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Corge
11-03-2006, 05:30 AM
Just out of curiosity; for models with the 162 HP engine what limits the top speed to ~290 km/h? Is it air drag, a speed-limiter or the gearing?
Could the machine reach a higher top speed if the gearing was set somewhat higher? Not that I need or would want that, just curious. :-)

audi1031
11-03-2006, 06:19 AM
Many factors rider wind road gear HP best gearing time weight Sooo many that can make a diffrence hel if you took a dump could matter. Avg stock one ( Unless you have GPS then post your mph) is 176 -182 mph. I can not say definate and Yes to all you speedo will be off so don't think what you seen on your MPH of your bike to be accurate unless you have speedo healer or GPS I am no expert just saying that is what i have seen on GPS :thumbup:

Mister Tee
11-03-2006, 08:39 AM
I get an extra 5 mph boost every time I fart.

1kGSXR
11-03-2006, 11:56 AM
Says 186 when topped out. Bike is rated at 188 by suzuki.

onedownfiveup
11-03-2006, 12:47 PM
Your digital speedometer will not read past 186

BtownGixxer
11-03-2006, 03:29 PM
Fast as I have heard GPS tested is 182.32 MPH.

aares
11-03-2006, 03:47 PM
182.32? Must be pretty nice to measure speed to the hundredths!

Mr645
11-03-2006, 07:25 PM
You would be surprised at the few extra MPH you can gain by tucking in real well. Air resistance is the limiting factor, so get your toes, elbows ,knees, hands, everything in. Head down against the tank. Removing mirrors, lowering the front, every little trick has an effect ay ultra high speeds.

Jon

BtownGixxer
11-03-2006, 10:51 PM
182.32? Must be pretty nice to measure speed to the hundredths!

I seen it posted in a mag. I have seen my speedo hit the magic 186 mark, don't have a GPS to varify how fast I was really going

BtownGixxer
11-03-2006, 10:52 PM
You would be surprised at the few extra MPH you can gain by tucking in real well. Air resistance is the limiting factor, so get your toes, elbows ,knees, hands, everything in. Head down against the tank. Removing mirrors, lowering the front, every little trick has an effect ay ultra high speeds.

Jon

There was an article in one of the mags about drag on some of the bikes, the gsxr1000 did better than the zx-14 and zx-10, but was ousted by the Busa

gixxerk1d
11-04-2006, 04:49 PM
i have a friend with a 06 1000 gixxer and he said he toped out at 191mph. Well thats just what he say. I toped my k6 600 at 170mph and i have friend with the same bike which is stock he said he did 180. I have a micron slip on. Thats just what they say i dont know if its true or not.

BtownGixxer
11-04-2006, 05:06 PM
i have a friend with a 06 1000 gixxer and he said he toped out at 191mph. Well thats just what he say. I toped my k6 600 at 170mph and i have friend with the same bike which is stock he said he did 180. I have a micron slip on. Thats just what they say i dont know if its true or not.

Doesn't the speedo stop reading higher than 186?

RWOOD
11-04-2006, 05:21 PM
Cycle World Magazine.

2001 gsxr1000
144.3 rear wheel hp. @10,500rpm
1/4 mile 9.95 @ 143.69mph
top speed 175 mph

2001 gsxr 750
123.6 rear wheel hp @12,500rpm
1/4 mile time 10.38 @ 135.49mph
top speed 168 mph

2001 gsxr 600
103.5 rear wheel hp @13,500rpm
1/4 mile time 10.76 @ 127.95mph
top speed 156 mph

GIXERMAN
11-04-2006, 05:36 PM
The speedo stops at 186mph although I have heard it said that the revs will continue to rise (K5/K6 1000's)

BtownGixxer
11-04-2006, 08:50 PM
I am guessing that by what I have seen and read, that a K6 will top out at 182 stock. I am sure that could go both ways +/- 2 or 3 mph depending on rider and conditions

bloodycrashboy
11-05-2006, 04:07 AM
my k2 1000 speedo stops at 299klm per hr (185.7miles)
At that speed I cant tell if holding it there is getting it going any faster :headscrat
(stock gearing and only 140 or so HP)
It would be interesting to use a gps to get the "true" speed.
Seedos here in OZ only have to be acurate to + or - 10%

gixxerk1d
11-05-2006, 07:39 AM
Doesn't the speedo stop reading higher than 186?

i dont even know. I would have to ride his bike and see 4 my self. Sometimes people say things to look cool.

audi1031
11-05-2006, 09:22 AM
Read again it tells you about speedometers
Many factors rider wind road gear HP best gearing time weight Sooo many that can make a diffrence hel if you took a dump could matter. Avg stock one ( Unless you have GPS then post your mph) is 176 -182 mph. I can not say definate and Yes to all you speedo will be off so don't think what you seen on your MPH of your bike to be accurate unless you have speedo healer or GPS I am no expert just saying that is what i have seen on GPS :thumbup:

Corge
11-05-2006, 10:30 AM
A lot of answers, thanks.
But does anyone know what actually limits the top speed? Is it simply the gearing -- would higher gear ratios, or a seventh gear increase the top speed? Or is it simply down to being defeated by the drag -- i.e. more power or improved aerodynamics are needed?

GIXERMAN
11-05-2006, 11:41 AM
If you could get around the electronic speed restrictor, I think you would need excess power to go past 200mph (a turbo or/and nos)

Crashdaddy
11-05-2006, 02:22 PM
There are a few factors affecting top speed.

The factory 300 KPH (186 mph) limiter
Aerodynamic drag of the bike and rider combo
Weight of bike and rider and gear (only due to slower acceleration, which doesn't matter if you have limitless area to accelerate (Bonneville)
Horsepower of engine
Gearing
Frictional losses of the drive train (chain, sprockets, shaft?)
Surface the speed attempt was made on (pavement, salt, dry lake,?)


This is not an all inclusive list, but is the major ones. Tires can effect the speed as well. Even the unsprung weight of the wheels can have an effect on accleration, but not top speed. One thing I can say positively is that my 06 GSXR1000 will not go faster than 186 mph stock. Also, changing the gearing to a taller set up would do absolutely nothing(except slow it down), as it is geared for over 200 mph stock. That is pretty easy to figure. In my case at 70 mph indicated, my engine is turning close to 4500 rpm. Triple the rpm would put the engine at redline(13,500), so triple the speed is about 210. Some magazines check the speed at 1000 rpm in top gear and multiply it by the redline (I.E. 10 mph in 6th with a 13,500 redline would be 135 hypothetical top speed). Actual top speed varies hugely from hypothetical top speed. And you also have to remember that for whatever reason our speedos are way off on the optimistic side. My experience has been they are more than 10% off. Sometimes much more than 10%.

Sometimes gearing down rather than up will bring a higher top speed. The reason is most stock bikes will not pull top gear to redline. The aerodynamic drag on a motorcycle increases with the square of the airspeed. So it takes a hell of a lot more power to go just a few mph faster. If you can gear the bike down to get the rpm up higher into the peak power band of your engine, your top speed could conceivably increase. In my race bike's case, gearing down substantially did not affect my top speed at all. It stayed the same, but it gets there a lot quicker, and the engine is revving a lot higher.

I guess the moral to the story is the major influence, by far, is the drag on the motorcycle. If you can clean up the aerodynamics of the bike or tuck in tighter, you can have a lot bigger influence on top speed than adding horsepower. Unless you add a LOT of horsepower, like nitrous, supercharging, turbocharging, etc. Ideally you would have the most slippery motorcycle in the world, and have about 500 horsepower. Then you would be having some fun. :thumbup:

Ride safe


Dean

gixxerk1d
11-05-2006, 04:44 PM
i'm not sure how they limit the bikes with top speed. But @ 170mph i'm at about 14000 rpm. The bike sound like its struggling after like 160 something mph. MY boy with the 636 say his stop at 171mph and his shift light comes on. which he is very close to redline.

arlockstedt
11-06-2006, 02:34 PM
i have been re geared so i pet out the speedo at 190 but riding next to a stock 2005 gsxr 600 and him being topped out at 170 and i'm still pulling away from him on a 99 gsxr 750

arlockstedt
11-06-2006, 02:34 PM
so i might have hit like 175-178ish

SILVERK5
11-06-2006, 05:19 PM
All the japanese manufacturers have a gentlemen agreement not to produce motorcycles that go beyond 300 kilometers/hour. That's 186mph. ZX-14 and Hayabusa included. To do so, they mess up the timing of the spark in 6th gear passed a certain RPM... Thus reducing the power.

I know that my GSX-R1000k5 FLIES to 290km/h than... the engine hits a wall. I am pretty sure that with a TRE (device that restores proper timing), I would blow by 300kph (186mph) easily... A guy on another forum with an otherwise stock Hayabusa 2002 with a TRE did 193mph (measured with an on board GPS). I believe it. Takes A LOT OF HP to go beyond 200mph.

kb1982
11-07-2006, 01:41 AM
I ve read somewhere that top speed is limted by a timing retarder in sixth gear. Taking away timing would defintly kill your hp and your fun.

GSXRMarine06
11-07-2006, 07:14 PM
193 By a GPS that I took from work. But returned it later.

chuckieg123
11-22-2006, 10:34 PM
Just out of curiosity; for models with the 162 HP engine what limits the top speed to ~290 km/h? Is it air drag, a speed-limiter or the gearing?
Could the machine reach a higher top speed if the gearing was set somewhat higher? Not that I need or would want that, just curious. :-)

I have a K6 1000....I had it at 184 (according to the speed-o). As far as accuracy, I don't know, but I do know that's what the speed-o said.

2K6 1K
11-22-2006, 11:41 PM
I seen it posted in a mag. I have seen my speedo hit the magic 186 mark, don't have a GPS to varify how fast I was really going

Speedo`s are optimistic 4% to 8% with stock tires.
The GPS would be the closest you can get without a radar gun.
Of course unless you have a speedo healer dialed in.

Moto.
11-23-2006, 12:02 AM
The speedo stops at 186mph although I have heard it said that the revs will continue to rise (K5/K6 1000's)

yep...the speedo stops reading but you still keep going lol.

Ghostrider750
11-23-2006, 12:03 AM
I ve read somewhere that top speed is limted by a timing retarder in sixth gear. Taking away timing would defintly kill your hp and your fun.

TRE =timing retard el imitator. Basically what it does is trick the ecu to read a fuel map of 5th gear which doesn't trigger the speed governor. The top of 6th gear fuel map is where the speed governor is detected.

Moto.
11-23-2006, 12:06 AM
oops

2005gsxr
09-19-2009, 02:44 PM
I have a 05 gsxr 1k and a T.R.E. on it. I have touched 186 numerous times. With the tre off it blinks back in forth to 184-186. With the tre on it sticks at 186 and holds until i let out of it. Not sure what the actual speed is but indicated was 186 and rpm's still pulling.

antzgarcia
09-19-2009, 03:05 PM
Your digital speedometer will not read past 186

ok first of the digital speedometer can read any 3 digit number it does not stop.

top speed it governed at 186 through the 6th gear it gets retarded.

you can eliminate it buy using a mod GPS(gear positioning sensor), TRE( timing retard eliminator) or hack the ECU.

if your speedo says 186 i can probably promise it is wrong all speedometers are off a little like the guys before said you need a GPS(global positioning sensor) or speedohealer to know for sure what you are doing.

and a GPS can read up to any speed I have a buddy ran 255 at the texas mile and his GPS read that.

Dmcblaster
09-19-2009, 10:30 PM
Sometimes gearing down rather than up will bring a higher top speed. The reason is most stock bikes will not pull top gear to redline. The aerodynamic drag on a motorcycle increases with the square of the airspeed. So it takes a hell of a lot more power to go just a few mph faster. If you can gear the bike down to get the rpm up higher into the peak power band of your engine, your top speed could conceivably increase. In my race bike's case, gearing down substantially did not affect my top speed at all. It stayed the same, but it gets there a lot quicker, and the engine is revving a lot higher.

+1


Can anyone verify top speed on a k6-k9 600 with -1+2 gearing with gps or speedo healer?

Ive been trying to find out what gearing combo will start to make you lose top speed sinse these bikes are geared to tall to start with.

I have a k8 600 with a -1 front sprocket. Been thinking about doing the +2 rear but dunno cause of top speed loss, higher rpms at a certain speed, ect..

antzgarcia
09-19-2009, 10:37 PM
+1


Can anyone verify top speed on a k6-k9 600 with -1+2 gearing with gps or speedo healer?

Ive been trying to find out what gearing combo will start to make you lose top speed sinse these bikes are geared to tall to start with.

I have a k8 600 with a -1 front sprocket. Been thinking about doing the +2 rear but dunno cause of top speed loss, higher rpms at a certain speed, ect..

I am sure some one can get you close but every bike is different.

SV650K4
10-13-2009, 06:37 PM
has anyone ever done a top speed run with gps on an 08 gsxr 1000 and what is the recommended way or product for messing with the timing retard in sixth

yakitori
10-13-2009, 07:01 PM
TRE =timing retard el imitator. Basically what it does is trick the ecu to read a fuel map of 5th gear which doesn't trigger the speed governor. The top of 6th gear fuel map is where the speed governor is detected.

TRE effects Ignition timing, not fuel map.

and to everyone else...did we not notice that this thread is from 2006? Its like 3 years old guys.

antzgarcia
10-13-2009, 08:57 PM
has anyone ever done a top speed run with gps on an 08 gsxr 1000 and what is the recommended way or product for messing with the timing retard in sixth

yeah I have it is 186 with a speedo healer on a gps and the speedo said the same. if you want to test it another way you can by a cheap radar gun and check it that way too. Just don't ask a cop to do it lol I know you won't but my friend did :laughingr

SV650K4
10-13-2009, 09:18 PM
right it is 3 years old but its either get yelled at for an old thread or not using the search function so which is the lesser of evils?

i wonder what it would take to make it a 200 mph bike

antzgarcia
10-13-2009, 11:53 PM
right it is 3 years old but its either get yelled at for an old thread or not using the search function so which is the lesser of evils?

i wonder what it would take to make it a 200 mph bike

it would just be the same as using the tre or what all i listed above earlier in the thread. just depends on if you want it to get there or if you want it to get to 200 mph in one mile start to 200 that is what i want I want to get in to the 200 mile and hour club at the texas mile. might try for if next year and see how i do.

buddy34
10-14-2009, 01:56 AM
2004 gsxr 1000
988cc
yoshi full
tre
k&n
power com
custom map and tune
168 rrhp
high speed dyno run
speedo pegged out 186
but dyno read 181..

GSXRMICRXSG
11-05-2009, 06:17 PM
Since this thread has been revived and I'm a noob...what is a "GPS"? Is it a global position satellite device or something different? Because I didnt think the satellite devices could measure speed....that accurately anyway...:infrandom

OBK7GsXr
11-05-2009, 06:25 PM
40000000000000000.....ish

JFM GSXR 750
11-05-2009, 06:41 PM
I have done this in my garage several times. Kids don't try this at home. With the bike on a pit bull front and rear stand, run the bike thru all the gears and see what she tops out at. Both my 05 & 07 750 with a +2 in the rear top out at 186. But my 01 750 with a speedo healer and +2 rear sprocket wont go any higher than 172. That is at red line but not hitting the rev limiter.

If you have bs stands your bike could slip off and end up thru a wall or thru your neighbors house. :headshake

OBK7GsXr
11-05-2009, 06:52 PM
I have done this in my garage several times. Kids don't try this at home. With the bike on a pit bull front and rear stand, run the bike thru all the gears and see what she tops out at. Both my 05 & 07 750 with a +2 in the rear top out at 186. But my 01 750 with a speedo healer and +2 rear sprocket wont go any higher than 172. That is at red line but not hitting the rev limiter.

If you have bs stands your bike could slip off and end up thru a wall or thru your neighbors house. :headshake

lol..your fucking kidding..you've actually dont that???

Mister Tee
11-05-2009, 08:03 PM
I have done this in my garage several times. Kids don't try this at home. With the bike on a pit bull front and rear stand, run the bike thru all the gears and see what she tops out at. Both my 05 & 07 750 with a +2 in the rear top out at 186. But my 01 750 with a speedo healer and +2 rear sprocket wont go any higher than 172. That is at red line but not hitting the rev limiter.

If you have bs stands your bike could slip off and end up thru a wall or thru your neighbors house. :headshake

And do a Ferris Bueller. Yes, with no load on the engine, it will indeed top out and invoke the rev limiter. You could similarly destroy a Ninja 250 engine the same way.

But not a Honda 70. I've tried it.

TnecnivX
11-05-2009, 08:28 PM
I have done this in my garage several times. Kids don't try this at home. With the bike on a pit bull front and rear stand, run the bike thru all the gears and see what she tops out at. Both my 05 & 07 750 with a +2 in the rear top out at 186. But my 01 750 with a speedo healer and +2 rear sprocket wont go any higher than 172. That is at red line but not hitting the rev limiter.

If you have bs stands your bike could slip off and end up thru a wall or thru your neighbors house. :headshake

I cant even begin to explain how horrible of a idea that is. That engine is not meant to run at speed w/o resistance.

extreme terror
11-05-2009, 09:18 PM
ya man that just has bad idea alllll over it :lol:

ksj_6808
01-26-2010, 09:13 PM
for all those out there wandering what the 2006 gsxr 1000's top speed is, iv'e got good news...I was wandering the same thing so i bought a radar gun that is very accurate. I started exactly one mile from my brother who was holding the radar gun, and in exactly one mile the gixxer reached a top speed of 178mph and that was in 6th gear at 13,000rpm. i know everyone says they stop at 12,580 but for some reason mine jumped to 13,000rpm and i do not have a TRE installed on my bike (could have been the wind). anyways that was run #1, run #2 read 176mph, but that time it only went to 12,500mph. the average run on a good day on a good road is 172, 178 was my fastest run. I've done about 8 runs and it either says 176 or 172, i havent got it to say 178 again. It depends on the surface of the road, where your at on the road, the moisture on the road and the rider. So overall i would say that the top speed is 176mph.:thumbup: