trouble gettin on 1 wheel in 2nd

i got 1st gear up no problem now im havin trouble with second. any tips...its an 05 750

practice, practice, practice.

Can you power a 750 up in 2nd gear? or does it have to be clutched up

The 750 will probably need to be clutched up in second, although with a bit of tuning and gearing it'll come up sweet-as-a-nut off the power. Personally, I don't think there's any need for anyone to dick about with the gearing too much for street-stunting - face it, we ain't all Kev Carmicheal, AC Farias. or Mokus. ;) Try riding at about 45mph, dab the back brake, then simultaneously raise the revs to about 4-5000rpm and flick the clutch lever in/out. It'll lift sooooo easily. Actually thinking about it, try it from 2500rpm first then work your way up, just to get used to it. What happens is; you are using the back brake to compress the front suspension, as you release the brake the front lifts. With practice, you time this rise of the front-suspension with the flicking of the clutch and the upwards motion continues with very little effort. It's a technique that a lot of the stunters use because it means you're already covering the back-brake for when it's all about to go tits-up :bounce

I have a completely stock '04 750 and if I bounce on the front and hit it I can pull up in second easy with no clutch.

when you guys are all talking about "bouncing" to get the front up do you mean hitting the back brake like the guy above mentioned? im also havin trouble gettin it up with the clutch in 2nd.... stock 05 600

hitting the back break or giving a quick firm push down on the bars to compress the suspension, followed by a quick lean back and wide open throttle to take advantage of the spring rebound from the front suspension. basically trampoline the front end hoping to help lift it up higher when you smack the throttle open. gotta time it right and it's a bounce. works with rear break too or atleast thats what i make of bounce. seems to work for me :lol:

hitting the back break or giving a quick firm push down on the bars to compress the suspension, followed by a quick lean back and wide open throttle to take advantage of the spring rebound from the front suspension. basically trampoline the front end hoping to help lift it up higher when you smack the throttle open. gotta time it right and it's a bounce. works with rear break too or atleast thats what i make of bounce. seems to work for me :lol: what speed(s) does this work?

it works in 1st sitting, 2nd and 3rd standing for me.. i can get the wheel off the ground using power or a tiny clutch slip and a lil bounce. I usually get scared and don't go up high enough to hold it when it's in any other gear than first

oh, i forgot, i have to add "ON A 99 600" after everything i post so nobody gets confused an tries this shit on a 1k or something, cause that will flip ya

haha, yea just compress the forks and on the rebound whack the throttle and it will come up. the other night i was hoisting a 04 gix 1000 up in 3rd sit down 0no clutch. once i get usued to stand ups it'll be golden, and i have yet to clutch up the 1000

i got the inverted forks for my 98 750 and find it hard to compress my forks!! i just pin it in first til i ge tto 6-8K rpm's then close the throttle and quickly put it to 100%.......i get the front off the ground at least 6-12 inches everytime, and about 1/4 of the time i can get the front wheel off the ground a good 2-3 feet! PS: i just started to try wheelies on my gixxer on thursday!

isnt it crazy how once you start to see progress you just dont want to get off the thing? haha. i want to try doing some stand ups in 2nd gear but i dont feel too safe standing up and pullin the front end off the ground. im fighting with that issue while my buddy's are sittin on their tanks with their damn feet over the windscreen riding wheelies. he does that shit on a 2001 r6. bastard ;)

well toda yi went out and i was running on fumes.......... i tried to wheelie it 3 times and all 3 times i got it up about 3 feet at only 5K rpm's. after i filled my bike, i couldnt get the front wheel off the ground once! i never realized how much it makes a difference on the amount of gas thats in the bike!

I have a completely stock '04 750 and if I bounce on the front and hit it I can pull up in second easy with no clutch. what rpm's are you at when you bounce it up?

gas can make a big diff................my buddy jumps on my bike 02 600 geared all sorts of treats and can ride it for ever standing or sitting... :headshake i cant lift it up a foot???????? i dont think im giving it all i can when i stand so im gonna try sit downs in 2 and really wack it open with a good pull...it just gets so much scarier when you are that mjuch faster

Its all about weight distribution, get your nuts off the tank and lean back when u crank it, my 05 600 comes up as high as I want it too in 1st and 2nd gear power wheelies, u won't b able to ride em out for very long though, clutching is far more consistent and reliable

Its all about weight distribution, get your nuts off the tank and lean back when u crank it, my 05 600 comes up as high as I want it too in 1st and 2nd gear power wheelies, u won't b able to ride em out for very long though, clutching is far more consistent and reliable about how fast are you going in second gear?

She comes up for me at around 9-9.5 grand, right around 60-65mph but i'm pretty light (150lbs) so it may take a little more for u

She comes up for me at around 9-9.5 grand, right around 60-65mph but i'm pretty light (150lbs) so it may take a little more for u thanks alot imma go try it tonight and see what happens.I weigh just as much as you so i'll try it at about 8-9 rpm's in 2nd.Thanks again for the info. :thumbup:

Good luck and ride safe, remember to scoot back a little in your seat and lean back as much as possible (don't put any weight on the bars) and she should come right up

Yeah, I've been practicing 2nd gear clutch too. I have first gear down like butter. Sat afternoon popped 1st gear and gave it too much gas. My homie said I almost looped it! She went like 10-11 o'clock before i chopped the throttle and slam my bike down. Ouch my nuts! No more messing with first gear. As far as second, I've popped it at 5-6k and it only came up like 1-2 foot. So Sarasota, I have to pop it at like 8-10K right? Do I have to be going 50-60 or could I pop 8-10k at 20-35 mph?

i have a 05 600 i can bump up in 4th its all cake if you know what your doin

i have a 05 600 i can bump up in 4th its all cake if you know what your doin Dayum, 4th gear?!? Do you have to bounce it than? Yeah, I have an 04 600 and still trying to get down 2nd gear so I can do it on open street roads.

yeah, bumped it up right, like a couple of inches right? I go at like 5-6k stand and clutch hard, probably drop it around 10-11 but you don't want to watch the tach, do it just by feel and listening to the engine. You also have to stay on the gas harder and longer than you do in 1st. 1st comes up almost instantly, 2nd takes a second or two to get all the way up so you have to stay on the throttle. I say this over and over, standing up makes it so much easier to get it up, standing staggered makes it even easier and once you get used to the feel of it is much more comfortable for long ones. the biggest thing is just to go out and practice.

Nice, are you using rear pegs?

when you are standing up is easier just bounce the whole bike up and down its all timing and on the up give it throttle...granted you have to have the revs and speed right or it wont work or it might work a little bit but youll get it

Nice, are you using rear pegs? Put your shifting foot on the rear peg and your brake foot on the brake peg just incase you need to bring it down fast.

im gettin the hang of 2nd gear wheelies now...just hard to find the bp...but like everyone says practice practice practice....very true

hey man joel here from oz.Got a gixxer 600 k5 and I backed off the preload one full ring and it raised the front. Mine came stock on the forth ring and felt too damn low. If you don't know but I'm sure you do its the blue things on the top of your forks. I'm not trying to imply you don't just in case. put in on the 5th ring and you'll find it pops up easier and handles a bit better too. I pulled a first geary the other day with out even thinking and almost lost it but I hope that helps.