Spoiler!!! Rossi or Hayden??

So after watching the past few GP races I am a little indecisive as to who I want to win the championship. I would love to see Hayden win. An American as the world champ would be great. However I don’t know that he deserves it. After the race today he just didn’t get it done. He did win 2 races this year but other than that he was just in the right places at the right time, so to speak. He never really dominated the series. There was never a race where he was behind and came back to win in style. If that big crash in the beginning of the season hadn’t taken out a fair share of the top riders I think the championship would have been a lot different from where it is today. I understand that’s part of the sport however.. On the other hand it would be awesome to see Rossi win another championship. Yamaha on top, #8, and he would prove he’s the greatest of all time. Last week for example on lap 5 he passed 6 guys before going to the pits for a set of rains. Just awesome. If Hayden would have won today I may have had a different opinion on the matter but I am beginning to think Rossi deserves it more. Any thoughts?

Also after seeing that Hayden needed to pass Nakano and to put his head down to make up some points instead he was getting furthur away from that Giber & nakano pack. Unfortunately Nakano crashed out after trying to go inside of Giberman and Hayden was right there to take his spot. I dont know if hayden is having problems with his bike or he is not in the mind set of running for a victory to try and secure his lead.

I thought a few races back when Nicky was 40+ points in the lead that the only person who could beat him was Nicky himself. I'm not so sure about clutches, tires, etc... being the cause of Nicky's recent downfall. If nicky doesn't win the championship, then it was because he beat himself. I'm not taking anything away from Rossi, but if Nicky continued to be consistant and finish on the podium the last 3-4 races, it wouldn't have mattered if Rossi won the rest of the races. With 12 points behind, Rossi has Nicky right where he wants him. I think next race will decide the championship.

I would love to see Hayden win it also, even though Rossi is the man. Hayden was hot until they took the month off after Laguna Seca. Bad tire choice at Brno. He has had clutch problems the last 2 races (look at today's start). Don't forget that Rossi passed under a yellow flag at Philip Island. http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/32737/ Neither here nor there, Hayden needs to start running like a scalded dog if he's gonna win this. And I hope he does.

For the next 2 races, Nicky has to go Balls to the Walls! Race to win! If Nicky doesn't finish 1st or 2nd next race, I think it's over for him.:damn:

For the next 2 races, Nicky has to go Balls to the Walls! Race to win! If Nicky doesn't finish 1st or 2nd next race, I think it's over for him.:damn: he wont do it, nicky dosnt have the heart and passion like cap or rossi do. hes too scared to risk it to win it, hed rather make sure he finishes then have the chance of throwing it away and loose the championship. and thats why i dont like hayden. racing is haydens Job, while racing is Rossi's life. this is the last 990cc season ever, and just like rossi one the last ever 500cc season ever, he will win the last 990cc season ever also. ill bet my cbr1000 on it. rossi has nickey where he wants him, and rossi is going to get into his head if he hasnt already. put pedrosa where nicky has been all season long and i gurantee you pedrosa would have the title locked already. nickey needs to go back AMA, the boys in the GP paddock are getting to be too much for him.

It's not that Nicky does not have hearts, not even Rossi who is supposed to be the man can't even keep up with Loris. Now that is one fast MUTHA and he has been kicking every ones ass. Nicky needs no excuses and he even said he will not give himself any either and Repsol need to get the bike to work better with Nicky. He seems to be alot slower then Yamaha, and Kawasaki and other Hondas. Nicky was doing some fast lap at the ending laps after the shitty start and that shows it is not him and it is after some of the gas is burnt up he becomes quicker. We can all kick and fuss bit Nicky, Respsol, and Michelins all need to get their shit together cuz the USA is due for a world championship.

I think Rossi could have caught Lorris but decided it wouldnt be worth crashing. In the grand scheme of the championship 2ed was better than crashing out. If Lorris hadnt gapped Melandri I think Rossi would have been right up there with him after he passed Melandri. There was a few laps where Rossi had the Gap down to 1.4 seconds. I know thats eternity in racing but I think he could have caught up if he thought it would be worth it. I know Caparossi is fast and a great rider but this is Valentino Rossi. Arguably the best motorcycle racer of all time. He has proven how to win a championship, 7 times.

I agree, I have been a race fan for several years now. I think Nicky would not have won the AMA superbike championship if Matt had been on equal machinery. He is being coached by Doug Chandler, who if you remember was fast when his ZX-7 was way faster than everyone else, but was also extremely conservative when his bike was on equal terms with everyone else. I think Nicky is just too conservative to ride as hard as Rossi does. His recent results show that he is scared of losing, which as you know is not the path to victory. Victory comes to the bold.

I think Rossi could have caught Lorris but decided it wouldnt be worth crashing. In the grand scheme of the championship 2ed was better than crashing out. If Lorris hadnt gapped Melandri I think Rossi would have been right up there with him after he passed Melandri. There was a few laps where Rossi had the Gap down to 1.4 seconds. I know thats eternity in racing but I think he could have caught up if he thought it would be worth it. I know Caparossi is fast and a great rider but this is Valentino Rossi. Arguably the best motorcycle racer of all time. He has proven how to win a championship, 7 times. I honestly think that Capi isn't intimidated by Rossi one bit. When his machine is working and the Bridgestones are sticking, I think that Capi can give Rossi a run for his money. True, Rossi would rather finish 2nd than crash trying to keep-up with Capi. Capi is one of the few riders who doesn't care who is behind him, he will give it 100%. I too feel that sometimes Nicky slows down a lot in order not to crash out. At this point, he should race to win!:arsenal Bring back that championship to U.S.A!!!

I agree, I have been a race fan for several years now. I think Nicky would not have won the AMA superbike championship if Matt had been on equal machinery. He is being coached by Doug Chandler, who if you remember was fast when his ZX-7 was way faster than everyone else, but was also extremely conservative when his bike was on equal terms with everyone else. I think Nicky is just too conservative to ride as hard as Rossi does. His recent results show that he is scared of losing, which as you know is not the path to victory. Victory comes to the bold. I agree with you buddy. Nicky does ride very conservative at times. I would take the heart of a "Stoner" and the talent of a "Pedrosa" to win championships.

Man, all my respect for Hayden has gone out the window! That man is a joke. He is a sore loser! He's bitchin' and moaning about Rossi passing on a yellow flag? It's just his way of making another excuse for himself. There are no EXCUSES in sports. You either WIN or DON'T. He is a perfect example of a sore loser. Be pissed at yourself for not cutting it, for christ sakes its racing. Rossi, this man left Honda, which was the top bike, the best bike for another company. He's still kicking ass. In the end, theres no such thing as "what ifs." There's no "I could of" just, you did or you didn't. Thats all. Reminds me of back in my basketball days. When we would win by 1 point at the very end. Just one point, the other team would bitch and complain about a call that didn't go there way that was at the begining of the game. Claiming that costed them the game. But next year, I think Pedrosa will the man, or it will be very close between him and Rossi (ooOo so excited already). With the new 800cc bike, honda can build a bike just for Pedrosa, for his weight. People say he's so light it gives him an advantage, well its not, the bike is literally too big for him. Its a disadvantage for him, he's super light and short, doesn't put enough weight over the front of the bike (which is why he's crashed all those times) from not enough weight on the front and it just go out from under him. Give him a 250 style type of bike, and its friggin' over!

To further show nickey is a bitch when it comes race day, he has had the fastest practice times all season long, and also in in spot to win the BMW M series award for doing so, but yet race day comes and he cant perform. I also second the 800cc being a bike pedrosa will love, it will also be a bike that hayden hates, he just started getting used to the flowing style of the GP bike from the point and shoot superbikes. The 800's are basically bigger 4 stroke 250cc GP replicas, a world rossi, cap, others, and especially Pedrosa are accustomed to, and hayden is a virgin to. Just wait, Honda signed hayden on for another two years because hes leading the championship now, BUT ALSO because Lorenzo(top 250gp rider) signed for another 2 years, when those contracts are up, it will be Pedrosa in the #1 spot at HRC, and Lorenzo being his partner, they will be an unstopable combo.

I hear you guys on the smaller 800cc bikes and the potential advantage that it will give Pedrosa however I don’t particularly care for him. Yes he has incredible skill and has the potential to be a MotoGP world champ just like he did in the 250s but I still don’t care for him. To me he doesn’t bring anything other than his skill to the track. He doesn’t have the personality of Rossi or the charisma of Sete. I would rather see Caparossi win a championship over Pedrosa. I would like to see a few solid battles between Rossi and Pedrosa though, keep this sport entertaining.

nicky all the way!

Hayden all the way. If you were getting screwed then you should say something. We'll see who wins it all.

Sorry about Hayden guys but I think Rossi's gonna come back to win the title unless his motor grenades again.

I honestly think that Capi isn't intimidated by Rossi one bit. When his machine is working and the Bridgestones are sticking, I think that Capi can give Rossi a run for his money. True, Rossi would rather finish 2nd than crash trying to keep-up with Capi. Capi is one of the few riders who doesn't care who is behind him, he will give it 100%. +1

I hear you guys on the smaller 800cc bikes and the potential advantage that it will give Pedrosa however I don’t particularly care for him. Yes he has incredible skill and has the potential to be a MotoGP world champ just like he did in the 250s but I still don’t care for him. To me he doesn’t bring anything other than his skill to the track. He doesn’t have the personality of Rossi or the charisma of Sete. I would rather see Caparossi win a championship over Pedrosa. I would like to see a few solid battles between Rossi and Pedrosa though, keep this sport entertaining. yes, Pedrosa is good. very good, but the only reason he's doing so well right now is because these big bikes have got traction control. so he can ride it like the 250cc he was on. with out the traction control that they have got none of the *new* guys would be anywhere near as fast as they are right now - their first season on the bike.

Man, all my respect for Hayden has gone out the window! That man is a joke. He is a sore loser! He's bitchin' and moaning about Rossi passing on a yellow flag? It's just his way of making another excuse for himself. There are no EXCUSES in sports. You either WIN or DON'T. He is a perfect example of a sore loser. Be pissed at yourself for not cutting it, for christ sakes its racing. Rossi, this man left Honda, which was the top bike, the best bike for another company. He's still kicking ass. In the end, theres no such thing as "what ifs." There's no "I could of" just, you did or you didn't. Thats all. likewise...

If Hayden wins the championship, I believe he needs to win another one to prove that it wasn't just sheer luck. Consistancy is not what the fans want and not a way to gain respect (from both the fans & media), and I believe respect means a lot to these racers. The last world champ was Kenny Jr. and look how many times his name come up when we speak of world champs. Almost never, and the man scored 4 victories in his winning season. It's going to take a lot than just points to win people over, and I think Hayden knows that.

If Hayden wins the championship, I believe he needs to win another one to prove that it wasn't just sheer luck. Consistancy is not what the fans want and not a way to gain respect (from both the fans & media), and I believe respect means a lot to these racers. The last world champ was Kenny Jr. and look how many times his name come up when we speak of world champs. Almost never, and the man scored 4 victories in his winning season. It's going to take a lot than just points to win people over, and I think Hayden knows that. well put.

Gotta agree with you! Rossi is a true champ, he had bad luck this season with engine and tires and that is the only reason why he is having to fight his way back. Just wish i had a Grandstand seat for Valencia