freak_accident 03-23-2005, 05:56 AM Did anyone else here about that state trooper that is suspended for 15 days because how he addressed a sportbike accident call? his responce was "too Bad" thats crazy!!! His job is to dispatch medical assistance immediatly. I cant believe that he said that. they called back and his second response was "shouldnt be playing around". they finally got another person and got an ambulance on route to the scene but that completely blew my mind he did that. The guy died a week later cause of his injuries. the only picture i saw of him on a bike on the news was him on a zx6r without a helmet. i assume he had a helmet but he may have not had one on. but even if he didnt have a helmet and he was pulling some crazy manuver and went down the trooper didnt have the right to have that attitude or respond in that way. Personally i think it was very "PROFILE" like........ here is to that "TROOPER" :2hard Thats how "I" feel. just wanted to see if i was the only one who saw it on the national news this morning?
mulletman_jerome 03-23-2005, 06:06 AM Fire that jerks A**
regisfr 03-23-2005, 06:11 AM That's f__k up. Here is a link that I found
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151216,00.html
Dstrbd GSXR 03-23-2005, 06:46 AM Well.. IMO, wouldn't that be considered manslaughter? I know with a concealed weapons permit, if you have a weapon and don't act in a situation where other people's lives are in danger, then you are liable for manslaughter. (Long running sentence I know).
ZgixxeR 03-23-2005, 08:41 AM Supposedly he sent an ambulance. The messed up part is that he said "too bad" and hung up on the guy. He did tell them that help was on the way in the second call but then he said "shouldn't have been playing around" and hung up again. They had to call 911 three times to get someone to talk to them. I think a 15 day suspension is BS. He should be fired. I know people have bad days but his job is to answer EMERGENCY distress phone calls. He hung up on the guy and that is severly fucked up.
I think they should put that State Trooper and the guy's father in a locked room, give the guys dad a baton or stick and play him saying "too bad" and hanging up over and over on a speaker. Let the guy's dad at least feel a little better.
*disclaimer: Not all police officers are like this so let's not bash the good ones. I don't want to see a lot of cop bashing in here. If you have had bad experiences or know people that have then you can talk about it. You can also express your anger towards the bad cops but I don't want to see "all cops are pigs" or any other statements that are similar. You have the right to say it if you wish but I have friends that are good cops and I met them because they ride.*
skibum91 03-23-2005, 08:47 AM Well.. IMO, wouldn't that be considered manslaughter? I know with a concealed weapons permit, if you have a weapon and don't act in a situation where other people's lives are in danger, then you are liable for manslaughter. (Long running sentence I know).
Thats not true, atleast not here in Nevada, I have a CCW.
freak_accident 03-23-2005, 08:50 AM Well.. IMO, wouldn't that be considered manslaughter? I know with a concealed weapons permit, if you have a weapon and don't act in a situation where other people's lives are in danger, then you are liable for manslaughter. (Long running sentence I know).
i have a CHL and thats not truw from what i know... the 1 thing i can think of relating to manslaughter and concealed handgun liscenses is that if u fire the gun and shoot the intended person but the bullet travels through to the person behind them then thats manslaughter. if u shoot and the bullet hits the wall and falls on the ground and someone trips on it and breaks there hip in the fall then u are still responsible for it. thats the law in Texas. U shouldnt be able to be charged with manslaughter just cause u make the decision not put ur self in danger for a complete stranger.... i cant fathum that. i will tell u if u use ur firearm it will cost u about $20,000.00 :lol: cause they will take u to jail and until u prove that u did it in self defense u pay for the laywer and most likly u wont get the gun back. Gun laws are only for the law abidingcitizen. some of them are pointless but thats way off topic sorry!!! im lookin for a news video so i can post it. ill edit this if i find it.
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here is one of my local stations with a short video...
http://www.nbc5i.com/news/4309759/detail.html
freak_accident 03-23-2005, 08:57 AM *disclaimer: Not all police officers are like this so let's not bash the good ones. I don't want to see a lot of cop bashing in here. If you have had bad experiences or know people that have then you can talk about it. You can also express your anger towards the bad cops but I don't want to see "all cops are pigs" or any other statements that are similar. You have the right to say it if you wish but I have friends that are good cops and I met them because they ride.*
my uncle is a police officer. i dont hate cops, i just have a big problem with this "TROOPER" If i was the father i would be calling my attorney. And making sure he got sh*t canned for the complete unrofessional handeling of the situation
Dstrbd GSXR 03-23-2005, 09:50 AM i have a CHL and thats not truw from what i know... the 1 thing i can think of relating to manslaughter and concealed handgun liscenses is that if u fire the gun and shoot the intended person but the bullet travels through to the person behind them then thats manslaughter. if u shoot and the bullet hits the wall and falls on the ground and someone trips on it and breaks there hip in the fall then u are still responsible for it. thats the law in Texas. U shouldnt be able to be charged with manslaughter just cause u make the decision not put ur self in danger for a complete stranger.... i cant fathum that. i will tell u if u use ur firearm it will cost u about $20,000.00 :lol: cause they will take u to jail and until u prove that u did it in self defense u pay for the laywer and most likly u wont get the gun back. Gun laws are only for the law abidingcitizen. some of them are pointless but thats way off topic sorry!!! im lookin for a news video so i can post it. ill edit this if i find it.
With mine.. they say if I have a clear shot without anyone in the open I HAVE to take it. I also have to hit them in the chest area, and not the face or limb. Ohh well... I don't carry my .45 around anyways.. I just have it so if it is in my car, I don't have to hear any crap from the cops.
freak_accident 03-23-2005, 01:22 PM thats wierd. as fas as the "have" to hit them in the chest area.. what is the penalty if u hit them in the stomach and they die. or u shot them in the neck. what is the penalty. have is a wierd word to use in law. texas test is 20 rounds at 9 feet, 20 rounds at 21 feet, and 10 rounds at 45 feet. u have to hit at least 70% in the chest area which is a score of 5 each time. for a total posable score of 250. i made a 248 out of 250. using thier glock 17 i rented. it was a good gun. like it alot. so much i bought a glock 19. I carry often. and u warn (saying something like: I am armed and i will defend myself)as u raise and aim ur weapon and fire a single round. if the persuer doesnt stop by the time the gun recoils back down u fire again and u continue this till the threat is neutralized. no more no less. it may be 1 shot it may be 6 shots. thats just what it is in Texas. What state do u live in and/or what state is the liscence issued for? im curious about the laws there.
wicked 1 03-23-2005, 02:26 PM in washington, you don't have to take a "test". you fill out an app. and then they do a background check and fingerprints. if you pass that part, they give you a licence. we call them CWP (conceled Weapon Permit)
BallHawk3 03-23-2005, 03:10 PM look at the poll on that site, 954 people said that the punishment was too harsh, about 2% of the votes. People must not like motorcycles.
itsagixxer 03-23-2005, 06:23 PM I think they should put that State Trooper and the guy's father in a locked room, give the guys dad a baton or stick and play him saying "too bad" and hanging up over and over on a speaker. Let the guy's dad at least feel a little better.
and then when the dads beat the shit out of him and the troopers calling for help say "too bad" and beat the shit out of him again...
"to serve and protect"...........riiiigghht :2hard :2hard
gsxrnat 03-23-2005, 07:02 PM I dont know anything about the handgun laws but know that it is unlawful to not stop and help someone that needs help. what is it failure to render assistance in an emergency situation? I do know that we ate shit on the 95 freeway (vegas) in a wheelie (doubles) and an off duty metro pulled over and helped out. not only did he check to make sure we were ok but loaded thebike in his truck and took us home (noone needed meds) he was very cool but It is my experience that many police people hate stunters:( I myself love to see a cross over or tank wheelie leg spreader in traffic :) yum ! So are the handgun laws not federal? im a little lost. I do agree that that particular trooper needs to be prosecuted somehow. Jobless....
freak_accident 03-24-2005, 05:44 AM if u want to lear alot about different states handgun laws here is the best site to go to. IMO...
www.packing.org
skibum91 03-24-2005, 06:36 AM I dont know anything about the handgun laws but know that it is unlawful to not stop and help someone that needs help. what is it failure to render assistance in an emergency situation? I do know that we ate shit on the 95 freeway (vegas) in a wheelie (doubles) and an off duty metro pulled over and helped out. not only did he check to make sure we were ok but loaded thebike in his truck and took us home (noone needed meds) he was very cool but It is my experience that many police people hate stunters:( I myself love to see a cross over or tank wheelie leg spreader in traffic :) yum ! So are the handgun laws not federal? im a little lost. I do agree that that particular trooper needs to be prosecuted somehow. Jobless....
Gun laws are controlled by State authorities, not federal. Thats why the laws very so much.
gsxrnat 03-24-2005, 08:10 AM Oh I see!!!
ZgixxeR 03-24-2005, 09:39 AM Oh I see!!!
said the blind woman! :lol:
skibum91 03-24-2005, 09:41 AM said the blind woman! :lol:
To her deaf son! :thumbup:
freak_accident 03-24-2005, 06:52 PM i know this is kinda beating a dead horse but here is texas' law for protecting a third person. Notice nothing about "having" to. it depends on the situation if its leagl or not.
§ 9.33. DEFENSE OF THIRD PERSON. A person is justified
in using force or deadly force against another to protect a third
person if:
(1) under the circumstances as the actor reasonably
believes them to be, the actor would be justified under Section 9.31
or 9.32 in using force or deadly force to protect himself against
the unlawful force or unlawful deadly force he reasonably believes
to be threatening the third person he seeks to protect; and
(2) the actor reasonably believes that his
intervention is immediately necessary to protect the third person.
Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.
zombieman 03-24-2005, 07:36 PM Sounds to me like someone needs to start a potition and get this jerk fired. Im a police officer and would love to beat this dudes ass myself. He is a discrass to all officers and has no right being in his position of authority. I dont care if he was having a bad day or not. All actions in life have consiquences, Ive seen fellow officers, (some of which were close friends) go down for some serious shit in regards to there position. However they did the crime, so there doing the time. If you cant handle the authority then get your lame ass outa the seat and let someone else have the position. Opps, kinda getting off track here. Anyway, Im sure there will atleast be a civil suit against this officer. Its called "EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW" and clearly includes matters of this sort. This is a clear violation of the young mans civil rights. His parents could actually have recourse even though there son was an adult. Lets just hope there is some real justice for justin later down the road.
bigjimbo 03-24-2005, 10:31 PM a good book to read if you carry in FL is
Florida firearms: Law, use & ownership
5th Edition.
It breaks down the laws into plain english. And ive actaully learned from the book.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/offer-listing/0964195828//103-2008289-9209466?condition=all
2004gsxr1000 03-26-2005, 06:30 AM the dispacher who handled the call should be givin a much more severe punishment, im in ct not far from where the accident happend and people are pissed at the way the call was handled. the problem is the way he responded to the first call, due to where the accident was. when he recieved the call he asked for the location (which is a area that a lot of people play around, and get hurt) and was told where it was he said "you need to stop playing around there" and gave the caller a bad attitude,when she called back he didnt say if help was already in route or any thing and again gave them a hard time about goofing around on that road. finally 3rd call a person told them help was comming. i know several law enforcement people and am good freinds with a few and i can say they are very pissed and what this guy did. granted the kid probally should not have been doing what he was doing, but thats not the point, when a call for help is made it needs to be handled in a speedy and professonal manner, worry about lecturing a person at a better time.
Reyd1 03-26-2005, 07:48 AM Oops....didn't see this thread... I'll post the link for the petition here too
Sign to get this bad cop fired! (http://www.petitiononline.com/Peasley/petition.html)
gsxr_teen 08-10-2005, 07:17 PM god damn cops he should be fired not suspended u know fu** him here is what i think :2hard :fu:
stackle2 09-17-2005, 12:58 PM [QUOTE=Dstrbd GSXR]Well.. IMO, wouldn't that be considered manslaughter? I know with a concealed weapons permit, if you have a weapon and don't act in a situation where other people's lives are in danger, then you are liable for manslaughter. [QUOTE]
ooops, not in my state....um, looking at packing.org, and not seeing any states where that is the law, you might want to check that out..think someone lied to you...that is like saying since I am cpr trained, I have to stop at every accident....um, nope...although i would, I don't have to...oh wow, now I look like an asshole...I am going to shut up
gsxr_teen 09-17-2005, 06:45 PM fuckin cops they cant stand looking at us have fun he can suck my di** well this how i feel :2hard i remeber when i was on my pocketbik a cop took the keys he said ''its ilegal to ride ride these'' damn i wish i could have said fuck off u fat pig
Engloid 09-17-2005, 08:07 PM if you have a weapon and don't act in a situation where other people's lives are in danger, then you are liable for manslaughter. (Long running sentence I know).
Actually, no. The fact that you exercise your right to carry a firearm doesn't obligate you to use it under any circumstances.
stackle2 09-17-2005, 08:49 PM a good book to read if you carry in FL is
Florida firearms: Law, use & ownership
5th Edition.
what does that have to do with the topic?
PHiBRELiNX 09-17-2005, 11:03 PM This is sad. RIP for the kid, too young..
And it was a fucked up response by that Trooper"
But there's something about Bikes and some Cops..
..They just don't like them.
No offense to the people who fuck around on bikes, but that's what it is,Too many bikes out there that are fucking around too much, and the cops get more crazy. This also certainly affects the bikers who don't fuck around.
Most "bikers" out there, specifically on 'race bikes' have now bad reputations.
Many people always think that when there's a biker on a 'race bike'
they always assume "He's crazy, he's going to wheelie, he's going to go really fast, he's going to swerve all over the road, go between trucks and cars etc. and he's going to die.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/PHiBRELiNX/GsxrBanner3.jpg
stackle2 09-18-2005, 09:05 AM Most "bikers" out there, specifically on 'race bikes' have now bad reputations.
That is for damn sure where I live...people assume that the one guy that cut them off and did some lame stunt on a 96 ninja represents us all...I hate that. Me and my crew do our shit at night, on an old airstrip, or if we need more room, we go to a apprx 2 mile straight part of the highway out in the boonies of bfe west virginia and do our shit, out of public view...too many assholes stunting and racing in traffic, ruins it for us all
crash187ct 09-19-2005, 08:30 AM my dad was a state trooper, i'm thankful not all cops are dick heads. he should probably be taken care...and never again have a radio attached to his uniform...better yet, not have a uniform at all... :hmmm:
nirwhistlr 10-24-2005, 01:22 PM yea..pick your bullets up after you shoot..if someone tripped on one that would not be good
stackle2 10-24-2005, 02:40 PM yea..pick your bullets up after you shoot..if someone tripped on one that would not be good
coule be a liability suit for the pigs...you shoot someone 47 times in self defense, then some innocent old lady trips on the spent shells and breaks a hip and its all over for your career.... :arsenal
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