supposed to believe that most of the people on this board are buying GSXRs to go to church every Sunday while never going faster than the law allows? I will call "bullshit" on THAT one. And by the way, if you are going to ride the speed limit on the highways around here in St. Louis, please stay in the far right hand lane. Even then you will get run down from behind by some little old lady in a Hunday who really is going to church. Tim

Not taking a side on "run" or "don't run" issue, but why the hell would anyone buy one of the world's best handing, fastest production motorcycles and then post some idiotic line like, "if you're not doing anything wrong...?" Fuck, if you are going to do the speed limit all the time, (first gear on a GSXR 1000 around here) then why not buy a moped or a Harly? Or am I really supposed to believe that most of the people on this board are buying GSXRs to go to church every Sunday while never going faster than the law allows? I will call "bullshit" on THAT one. And by the way, if you are going to ride the speed limit on the highways around here in St. Louis, please stay in the far right hand lane. Even then you will get run down from behind by some little old lady in a Hunday who really is going to church. Tim You are missing the point. Of course people will go fast. There are responsible (though illegal) ways to do this. The question is how to react once you get caught breaking the law. I feel that running is for criminals. If you want at the very least, a criminal record, then run. Worst case scennario is what you have seen posted around the web as a result of high velocity impact. It is not worth the risk. Also, riding at 150mph on the freeways is irresponsible and punishable by heavy fines. Why do it when there are race tracks where you can race. Reasonable speeding to me would be 100mph. Very carefully. Just be ready to pull over and deal with the consequences of your actions instead of running, giving all riders a bad name and risking everyone on the road. As far as lane placement, why ride in any lane but the left lane and slightly faster than the flow of traffic. It is the safest way to run the slab.

100 MPH is reasonable, but 150 isn't? Okay, how about 125, or 110; what's a few MPH between friends? For me, if you ride in such a way as to put other people at risk I don't care what your speed is, you are not being responsible. We have some nice roads around here where there may be as many bicycles as motorcycles on a nice Sat morning. Blazing down those roads, even at just slightly over the speed limit while leaning deep into the bike lane, is just wrong. Oddly enough, I rarely see a cop on any of those roads. On the other hand I got stopped for doing 78 in a 65, light traffic, brand new 5-lane highway, I was safer than a man sitting in church and no one was at risk. None the less one of the city's finest, riding his custom made and equipped police car, "earning" his wage, did his sworn duty to protect the citizens from the scourge of little old me just heading off to do a little flight training. (Mind you, I live in the city ranked NO 1 for violent crime in the US.) Ride down 64 on the last Saturday of the month, (I know, I know, there are no quotas) and you will see as many as 10 or 12 cop cars in as many miles. Who do they have pulled over? SUVs, Vans, an occasional sedan, (oddly enough, not so many pick-up trucks.) Soccer Moms and minorities, people picked out of the pack at random to justify the traffic cop's budget. So for now I'll stick with my opinion that traffic enforcement is the biggest routine waste of taxpayer's money around. Not only are traffic cops not really doing anything useful, traffic enforcement sucks up resources that are needed in other places. Tim

So for now I'll stick with my opinion that traffic enforcement is the biggest routine waste of taxpayer's money around. Not only are traffic cops not really doing anything useful, traffic enforcement sucks up resources that are needed in other places. I live pretty close to Deals Gap. The Tennessee side is in Blount County. Most of the population is not very near the Gap, so patrolling there is pretty much just for traffic. Recently, when gas prices rose, the sheriff wanted to get more money for his budget. When he didn't get it, he swore that he no longer had money for any patroling, and that they'd leave the station only when called out. After about three months of that, he decided that he could no longer afford to do that....because they weren't getting any income from traffic tickets. So what happens then? Well, he takes his anger out on the public. Since he couldn't get the money through the political means, he upped the numbers of tickets given to the taxpayers. Nice, huh?

Everyone that made a report, lied or omited facts. I was not injured so my lawyer dropped the case. FHP in Florida = Corrupt MF's. My background so you LEO's don't think I'm some punk ass: I am 43, married 22 years, three children, business owner, no priors, no arrests, no traffic tickets. Watch yourself out here.... I don't doubt at all that the police lied and/or omitted facts from your accident. Like any other organizations, they almost always stick together and would have no problem lying in the name of commeraderie. I posted a while back of an incident where two SFPD officers pulled my friend and I over and took off with our wallets. It was such a callus move on their part that it left my friend and I stunned. I mean, who the hell thought they would be robbed by cops, of all people??? Of course, when we went to the station and attempted to file a complaint, we were greeted with hostility from the Sergeant. He was quite defensive, and told us to leave or he'll throw us in jail. What really pissed me off was what he had said - that they wouldn't do such a thing, and even if they did, we probably deserved it. There are some good cops out there, but when you run into the bad ones, it really leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

tape recorders can work wonders. I now carry one in the car with me at all times. It stays in the drivers door pocket. All I gotta do is reach down and hit record. I'm waiting for the day I get to have some POS cop's job taken from him. :rofl:

You're right, studies have shown that the cameras to increase accidents. Ever notice how the yellow light is shorter when they install cameras? The interesting thing is that they want YOU to call and ask for a hearing. That's absolutely against the rules of court. It's THEIR job to serve you papers ("legal process") and give you notice of a hearing...not your job to ask for it. Not only that, but when the letter is sent regular usps, there's no evidence that proves you even got that letter. The letters in this state say that if you don't notify them and ask for a hearing, that the fine goes up to something like $67. Personally, I'd rather pay them $67 and make them actually have to work for the money, than to just hand over $50. Fuck em!! "A friend" of mine got one of those letters, and threw it away...and hasn't heard anything about it since. :hmmm:

:hmmm: so when the cops break the "warning speed signs" they dont get into trouble for speeding....but we do :hmmm: I have nothing against police personally, I realize they are here to protect and serve.. but something more should be done to certain ones that endanger motorcyclists and anyone else as far as i know there are speed limits for a reason but for the world of it i cant understand why cops dont have to obay what just because they have flashing lights and a big motor? now if i have both of them can i speed when ever i want ?? i mean rules are rules and they are not ment to be broken also jow can you be sitting at a red light a cop pulles up mext to you and just happens to turn his light and siren on to go threw the light for no reason and then right after he gets threw the light he turns then off i dont get it:2up :damn:

also jow can you be sitting at a red light a cop pulles up mext to you and just happens to turn his light and siren on to go threw the light for no reason and then right after he gets threw the light he turns then off i dont get it:2up :damn: ...and if you called in his cruiser number to complain, they'd say that he was on a call, but had reason not to use siren or lights.

You're right, studies have shown that the cameras to increase accidents. Ever notice how the yellow light is shorter when they install cameras? :lol: You're not kidding there. My brother received a ticket last year for going through one of those intersections. He was just going to not fight and pay. I said, "No. Go back out there at the same day, same time, and record the time of the yellow signal. If it doesn't match with the posted speed & distance of intersection, fight it". Well, he did exactly that, and won. They porposely shorten the yellow just so they could catch more vehicles "running red". Not this time. :lol:

There is NO way that shit happens INTENTIONALLY. Dont wanna have a problem with cops? Obey the fucking law......Too many people cry about corruption, when nine out of ten times its higher up then the police...Some of these bikers have no one to blame but themselves. Bad shit happens when you run from the cops.... And to the guy who said his CO told him these stories and that she read them in Army times....Army times is bullshit, just like any other media. And whats your MOS with a female CO?

Dont wanna have a problem with cops? Obey the fucking law......Too many people cry about corruption, when nine out of ten times its higher up then the police... Are you another cop? Looks like you've been lucky enough to not be the victim of harrassment by cops. Are so ignorant to believe that's the case with everybody else? How many times do people post up about a corrupt cop that arrested them for something they did? Isn't it usually somebody complaining that they got in trouble for something they didn't do?

Nah, not another cop...Brother in law is an Ohio statey though. Ya know what though? Ive gotten ONE ticket since I was 16, and Im almost 21....And Ive been riding sport bikes for two years, and had an LT1 Trans Am since I Was 16. Thats funny.....I have never been tricked, or given a ticket I "didnt deserve" because I stay the hell out of thier radar, I dont fuck around, they dont bother me. The same goes with ALL of my friends too...The ones who constantly speed and do stupid shit, get busted for it, and say the cop "fucked them over" There are road laws, follow them, or you will get a ticket. Now, this isnt to say SOME cops are fucking pricks....Because there def. is prick cops out there....But I dont think they'd be big enough assholes to intentionally pull out in front of a bike....

Now, this isnt to say SOME cops are fucking pricks....Because there def. is prick cops out there....But I dont think they'd be big enough assholes to intentionally pull out in front of a bike.... All it takes is one, and we have no way of knowing if that one exists...no matter how good you've had it with cops in the past. We've not dealt with every one, and even if we did, it could have been on a good day for them.

[QUOTE=twok3gt;309369]There is NO way that shit happens INTENTIONALLY. Dont wanna have a problem with cops? Obey the fucking law [QUOTE] Maybe where you live. Come down to South Beach, Miami, ride with a few friends on sportbikes enough and you will think differently.

How many times do people post up about a corrupt cop that arrested them for something they did? Isn't it usually somebody complaining that they got in trouble for something they didn't do? I think alot of these stories going around are BS. Someone starts the slagging match, and everyone else has to join in with a story, true or not, just to fit in! We admit there are sportsbike riders who speed and break the law at some point, so would you consider it fair to be painted with the same brush? One dickhead rides a sportsbike, so all riders must be dickheads then, right? No? Then why do it to cops? These stories are told because people want to believe them, and then paint all cops with the same brush. I've had a run in with a bad cop, but I've also met many, many more good cops. Everything is heresay or bullshit and shouldn't be taken seriously. :cool:

We admit there are sportsbike riders who speed and break the law at some point, so would you consider it fair to be painted with the same brush? One dickhead rides a sportsbike, so all riders must be dickheads then, right? No? Then why do it to cops? Painting with the same brush? Wouldn't that be if we admit that SOME sportbikers are tooksacks, we also should admit that SOME cops are toolsacks also? All these cop-lovers act as if there's no way that a cop could do something wrong. That is, in FACT, bullshit. I've been to jail more for things I didn't do, or because a cop was just pissed off, than I have for things I actually did wrong. The percentage of cops I have run into that were "good cops" make me avoid them all, at nearly any cost. I've met cops that did their job, cut me no slack at all....yet were respectful to me. I can handle that without being upset with them. Be a dick to me though, and I'll be the same to you.

Painting with the same brush? Wouldn't that be if we admit that SOME sportbikers are tooksacks, we also should admit that SOME cops are toolsacks also? You've missed the point. You guys get all upset when a few riders get unnecessary attention from the cops, but you're the first to slag cops when a few cops do the wrong thing by you (from what you guys are saying - which is heresay anyway). And 'do the wrong thing' could be anything in anyone's opinion. You paint them, they paint you, simple. All these cop-lovers act as if there's no way that a cop could do something wrong. That is, in FACT, bullshit. No, I'm not a cop. I've had a run in with one or two bad cops out of thousands here, but I'm constructive in my arguments, and I respect the job they have to do. So long as you demostrate that you are smart, and not a smart-arse, you can get away with anything. I don't pass the time away by whinging about 'bad cops'. I've been to jail more for things I didn't do, or because a cop was just pissed off, than I have for things I actually did wrong. The percentage of cops I have run into that were "good cops" make me avoid them all, at nearly any cost. I've met cops that did their job, cut me no slack at all....yet were respectful to me. I can handle that without being upset with them. Be a dick to me though, and I'll be the same to you. Want to "avoid them all, at nearly any cost"? Then don't break the law, bend the rules, or push your luck. Hell, give up riding altogether then. Simple! If I get caught breaking the law, I know I've done wrong and I cop it on the chin. I swear motorcycling has been overpopulated by whinging pansies! They'd rather cry about it than adjust themselves to the environment. Learn to pick the times and places to 'misbehave'; learn to identify where the cops are at and steer clear of those places; learn to be friendly when you are caught; and if you get a ticket, learn to shut your mouth if you can't be constructive in arguing your way out of one. Opening it can only get you a bigger punishment. I've been riding 18 years, and I've only been nicked once on my TLR with full race gear and other mods, which I've owned for over 4 years. I had an asshole cop nick me for it, but I copped it sweet and moved on. I used the 'system' to my advantage and reported him and got the fine/ticket canceled. I get pulled over all the time, but I greet them with a smile and I get a pass on the "attitude test" every time and they don't even look at my bike twice.

I didn't bother to read all the pages to this thread but In my opinion if you don't want to get hit by the police then don't give them a reason to hit you. If you don't wanna do the time then don't do the crime. Running from the cops is just going to give the honest guys and the actual decent riders a bad name and reputation. If you are speedind and you crash you could not only kill yourself, you could kill someone who is totally innocent. So it is apparent that you don't care for your life or anyone else. If you are so worried about your life or injuries then why are you speeding or running from the cops in the first place? Go to the drag strip or the track. Dumb fucks!

An Ohio State Cop? OHIO! When I ride from St. Louis to Pittsburgh I go south on 64, through Charleston WV to 79 N just to avoid riding in Ohio. I have been rousted in Ohio more than once, and no, I was not speeding or acting stupid - just pulled over and harassed by the pack of mongrels that hangs out on route 70 between Dayton and Columbus. I would rather my sister work in a whore house than my brother be an Ohio State Cop.

I would rather my sister work in a whore house than my brother be an Ohio State Cop. :funny:

You've missed the point. You guys get all upset when a few riders get unnecessary attention from the cops, but you're the first to slag cops when a few cops do the wrong thing by you (from what you guys are saying - which is heresay anyway). There's plenty of threads on the internet forums that are bashing the squids....probably more than there are bashing cops. And 'do the wrong thing' could be anything in anyone's opinion. You paint them, they paint you, simple. We can "paint" them all you want, and it really causes them no harm. When they "paint" us, it results in harrassment. They often violate the laws and PD policies, in order to do this. It is their job to be fair. We have a right to an opinion, just as they do. What they do not have the right to do is harrass us unnecessarily. So long as you demostrate that you are smart, and not a smart-arse, you can get away with anything.[/quote Bullshit. So you got lucky. Isn't it obvious to you that more get harrassed than get lucky? Why don't we see more threads about people like you that get off the hook? BECAUSE IT'S MUCH MORE RARE than those that get harrrassed. [QUOTE=tlr2nv;311233]Want to "avoid them all, at nearly any cost"? Then don't break the law, bend the rules, or push your luck. Hell, give up riding altogether then. Simple! That's fucking bullshit. It's all about luck, what cop you run into, and what mood he's in. If I get caught breaking the law, I know I've done wrong and I cop it on the chin. As do I. You don't hear me complain about the tickets that I earned, do you? I swear motorcycling has been overpopulated by whinging pansies! They'd rather cry about it than adjust themselves to the environment. Is that what this country was founded on..."adapting" rather than changing? Maybe you're too lazy to fight for what's right, so you avoid conflict.

Im an officer and i had another officer from a different deptment do this to me, he cut me off and forced me off the road almost causing me to go down. After i told him who i was he aploigized, and i went about my day.

Im an officer and i had another officer from a different deptment do this to me, he cut me off and forced me off the road almost causing me to go down. After i told him who i was he aploigized, and i went about my day. Was you doen anything wrong ? Why did he run you off the road ? :hmmm:

Maybe you're too lazy to fight for what's right, so you avoid conflict. Ha. I've been featured in the newspapers over the years fighting for the rights of bikers, you have no idea. Won quite a few of those battles too. I've used the media to promote bikers as not being law-breakers and we've gotten a good result. Then suddenly there was an explosion of squids hitting our roads and the good image we fought to maintain was ruined by 'Biker Boyz' wannabes. The cops reacted to the increased misbehaviour by bikers here, which I'm sure is their reaction over the pond there, with proper action even if harsh at times. I have more respect now for the cops just trying to do their job, than the squids causing the problems. I've seen the biker community turn into a bunch of pussies. They dis the law, but cry like babies when caught, then later have the nerve to slag cops when THEY were in the wrong. I've been consulted by the government and other agencies on helping out on a panel to address the increased problem in biker deaths and injuries. So I play my part. What about you? Oh you must know me so well. You must know cops so well. I'll leave it up to you to make the world a better place. :thumbup:

and they wonder why people are killing cops thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard :headshake

Im an officer and i had another officer from a different deptment do this to me, he cut me off and forced me off the road almost causing me to go down. After i told him who i was he aploigized, and i went about my day. If you hadn't been a cop, he probably would have been pissed off and wrote you a ticket for running him off the road. :hmmm:

thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard :headshake you would think that wouldn't you? sadly enough some people have been fucked with by one to many asshole cops and have snapped.

sadly enough some people have been fucked with by one to many asshole cops and have snapped. I wonder who they could be? :lol:

Yeah, Ive heard alot about Ohio stateys being dicks...But then again, look at the shit they put up with. If you pulled over for reckless op, or being drunk, Id be a dick too....You gotta think, how many lives did you endanger with the lawbreaking that you did (Not YOU, just you in general) also, the whole ohio statey thing again....How come I dont get pulled over for no reason? The stateys dont know my cars, cuz I change them every couple damn months....Maybe you guys just have bad luck, cuz I have NEVER had a problem with an officer. If I get pulled over, I already know what I did wrong before he/she gets up to my vehicle.

I wonder who they could be? :lol: :wasntme: i hide :shhh: the few times i have been pulled was half good half bad outcomes, though 90% of the time it was the "bad cop" routine. as to the "if i did it i'd be a dick too" stuff. just shut up. I deal with the public on a regular basis with my job. i have to be a proffesional no matter how much of and idiot i think the person i'm helping is. EVERY public service job is like that. there is no excuse for a cop to be a dick. if i can do it so can they.

Yeah, and what exactly do you do for a job? Does it have anything to do with ensuring that the general population remains safe?

tell me this, how is a leo being an asshole helping the general public? oh whats that? it doesn't. what do you do when someone is an asshole to you? you stop helping them. what happens when someone is nice to you? you help them more than you normally would. it is very simple. My job is none of your concern.

Some cops enjoy the authority they have over people. Just recently, I saw a motorcycle cop screamed (and I mean SCREAMED) at some poor guy in a rental minivan to pull over. I was directly behind them in my car at the time and heard the cop's voice loud and clear (he had speaker on his bike, don't know why he didn't use it). The van basically got stuck in the middle of the intersection, waiting to make a left. By the time traffic cleared, it was yellow turning red. The cop was directly behind him and proceeded to pull up next to the guy and shouted on top of his lungs to pull over. I felt bad and pissed off because I honestly think that it was not necessary for the cop to scold at a man (in front of his family at that) like a dog, so I rolled my window down and commented "That's not cool. It's not like the guy had just robbed a bank or anything". The cop then look at me and say, "Get out of here or you're going to jail". Typical cop threat. Thumbs down to this asshole.

I felt bad and pissed off because I honestly think that it was not necessary for the cop to scold at a man (in front of his family at that) like a dog, so I rolled my window down and commented "That's not cool. It's not like the guy had just robbed a bank or anything". The cop then look at me and say, "Get out of here or you're going to jail". Typical cop threat. Thumbs down to this asshole. You should have called in a complaint about it. The guy that got yelled at would have been ignored if he complained...but you, as a bystander, have no reason to lie.

^^^^^nice avatar is that the gap??? anywho cops around nc area are known for doing the "pit" move to bikers and has caused many deaths i think they get a little to excited when they are in a chase that big badge makes them feel superior im not speaking about all cops but 95% of them are assholes and wouldnt show up without their badge and radio at my house after dark, we get followed just because we are bikers and for the stupid ass cop that said dont do anything and u have nothing to worry about, have you never broken the speed limit or done a wheelie??:twofinger

^^^^^nice avatar is that the gap??? Yip. I don't live far away, so I go there often.

Wow,just read the entire thread.Can't say there aren't enough opinions on here!!I have been lucky.I was driving a bike with no plates,reg,or insurance last summer.Had a plug fouling up and was "burning it out".Went about 30 mph over and was lit up.I was cool about it,and so was he.Told him I didn't have jack for papers,ins.,ect.He let me off with a verbal warning.I told him I would push it home,he said "why,won't it start again?".He smiled and said"be careful."Took the bike right home.When I do things like putting the front up,or see what she's got,I do it in a safe place.If you are a dumbass doin this shit in populated areas,in traffic,RUNNING,sorry I can't bring myself to feel sorry for you whiners.Alot of the "group riders" I know have to try to show off their pencil dicks by showing off for the ladies.Then bitch about getting an exhibition ticket.Whaaah.And for the LEO's on here,I use my detector to let me know If I am speeding.Mine also picks out emergency vehicles.Don't be hatin on all of us for it...:twofinger I know some cops are dicks,so are some lawbreakers.Don't be a punk ass panzie to them.

Wow,just read the entire thread.Can't say there aren't enough opinions on here!!I have been lucky.I was driving a bike with no plates,reg,or insurance last summer.Had a plug fouling up and was "burning it out".Went about 30 mph over and was lit up.I was cool about it,and so was he.Told him I didn't have jack for papers,ins.,ect.He let me off with a verbal warning.I told him I would push it home,he said "why,won't it start again?".He smiled and said"be careful."Took the bike right home.When I do things like putting the front up,or see what she's got,I do it in a safe place.If you are a dumbass doin this shit in populated areas,in traffic,RUNNING,sorry I can't bring myself to feel sorry for you whiners.Alot of the "group riders" I know have to try to show off their pencil dicks by showing off for the ladies.Then bitch about getting an exhibition ticket.Whaaah.And for the LEO's on here,I use my detector to let me know If I am speeding.Mine also picks out emergency vehicles.Don't be hatin on all of us for it...:twofinger I know some cops are dicks,so are some lawbreakers.Don't be a punk ass panzie to them. Where the hell do you live!??? If you pulled that shit in the northeast your bike would be impounded with the quickness. I can't believe he let you go. You obviously have never experienced a cops abuse of power.

Where the hell do you live!??? If you pulled that shit in the northeast your bike would be impounded with the quickness. I can't believe he let you go. You obviously have never experienced a cops abuse of power. I think some of it was luck,some of it was attitude.Like I said,I was honest from the start with him.Didn't waste his time with "I didn't know I was speeding" line.I think most cops know we can outrun them unless they are on a bike(most times..:) ).Of course I had nothing to hide,no drugs,old tickets,warrants..ect...why run?I would like to know if some of the cops on here caught me @ 100+mph in a safe area,and I didn't give them attitude,what they would do...

i posted a vid of a cop doing that man it was bad

i posted a vid of a cop doing that man it was bad A cop doing that man?Was it a porno?

A cop doing that man?Was it a porno? http://www.gsxr.com/showthread.php?t=29823 and yea u could say he did that man if u wanted to :headshake

http://www.gsxr.com/showthread.php?t=29823 and yea u could say he did that man if u wanted to :headshake :infrandom i know its hard to read your posts some times if you dont use any punctuation it seems like the sentence just runs on forever i know what you were sayin tho

^^^^^nice avatar is that the gap??? anywho cops around nc area are known for doing the "pit" move to bikers and has caused many deaths i think they get a little to excited when they are in a chase that big badge makes them feel superior im not speaking about all cops but 95% of them are assholes and wouldnt show up without their badge and radio at my house after dark, we get followed just because we are bikers and for the stupid ass cop that said dont do anything and u have nothing to worry about, have you never broken the speed limit or done a wheelie??:twofinger Haha...I know a couple cops that would show up at your hoodlum ass front door and go hand to hand with you "without thier radio or pistol." Your a piece of shit, respect the job they fuckin' do. At the very least, pick a career where you life is threatened by fuckers like you, then you can bash them. Let me ask you all a question.....Someone breaks into your house? Who would YOU call? <> Bullshit, you'd call the police!

Haha...I know a couple cops that would show up at your hoodlum ass front door and go hand to hand with you "without thier radio or pistol." Your a piece of shit, respect the job they fuckin' do. At the very least, pick a career where you life is threatened by fuckers like you, then you can bash them. Let me ask you all a question.....Someone breaks into your house? Who would YOU call? <> Bullshit, you'd call the police! Would that be b4 I shot him or after:hmmm:

Haha...After. Ya know whats messed up though? In Ohio you cannot shoot someone breaking into your house unless it is in the front part of their body (meaning they are coming at you) if they are running away, you legally cannot shoot them..Pretty gay....

Haha...I know a couple cops that would show up at your hoodlum ass front door and go hand to hand with you "without thier radio or pistol." Your a piece of shit, respect the job they fuckin' do. At the very least, pick a career where you life is threatened by fuckers like you, then you can bash them. Let me ask you all a question.....Someone breaks into your house? Who would YOU call? <> Bullshit, you'd call the police! :werd:

Personally, I'd call 911 and ask for an ambulance. I have more guns in my house than I do phones. They're easier to get to and faster to get results. :thumbup: I respect a cop that does their job and deserves respect. I loathe the sorry piece of shit motherfuckers that abuse their power and are assholes about it. :fu:

:infrandom i know its hard to read your posts some times if you dont use any punctuation it seems like the sentence just runs on forever i know what you were sayin tho thats because i get wasted sorry

:infrandom i know its hard to read your posts some times if you dont use any punctuation it seems like the sentence just runs on forever i know what you were sayin tho Or Those Who Must Type Like They're Naming The Title Of A Movie :laughingr

police can be asses!

Who told you this??? I really wouldn't trust 3rd hand information like this if I were you. I highly doubt police officers are pulling out in front of motorcyclists on purpose to try and wreck them. Sorry, but I gotta call BULLSHIT. Maybe an officer and a rider were involved in an accident where the rider died, but how do you know the officer intentionally pulled out in front of him?? Sounds like typical BS rumors that aren't true. I can tell you as an officer, that if I pulled out in front of a rider who was killed, not only would I be charged with misdemeanor death by vehicle, but I would lose my job and get sued for everything I own. I think you got some bad info. :thumbup: Anyways, ride safe. this past summer an of duty cop was leaving a bar and he was drunk as hell(i know this because he comes into my resturant i work at and gets sloshed) pulles out of the parkinglot and hit a kid on a sportbike who was on his way home and kills him. the cop i was told also refused a breatherliser test. the last i heard he got a slap on the wrist. but on the other hand a kid on a sport bike ran from a state trooper who was in a suv, and the trooper lost control of the suv due to high speeds and died. the kid didnt know and went home as he thought he just got away. i think someone ratted on him not sure tho but he got cought and is up for murder charges.

It’s not all BS. Most officers know that you can’t just pull out in front of a bike and expect it to stop. But a new guy or just a officer not thinking could easily miss judge the speed and distance of a bike like most people that don’t ride do and the cost can be more than some people can live with. Even if it is accidents it’s not easy knowing you killed a man and im sure the cops in that event have a hard time dealing with that. And yes on the other hand there is always one and it is possible you could have that one ass hole that ruins the rest.

Cops that are azzholes don't have a conscious, how do you think they became azzholes? I know some cops are cool, and I know too many cops that are pricks and think their above the law. It really depends of the person. I know a lot of cops use the "what if" scenario, I usually say back "what if I don't/didn't?". They hate that, but that's life. Really depends on the person though.

Ftp!

i passed a cop today behind a factory and the cop freakin flashed his lights at me.. at the stop light he caught up to me and told me to turn off my brights... they werent even on.. its called a hill asshole and thats usually what happens when you go over the top is the lights go into your eyes..:fu:

gimme a f'n break. if you think that police officers intentionally pull out in front of bikes, you are insane. i'm an officer in florida and also ride. if you just want to bash us in law enforcement, why don't you try callin a crackhead the next time you need help. just remember that if you ever take a hard spill, the first person there to help you regardless of how much of a turd you are is the police.

gimme a f'n break. if you think that police officers intentionally pull out in front of bikes, you are insane. i'm an officer in florida and also ride. if you just want to bash us in law enforcement, why don't you try callin a crackhead the next time you need help. just remember that if you ever take a hard spill, the first person there to help you regardless of how much of a turd you are is the police. word:clap:

SOmebody post up some gay porn or something, so this damn thread will die!!!!!

better link: http://www.geocities.com/fuzioncs/stabdo.mpg Fuzion did the bike hit the cop car???video quality wasn't real high.

i passed a cop today behind a factory and the cop freakin flashed his lights at me.. at the stop light he caught up to me and told me to turn off my brights... they werent even on.. its called a hill asshole and thats usually what happens when you go over the top is the lights go into your eyes..:fu: In the daytime, In Fla. we are suppose run high beams in the day on a bike.

I think some of it was luck,some of it was attitude.Like I said,I was honest from the start with him.Didn't waste his time with "I didn't know I was speeding" line.I think most cops know we can outrun them unless they are on a bike(most times..:) ).Of course I had nothing to hide,no drugs,old tickets,warrants..ect...why run?I would like to know if some of the cops on here caught me @ 100+mph in a safe area,and I didn't give them attitude,what they would do... Are u for real, u said u have nothing to hide. but said u was doing 30 over that's a felony.... reckless driving.

Can somebody lock this thread?

That comment was dumb...

PLEASE be careful if you see police, they're starting to pull out in front of speeding bikes because notoriously bikes run away from, and subsequently get away from the cops. Another rider was telling me about two "accidents" in the past month. The first was active duty enlisted soldier in Hawaii. He was riding on the highway when a police officer pulled out in front of him. The next was a warrant officer in Florida who had a state trooper pull out in front of him. Both of them hit the police car and died. Of course both cops got off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist for what should have been manslaughter charges. Do you know if there is a law against them using there vehicle or person to stop riders?

Sorry to disagree with you, but just recently in Miami, I had a Police Officer pull out directly in front of me while riding with a passenger and vehicles also speeding directly behind me to issue me a speeding ticket. How do you explain that? 63 in a 35. I know of officers that would rather not stop you to avoid endangerment, but that officer didn't give two shits! Authority issues if you ask me.

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