Engine Break In Procedures

Mister Tee
03-27-2008, 12:12 PM
As many engine break-in threads as we have, we need a sticky on it for reference. So what I’m going to do, is go ahead and open this for discussion, let it run a while, and then sticky it. Engine design has changed very little in the last 50 years. What has changed significantly is electronic engine controls, ignition systems and fuel systems, and of course oil and lubricants. What hasn’t changed significantly is metallurgy, materials, and manufacturing techniques. Engine parts have been typically machined to tolerances within 10,000’s of an inch for the last 30 years. There are various schools of thought on engine break-in. The two basic ones are 1) Break it in per the manufacturer’s recommendations, and 2) use the “Mototune” method (http://www.mototuneusa.com). Let's talk about what happens inside the engine when its broken in: When an engine is broken in, these four processes occur: 1. Casting defects, rough machining, and burrs wear off and go in to the oil and filter. This happens over the course of a couple hundred miles. 2. Rings are “seated”. When we talking about seating the rings, it isn’t the rings themselves that “seat”, but wear on the cylinder walls that has to happen just right or they either won’t seat, or the surface will be polished, both of which are objectionable. Steel and cast iron cylinders are honed in a cross-hatch pattern in such a way that after the rings seat and wear the cylinder wall smooth, there are still grooves remaining that can hold oil, which is critical for engine cylinder life. With aluminum engines, the same thing happens, except that it’s rough electrodeposited cylinder lining that has to wear partially to obtain a smooth surface, and provide oil control. If these wear too much, or too fast, the whole process has to be redone. This can happen in a time span ranging from an hour, to about 1,000 miles. 3. Bearing surfaces are polished and work-hardened. Journal bearings work on a combination of a hard metal/soft metal contact, and thin film lubrication. Steel crankshaft, cam shaft and connecting rod bearing surfaces are burnished and work-hardened on the surface during the initial phases of engine operation. Too high of a loading, and/or RPM on these bearing surfaces can score them before work hardening occurs. This process takes a few hundred miles. 4. Cylinder, head and crankcase castings are heat cycled. Heat cycling does two things: It changes the shape of the casting, and alters clearances, and secondly, for some alloys (both ferrous and aluminum) it also hardens and strengthens the metal. What is important here is that the engine is sufficiently heat cycled during initial break-in, while there is still a rapid rate of wear on the mating surfaces. This process typically takes several hundred miles. You don’t want to run a new engine for 500 miles straight if you can help it – you want it to cool down completely a few times. Once these things have happened, the wear rate decreases to a very low rate, if all went well. And wear will continue throughout the life of the engine. This is actually beneficial, to a point, since mating surfaces continue to burnish and smooth themselves, and FULL OIL CONTROL is achieved. However, once clearances are lost, wear becomes detrimental. The point at which beneficial wear continues ranges from about 5,000 miles, to about 10,000 miles on most engines. Most motorcycle, automotive and truck engine manufacturers prefer that all four of these process be allowed to play out prior to applying full power to the engine, which is why they typically specify an initial break in period ranging from 1,000 to 3,000 miles, prior to which you can apply full power and RPM to the engine. Accelerated engine break in procedures (e.g. http://www.mototuneusa.com) are not new. Similar procedures have been researched by engine manufactures, and developed primarily as a means for breaking in new race engines. Race engines are re-built at frequent intervals, sometimes as much as every race. Because of this, standard recommended break in procedures are very inconvenient (and costly) for a race engine due to the time, fuel and distance factors. Accelerated procedures allow for processes 1 and 2 to occur, but not 3 and 4. This isn’t typically an issue for race engines, since they are rebuilt frequently anyway – or, for that matter, the majority of sportbikes which generally meet their demise in a crash before they reaches 5,000 miles. I won’t go in to detail on the procedure, you can read it in the site. Which method do I use? I always use the manufacturer's recommended method. Deviating from that can potentially void the warranty (although establishing that might be difficult) and I want to guarantee that I have an engine that is capable of lasting 100,000 miles or more. That isn't to say you can't "Mototune" your engine and have acceptable results, but we can discuss both sides and you can choose which way to go.

M_Easy
03-27-2008, 12:24 PM
Good stuff, Tee. :thumbup::thumbup:

SoCalrider
03-27-2008, 12:55 PM
The Tee is my hero. That is the most interesting thing i have read on here in a couple weeks.

Awesymoto
04-04-2008, 10:06 PM
run it hard and fast... or manufacture specs. I go manufacturer. hard and fast is used alot in dirtbikes around here because they are re-built so often and are easy to take apart. I believe the thought is that they are set at racing specs so at racing conditions they operate true to life.... screw that. Manufactuer FTMFW.

GSX-R..ider
04-05-2008, 05:48 AM
I use the Moto method on all powersports machines. No problems yet. 13,000+ on a 1993 Hond fourtrax with no motor or tranny trouble. 2ATVs, 2Bikes, Snowmobile, Boat. No trouble.:thumbup:

GSXRMills750
04-05-2008, 06:37 AM
Good stuff! :arsenal

UltimatE
04-07-2008, 05:06 PM
FWIW Porsche recommends the load/unload method of breaking in a newly rebuilt engine.

Face Raper
05-22-2008, 04:24 PM
well in my case i bought my bike used with 124 miles. but who knows how the owner rode the bike or why did he sell it but ever since i got it i been using the moto method seems to me i been having problems lately ever since i got an oil change my rpm stop at 12, in 1st gear. same in 2nd gear, didnt try 3rd yet. 2200 miles +

Corge
06-09-2008, 09:00 PM
Very interesting read Mister Tee, best I've seen for break-in of engines so far, nice to see an article which describes some of the physical processes taking place. However, I can't help but ask for references and citations for the facts stated -- I will not be surprised if I read an equally convincing article from someone else, who states different facts -- how can I know what to trust? Everything stated does sound plausible and reasonable to me, but without being rude I must say it holds no real value (besides being an interesting read) without proper references and citations; it would be excellent if your article had some references to mechanical academia where applicable. But even if you should not agree, thank you for posting it anyway. :-)

Mister Tee
06-16-2008, 04:14 PM
Agreed, Corge, unfortunately my references are bound textbooks and hard copy white papers sitting in manufacturer R&D files. Although certainly these references are citable, it's a time consuming effort to round them up. I may just do that though, when time permits. I'm sure that anyone that is interested in the subject matter will do some independent research on their own. Most engine manufacturers have done a ton of research on the subject, but unfortunately they tend to be guarded on what they choose to share publicly.

SteveMcqueen
07-02-2008, 10:56 PM
I have used the moto method on all my bikes. 300 miles with a petroleum based oil and she is ready for full throttle. Change the oil to synthetic and your done. (Never use a synthetic for break-in)

gsxrfreak
07-07-2008, 11:03 PM
I have mixed feelings about this, I know all about mototune and use some of his principles in breaking in engines, but I do not take new engines to redline. I agree with motoman about using petroleum based oil in engines until about 1500 miles, then go to full syn. What I basically try to do is just constantly vary the engine speed during the first 200 miles, with fairly hard acceleration (to a point) in 4th, 5th, and 6th gears, then closing the throttle completely- the load/unload procedure. Avoid freeways during that time, not good to keep constant engine speed in one gear. I also change the oil after the first 25 to 35 miles of this. I have seen tiny metal particles in the oil after it has been changed. Never had any problem with any bike doing these things.

coonracing
07-14-2008, 06:53 PM
So lets say i buy a brand new gsxr today..about how long, or how many miles should it be rode(per time) before i can really drive it?

Mister Tee
07-15-2008, 11:27 AM
So lets say i buy a brand new gsxr today..about how long, or how many miles should it be rode(per time) before i can really drive it? Your manual will tell you. It varies by the bike and year, but typically rpm limitations are under 8,000 for the first 600 miles, and under 12,000 for the next 400. After that you can redline it.

coonracing
07-16-2008, 12:49 PM
Your manual will tell you. It varies by the bike and year, but typically rpm limitations are under 8,000 for the first 600 miles, and under 12,000 for the next 400. After that you can redline it. sweet man thanks!

boxer
07-24-2008, 05:11 AM
So lets say i buy a brand new gsxr today..about how long, or how many miles should it be rode(per time) before i can really drive it? Read the manual. :cool: below 6500rpm first 500miles below 10000 rpm 500-1000miles above 1000miles keep it below 13750 i.e. red mark.