usdm420 02-17-2005, 12:26 PM ok so i've been trying wheelies for a few weeks now and feeling more n more comfortable as i go....question is how long before you guys started standing up instead of sit-downs?
just curious...i'm gonna start using the clutch up method and wanna be able to just stand up, pop it, and go...any advice on how to get started? is it scarier than sitting down?
Got2josh 02-18-2005, 09:10 AM as soon as you get comfortable with the feeling of the wheel coming up for sitdowns I'd start to try stand ups. Any way you do them they feel weird at first, but you get used to it and it comes up so much easier.
I'd learn them staggered too, right foot covering the brake, left foot on the left rear passenger peg.
brandonlyons1 02-18-2005, 11:25 AM i think its easier and smoother to bouce it up while you are already standing up than to clutch it up, then stand up. just my opinion
usdm420 02-19-2005, 03:08 PM more 411 on the bounce method please...i was gonna try clutching them up while already standing, not clutching it up, THEN standing :hmmm:
jmfuentes 03-18-2005, 08:05 AM yeah man its easier to stand up than the sit downs i bounce it up cause i know how far it will go up but if you clutch it then you really dont know how far back it will go. so try to bounce it at first. stand up first and then bouse it and give it gas. it will come up nice. try it on first gear at like 6000 rpm well thats what it comes up on my 600 it might be diffrent with yours but try to bounce it first before you clutch it :arsenal :arsenal
usdm420 03-19-2005, 06:55 PM ok so like how i already do it but stand first....right now on my sit-downs i take her up to 6-7K, let off the gas, then gas her on the rebound and she comes right up every time
i'll give it a shot in the next week or so
rev411 03-19-2005, 08:23 PM easiest way i learned was on my old 600. Left foot on passenger peg, right foot covering brake,stand up,bounce front end,on the rebound up give it gas(start with small twist at first so you don't wipe the pavement with your butt!),lean back as you give it gas. There you go instant stand up! You can do this in just about any gear. The higher the gear, the lower the revs so you don't hit the rev limiter so fast. You can ride these until you run out of road. cook at 350 degreesF for about 30min, best enjoyed when shared with friends
jeepboyyj 03-20-2005, 02:25 PM Everyone else pretty much hit it on the head. Just remember to stand UP, natural instinct will be to lean forward some and look down to see how high you are. If you keep your head up and look out in front where you are going you will find it requires less throttle to hold the wheelie. Personally I like 2nd gear cause it doesn't come down as hard and it doesn't come back as fast.
ZgixxeR 03-21-2005, 11:16 PM Play with the power in second. You should be able to go around 50-60 mph, rip the throttle all the way open and raise the front tire off the ground. Once you get it coming up like that then start standing on the pegs, loading the suspension by pushing down on the grips then throttle and pull straight up. It will take a while but you should learn them fairly quickly.
usdm420 03-24-2005, 04:56 PM havent tried the standups yet due to the weather but my sitdowns are getting more n more comfy/longer..thanks for the tips guys....i like the bounce/power up method, works the best for me...consistant every time
jmfuentes 03-26-2005, 05:44 PM [QUOTE=ZGixxeR] rip the throttle all the way open and raise the front tire off the ground.
hell naw do not rip the throttle all the way that will just bust your but just go about half way and it comes up to much just lay off but do not do it all the way this guy is an idiot
tazman132 04-01-2005, 05:11 PM well i think i have mastered the art of th stand up, i always stand up before i pull up the bike, just stand up then as you bounce down give it some juice. i do it this way all the time, when you get going fast like 90 or 100 i dont think is possible to get it up with out standin and bouncin it, its hot if you learn to do standups at speeds under 10 mph, just becarefull so the bike doesnt go sideways, it would be embarassing to tell your friends you droped your bike at like 5 mph, well have fun hopefully this helped!!!!!!!!!!
usdm420 04-01-2005, 07:49 PM shit i dont even think i can pull it up under 20mph hahaha
after 20 i can just gas'er and she eases right up
Motojoe_23 04-01-2005, 08:00 PM i ride an 03 600, but have ridden my buddies 04
Second gear CAN be clutched sitdown.
Second gear sitdowns to make it easier to get it at low speeds i actually standup and bounce on it and sitdown and clutch it up all at the same time. i lift it at 45 or so then and ride it out at 50-55 forever.
Second gear about 50 mph for standup you jsut close the throttle and whack it back open and pull a bit. If you throttle chop and bounce you can have it up before you hit 60 and ride it there.
Thired gear at about 70-75 I clutch and bounce and am straight up before 80 MPH and ride it forever.
As to your question, I rode sitdowns for a long time before standups. I had sitdowns in second down to where I could ride them for miles.
Then one day we were riding some back roads at about 70MPH (my second gears were at about 55 or so) so I couldnt do any wheelies. My friends were all riding standups. So at 75 i tried to throttle chop and yank on it standup (keep in mind I had NEVER done a standup and only tried a handfull of times and didnt like it) It came up a few inches. So I tried to clutch it only and it came up about 3 feet and I then KNEW it was possible. I tried clutch AND bounce and my first standup was about 1/4 mile. The next day I was over a mile on them with ease.
usdm420 04-01-2005, 08:13 PM hmmmm, i just cant get comfortable clutching them, even tho i know it makes for easier wheelies because thge speed can be lower...it gets all jerky on me and feels like it wants to throw me off (ESPECIALLY if i stand up)
tazman132 04-05-2005, 01:15 PM thats ok you odnt ned to clutch it. i only do when i need to get the bike up quick (aka hot chick around) or to impress my friends because most of them cant. but mostly i just give it some juice and bounce when needed.
usdm420 04-05-2005, 03:13 PM i'll be trying it some time soon....my sitdowns are getting more n more comfortable.
Rwmaximus1k 04-05-2005, 07:16 PM once u start stand ups dont forget about the sit downs... Go for soem BP sit downs... the ballance point is way higher than stand ups and no one rocks out long a$$ sit downs any more, especially on the high way
OWA_21 04-07-2005, 10:51 AM once u start stand ups dont forget about the sit downs... Go for soem BP sit downs... the ballance point is way higher than stand ups and no one rocks out long a$$ sit downs any more, especially on the high way
Thats because ur bp sitdowns u cant really see in front of you unless ur looking threw ur forks or out the side.
My advice to you usdm is get very very comfy with sit downs first then when u think ur ready just say #uck it and do it. But wear all ur gear 1st.
usdm420 04-07-2005, 11:59 AM i hear ya...thats the plan, thanks!
hey_joe52 05-14-2005, 01:17 PM I have the same bike..04' 600. you might try to learn to bounce it in 1st, but it will be pretty touchy. mine will come up with a slight bounce as low as 4k in 1st. once you learn it a little, 2nd is the way to go. it should come up pretty easily around 7k-8k, but if it doesn't try it a little higher the first couple of times. mine will come up in 3rd, but its really fast with stock gearing. good luck and stand ups are the way to go. :thumbup:
gixxer2000 06-10-2005, 06:33 PM i have a 00 gsxr 600 and i was told that when trying to do a wheelie in 2nd gear im gonna have to bounce and clutch it to bring up the front end? How true is that and would you guys do that or not ? im still working on 1 gear sit downs at the moment.
BBRC3 06-16-2005, 11:19 AM Only advice I can give is make sure that your foot pegs are tight. After a while vibration will loosen it up and doing a stand up with a peg about to fall off is real bad news. Another bit of advice is I know when I first started to learn I always thought I was about to flip over. That is until you see yourself on film. Always try to have someone film you, and then view it later. You will learn every trick you ever wanted to know a lot faster.
cakemonster 06-18-2005, 11:00 AM :lol: itried a few stand ups this morning.. in first, just juking the throttle...
got it up a whoppin 5 inches!tried in third and fourth to no avail.. and i think i poped it up quick in second... but right back down again. seems easier than sitodowns. i'll get more practice hitting bp on sitdowns first though
gixxer2000 06-24-2005, 08:57 PM I have a 00 600... what advice do you have for me for bringin it up in 2nd gear ?
mr_gsxr750 06-25-2005, 07:02 PM I have a 00 600... what advice do you have for me for bringin it up in 2nd gear ?
clutch it!
atdacrib2002 07-23-2005, 10:30 AM any 1 on this site right now
SarasotaGSXR 07-23-2005, 10:44 AM Clutching is the most reliable way off getting the wheel up in second, next to powering it up but u have 2 b haulin to power in 2nd, my 05 600 clutches up just fine in 2nd, no bouncing needed, save bouncing for 3rd.. :thumbup:
04StreetGSXR 07-23-2005, 11:19 AM good advice guys im gonna try them soon also, when i get a new tire!! :thumbup:
usdm420 07-24-2005, 07:16 AM i need to head out with a buddy and have him show me these methods (bounce/clutch) in person so i can see 1st hand whats being done.
Motojoe_23 07-24-2005, 10:52 AM 00 600 can be bounced and throttle chopped in second standup. bounce and clutch will be easier to get up, but might scare you.
sitdown it is a BITCH to get the srad 600 up in second but it will do it.
jixerboy 08-12-2005, 08:27 AM I just started doing stand up wheelies the begining of this season. Before that I had been learning throttle control doing sit down wheelies so i knew how high the wheel was going to come up. I do not like the clutch method. I had to replace my clutch on my old bike that was not fuel injected because of doing too many wheelies.
When I first ask people about stand up wheelies they told me to stand up, then bring the wheel up, but when I tried I felt like I was going to land on my back and I was barely coming up. I just could not get a comfortable feeling and I told my self that I would never catch on if it always felt like that at first. But I never really gave up.
So while I was watching a video put out by SOCAL ELITE called "Up On One", I saw a guy on there (Travis) stand up the same time the front wheel came up and when I tried it that way I had no problem. Once I have it up and the wheel comes down I can bring it right back up while standing but I just have trouble starting out standing.
Now I am trying to perfect my balance point.
Hope this helps someone,
Jixerboy
Yes it's fast, No you can't ride it!
usdm420 08-12-2005, 09:19 AM I just started doing stand up wheelies the begining of this season. Before that I had been learning throttle control doing sit down wheelies so i knew how high the wheel was going to come up. I do not like the clutch method. I had to replace my clutch on my old bike that was not fuel injected because of doing too many wheelies.
When I first ask people about stand up wheelies they told me to stand up, then bring the wheel up, but when I tried I felt like I was going to land on my back and I was barely coming up. I just could not get a comfortable feeling and I told my self that I would never catch on if it always felt like that at first. But I never really gave up.
So while I was watching a video put out by SOCAL ELITE called "Up On One", I saw a guy on there (Travis) stand up the same time the front wheel came up and when I tried it that way I had no problem. Once I have it up and the wheel comes down I can bring it right back up while standing but I just have trouble starting out standing.
Now I am trying perfect my balance point.
Hope this helped someone,
Jixerboy
Yes it's fast, No you can't ride it!
i'll have to give that a shot....i've stood up while bringing my sitdowns back down (its my "avoid the nuts" technique)
......never tried it while its goin up :hmmm:
gixxer2000 08-12-2005, 07:52 PM 00 600 can be bounced and throttle chopped in second standup. bounce and clutch will be easier to get up, but might scare you.
sitdown it is a BITCH to get the srad 600 up in second but it will do it.
^^^^^ ive heard that too... thinkin about putting a bigger rear sprocket on. what size should i upgrade too ??
usdm420 08-12-2005, 09:18 PM go +2/3...
sacgsxr 08-12-2005, 10:56 PM go big or go home, 60 tooth...oh yeah the one next to it is a stock sprocket
sacgsxr 08-12-2005, 10:59 PM im just playin that is a stunt sprocket...just bump up stand ups its easy they come up slow and gentle its not as quik as clutchs and all you have to do is chop the throttle just make sure your arms are pushing the bars down at the same time your feet push the pegs down...its all timing youll feel it and when it clicks just throttle up the rebound from the suspension brings it right up, i have a 05 600 and when i have my stock gears on i can still bump up in 4th its all practice and balls but dont let your balls or ego get ahead of you!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
FuzioN 08-12-2005, 11:23 PM Is that an Alpinestar tattoo? :bowdown:
usdm420 08-13-2005, 03:05 AM with that pizza tray-sized sprocket...can you power up any gear?? and how easily?
xxdomyxx 04-26-2006, 03:14 PM hey i have an o5 stock 600, i know it can come up in second with clutching at around 40 mph or 5-6k, have u tried standups? also will it come up at lets say 50mph or like 30? im working on my 2nd sit downs, but i here stand ups are easier,.....not trying to move real fast with learning, i know i have to take it slow, so any pointers?
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