Motul 3000 4T

Couldn't find anything on this oil, anyone knows if it's allright to use? (k7 600, normal street riding) + is there a good website that sells non-synthetic oil? the ones listed in the websites section sell mostly synthetic:headscrat

Do you mean the 300V full synthetic, or is this a different oil? I run it myself, great oil. Just don't use it or any other synthetic until you have at least 5,000 miles on the engine, and use the proper weight recommended in your manual.

no, it's different. non-synthetic. they sell it on www.ronayers.com and some others but has no feedback or reviews that I could find. What brand of non-synthetic oil would you recommend? Thanks!

I see. Most brand name motorcycle specific standard oils are about equal. Do a search in the general tech section - there are a ton of threads out there.

Do you mean the 300V full synthetic, or is this a different oil? I run it myself, great oil. Just don't use it or any other synthetic until you have at least 5,000 miles on the engine, and use the proper weight recommended in your manual. Ive used synthetic from day one in all my machines with no problems. Thats a myth. High performance cars come off the lot with synthetic oil in them.

Ive used synthetic from day one in all my machines with no problems. Thats a myth. High performance cars come off the lot with synthetic oil in them. Oh you won't have "problems", you just won't get the maximum mileage and efficiency from the engine, that's all. No it's not a myth, I had to write technical papers about that in the engine design program at Cornell. I don't care how high of a tolerance modern engines can be machined to, wear still occurs and there are other factors at play as well. Yes some specialty limited production cars with pre-broken in engines do ship with synthetic oil since their engines break down conventional oil too quickly for practical use, but that's not our bikes, and almost all trucks and automobiles.

Oh you won't have "problems", you just won't get the maximum mileage and efficiency from the engine, that's all. No it's not a myth, I had to write technical papers about that in the engine design program at Cornell. I don't care how high of a tolerance modern engines can be machined to, wear still occurs and there are other factors at play as well. Yes some specialty limited production cars with pre-broken in engines do ship with synthetic oil since their engines break down conventional oil too quickly for practical use, but that's not our bikes, and almost all trucks and automobiles. Sorry man. Not trying to start an argument, but I have to disagree. There are big rigs running synthetic from the getgo with more mileage than conventional oil runners. I have a honda fourtrax with 13000+ on it, still runs great with synthetic from the start. Synthetic, IMO, is just plain better right from the start. I have seen enough to call all the "rings have to seat" BS.

Sorry man. Not trying to start an argument, but I have to disagree. There are big rigs running synthetic from the getgo with more mileage than conventional oil runners. I have a honda fourtrax with 13000+ on it, still runs great with synthetic from the start. Synthetic, IMO, is just plain better right from the start. I have seen enough to call all the "rings have to seat" BS. That's your perogative, but GM, Ford, Toyota, Cummins and Caterpiller and a few others will tell you that if you do not allow an engine to achieve a final fit and polish on the bearing surfaces, you will not optimize power and oil control, even if the engine will otherwise last for a very long time. I'll agree with you that for some engines, the difference is probably academic though.

I use nothing but Motul oil since I worked at Ducati. The Amsoil peeps are knocking at my door to buy but I'm in no hurry seeing that I don't need an oil change right now. Motul is a great oil and smells like an old liquor :yumyum: . Motul costs me about $30 for one gallon of sythentic goodness. L8R, Sterling

Well, after doing some research decided to go with regular Suzuki oil, got it from Oneida.com $9.99/gallon + s&h changed it yesterday, so far so good:thumbup:

ill go with mrtee on this one , vehicles that come with syn from factory should aways get syn , {normally high performance engines} , None hypo come with heavy detergent oil for proper break in , after break in syn is ok , as a Chrysler tech were always getting tsb's {tech. service bulletins}that address this issue , just my 2 cents

Oh you won't have "problems", you just won't get the maximum mileage and efficiency from the engine, that's all. No it's not a myth, I had to write technical papers about that in the engine design program at Cornell. I don't care how high of a tolerance modern engines can be machined to, wear still occurs and there are other factors at play as well. Yes some specialty limited production cars with pre-broken in engines do ship with synthetic oil since their engines break down conventional oil too quickly for practical use, but that's not our bikes, and almost all trucks and automobiles. Total Myth for quite a few years now... There is no Break-In required and no performance lost.. The initial recommended "Break-In" period is to get machining and casting debris out of the engine. I changed the oil out of my bike at 660 miles. Cooler oil temps, less noise, smoother running and better fuel mileage. Bob S ADG

I feel constipated. Maybe I need more fiber in my diet.