Florida Laws To Become Active On Oct. 1, 2008

http://laws.flrules.org/node/4580 just as a reminder, watch out on how you ride guys/gals.. btw, reading these laws, it looks like they can fine you the $1000 for a tag that is improperly mounted.. correct me if I'm wrong, if there are any lawyers in our midst...

ddddddddddddaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmm, g/l with that!!!!

f-ckin a$$holes!

If the improper tag placement is true, they will make a killing in Central Florida...I just hope my tag will pass.:infrandom

This shit is completely and utterly absurd. The plate thing is just a way to rape everyone with no KY. Seriously...go catch some real criminals.

From my understanding, I haven't read that link, that the improper tag display ticket must be observed while the rider is on the bike.

i agree with everyone about the new laws, THEY SUCK!!!!

I don't know about the tag fine being 1000.00. I just got a ticket for my tag being "obscured." I was doing nothing wrong and on my way to classes. The bitch was making sure that nobody was speeding through the school zone (which is good imo), and then rushed out and pulled me over because she couldnt "read my tag." And instead of giving me a warning... she gave me a $94.00 ticket. So I dont know about the new law. BUT THAT IS REDICULOUS. Go catch the real criminals and stop messing with people that are obeying the law. (*TRYING* to obey the law).

new law starts in OCT. 2008

I don't know about the tag fine being 1000.00. I just got a ticket for my tag being "obscured." I was doing nothing wrong and on my way to classes. The bitch was making sure that nobody was speeding through the school zone (which is good imo), and then rushed out and pulled me over because she couldnt "read my tag." And instead of giving me a warning... she gave me a $94.00 ticket. So I dont know about the new law. BUT THAT IS REDICULOUS. Go catch the real criminals and stop messing with people that are obeying the law. (*TRYING* to obey the law). Consider yourself lucky, only a month away and that ticket would have been $1000.

http://laws.flrules.org/node/4580 just as a reminder, watch out on how you ride guys/gals.. btw, reading these laws, it looks like they can fine you the $1000 for a tag that is improperly mounted.. correct me if I'm wrong, if there are any lawyers in our midst... How did they get this law passed???????? That is retarded 1000.00 for that. what do you get for speeding or Stunting????????

How did they get this law passed???????? That is retarded 1000.00 for that. what do you get for speeding or Stunting???????? ------------------------------------------------------------------- How did they get this law passed???????? I probably shouldn't say anything, because I'll piss people off. They got it passed because the same morons who caused this wouldn't stand up to protest. Why would they care they will continue to this and flee from LEO's. The problem is the problem. The same one's who stunt and show off excessively........When you ask them to go volunteer on something like a state of disater(hurricane, flooding, etc) will generally decline. They don't care about our "public perception". They are the problem. Why would these morons care about this law?? They intentionally taunt Law Enforcement, with a law maker riding with LEO and videotaping. These same type of people brag on gsxr.com, gixxer.com and youtube about doing wheelies,burnouts in front of cops. Don't believe me look at youtube.Ever notice how many comments are on this site bragging and advocating running from the law. A few responsible mods will comment against it and then ignore the topic. Because it will just start a internet Rambo. speeding 50 mph over and stunting = (same thing) 1000, 2500 (2nd offense), 5000 automatic felony (3rd offense

------------------------------------------------------------------- How did they get this law passed???????? I probably shouldn't say anything, because I'll piss people off. They got it passed because the same morons who caused this wouldn't stand up to protest. Why would they care they will continue to this and flee from LEO's. The problem is the problem. The same one's who stunt and show off excessively........When you ask them to go volunteer on something like a state of disater(hurricane, flooding, etc) will generally decline. They don't care about our "public perception". They are the problem. Why would these morons care about this law?? They intentionally taunt Law Enforcement, with a law maker riding with LEO and videotaping. These same type of people brag on gsxr.com, gixxer.com and youtube about doing wheelies,burnouts in front of cops. Don't believe me look at youtube.Ever notice how many comments are on this site bragging and advocating running from the law. A few responsible mods will comment against it and then ignore the topic. Because it will just start a internet Rambo. speeding 50 mph over and stunting = (same thing) 1000, 2500 (2nd offense), 5000 automatic felony (3rd offense I agree w/ you. If a stunter has stunt bars and 12 o'clock bar and what ever else, Why are you on the street, Maybe to show off and Piss off the police? These are the same ppl who ride w/ out a helmet so ppl can see them. Iam 48 and back before stunters, All we used to do is ride fast and never did we ever have the problems we see today.....And as of oct 1st you can be charged w/ a feloney if you go 30 over.

Not to argue but the new law takes 3rd offense for felony.But 30 over has always been justifiable for a reckless driving which I believe is a felony. Once u said u were 48 I said dang I'm getting old. Apparently wisdom and a need to ride sensibly therefore making me feel old. I'm only 32. The new law was written for 50 mph over they upgraded from the original proposal of 30 mph over.

This new law is vague. It seems to target vertical tags but does not mention tags mounted horizontally up under the tail. Please click the link and read the statute and give your opinion on the subject of tags mounted undertail. Thanks! http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0316/Sec2085.HTM

my opinion is that is kinda what they are going against. I imagine in 6 months there will be changes or we will know what they are doing.

This new law is vague. It seems to target vertical tags but does not mention tags mounted horizontally up under the tail. Please click the link and read the statute and give your opinion on the subject of tags mounted undertail. Thanks! http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0316/Sec2085.HTM With due respect to lawyers on this list - my 2 cents - That was my first thought about the tag law- it is very poorly worded - "horizontal" by definition would mean that the plate (plane) needs to be mounted face up and perpendicular to gravity - if you mounted your plate this way there would be no way you wouldn't beat the law in court - the wording about being adjustable is odd also - it would seem to mean that because my license plate is mounted on a bracket that could be bent that it is in effect "adjustable" - I may need to add a small gusset to make it non-adjustable" - of course after they lose a few cases in court they will close these loopholes with better language (amazing to me that some lawyer drafted such a piece of crap anyway):headscrat

http://laws.flrules.org/node/4580 just as a reminder, watch out on how you ride guys/gals.. btw, reading these laws, it looks like they can fine you the $1000 for a tag that is improperly mounted.. correct me if I'm wrong, if there are any lawyers in our midst... I read it. Sounds like we should be fine. All it says: (3) The license tag of a motorcycle or moped must be permanently affixed horizontally to the ground and may not be adjusted or capable of being flipped up. we should be ok. I'm guessing its when ppl have it mounted vert on swingarm

and fast tags which is a device that flips the tag at a push of a switch.

I was recently awarded a ticket from FHP for having my tag mounted vertically off my swingarm. The officer had issue with the fact that the rear wheel was blocking the tag if he was following off my right rear. If your tag is mounted undertail and the exhaust pipe is blocking the plate from rear angles that may also open the door for them to pull you over. I am sure we will see aggressive cops writing people up for anything that they don't like on that particular day so standby. I hope they pop a lawyer right out of the gate and he opens a can whoopazz on these rediculous fines for such minor infractions.:arsenal

hope they pop a lawyer right out of the gate and he opens a can whoopazz on these rediculous fines for such minor infractions.:arsenal we can only hope.......

i THINK MOST LAWYERS ARE MORE HARLEY TYPE,AND COPS GENERALLY DON'T EVEN BOTHER HARLEY DRINKING AND RIDING BAR HOPPING HARLEY RIDERS.

ugh gd this bullshit

That has to be the best thing they did, I can't stand when people have to stunt right next to you thinking they are cool and when they leave every light. As for the tag, the only ones that have it hidden are the people that are mostly causing the problems! :bowdown:

^^^You got to be joking^^^^ The law won't affect those that hide their tag or stunt. Because those are the ones who will be running now. They ran for 180 dollar ticket, so u know they gonna run for a grand. Guess what now they can pull you over and say you were the one who was stunting and ran from them.

How many laws will the government be able to pass trying to "protect" the public before people start noticing they have almost no freedom left?

How many laws will the government be able to pass trying to "protect" the SHEEPLE before they start noticing they have almost no freedom left? corrected it for you.. and I agree, it's only going to get way worse before it gets better (hmmm, revolution time again?!)....

Anyone get bagged yet? I walked a nice wheelie yesterday but no po-po around, haha. :thefinger

50 over here in Ontario the cops take your bike or car. Stunting better hope they don't catch you :thefinger

damn, the popo was out in full force yesterday... troopers all over the roads that lead to the various thursdays' bike nights.. they even had a chopper up around the SR826 area.. no one in my group got roped, even though we were hitting the corners fast and hard after leaving the hangout... needless to say, they had a lot of bikes pulled over yesterday (from what i personally saw), and issued over 60 citations (from what someone told me, after hearing it on the news)...

the economy is that bad for them to try to rack up on HIGH A$$ fines. taxes aint doing it so they have to figure out how to get revenue somewhere. LOL

I don't even like to go out on bike night that much anymore for that reason alone. It's like hunting season and we're the deer. :headshake

I don't understand how a tag offense can be $1000. If a car was driving without a tag, would it be a $1000 fine?? What if I mount my tag horizontal, perm, and backwards?? (letters facing forward). This law seems so unconstitutional. (cruel and unusual punishment) If someone was to prove the same offense for a car held different punishment, that should prove it's cruel unusual,and unconstitutional.

As far as the 50 mph over part, if u ran a radar jammer they can't cite you for 50 mph without pace clocking you. Then you would only be liable for the radar jammer law if applicable. (where there's a will, there's a way) "It's not the size of the dog in the fight,it's size of the fight in the dog." MARK TWAIN

The bottom law is you have to be convicted. You can be arrested every day of the week for murder but without a conviction you are not a convicted felon and can still possess and carry concealed lawfully.

Like I said before other states will follow. The City of Oakland , California has made a decison to ban all Motorcycle Parties . Yes this is a violation of our civil rights ,but in order for us to stand against this injustice we must rally together as one and let them know that we will not stand for this .We will be meeting on Monday at the Syndicates Clubhouse so that we may make preparations to find a resolution to the situations at hand. In addition we will be preparing for the Ride and March to City Hall . Our biggest Violations are lack of proper paperwork ( did you know you need a permit for all events over 50 people profit or non-profit) second is the noise ordinance ( loud pipes / burning rubber) after the events. We are asking everyone connected to the Motorcycle Community to please come out and support we are all we have. This will and is affecting you. MONDAY 6P.M. Syndicates Clubhouse 1357 5th Street Oakland , California TUESDAY 6 P.M. Meeting Begins Oakland City Hall is located at: 1 Frank H. Ogawa Plaza, between 14th and 15th Streets at Clay Street

Like I said before other states will follow. The City of Oakland , California has made a decison to ban all Motorcycle Parties . Yes this is a violation of our civil rights ,but in order for us to stand against this injustice we must rally together as one and let them know that we will not stand for this .We will be meeting on Monday at the Syndicates Clubhouse so that we may make preparations to find a resolution to the situations at hand. In addition we will be preparing for the Ride and March to City Hall . Our biggest Violations are lack of proper paperwork ( did you know you need a permit for all events over 50 people profit or non-profit) second is the noise ordinance ( loud pipes / burning rubber) after the events. We are asking everyone connected to the Motorcycle Community to please come out and support we are all we have. This will and is affecting you. MONDAY 6P.M. Syndicates Clubhouse 1357 5th Street Oakland , California TUESDAY 6 P.M. Meeting Begins Oakland City Hall is located at: 1 Frank H. Ogawa Plaza, between 14th and 15th Streets at Clay Street Does this non meeting of the bike MEAN ALL BIKERS, EVEN H.D.??

was just showing we will continue to be discriminated against. others will follow.

I will never stop again ,they are now going to have to chase me. I hope this is what the law was intended for. Now the cops will get hayabusas and kill themselves chasing me. Florida is a nazi state. When will it end............

And btw........f11ck all the drunk harley riders and their drag pipes, The cops give them passes and they crash every where.

So do the Florida laws apply to bikes riden to FL from Georgia with GA tags and plates?

So do the Florida laws apply to bikes riden to FL from Georgia with GA tags and plates? From what I understand no matter where you're driving or what state you're in or registered in you must follow the guidelines and laws for the state you're riding in. For instance, on my car I have dark tint, which is legal in FL, but when I was stationed in NC I got pulled over for it all the time and was told I needed to take the tint off or pay the ticket (but being a female I utilized the titty clause) haha

^^useless with out pics, LOL.^^^

but being a female I utilized the titty clause DOH! let us know if that works against any of the $1000 tickets, if you were to get pulled over for 1...

DOH! let us know if that works against any of the $1000 tickets, if you were to get pulled over for 1... HAHA I'll let you know, hopefully I won't get in that situation though.

well the law sucks, we all agree on it, but I heard that they stopped and gave out about 30 tickets on friday(10/03/08) by miami beach area, apparently it came out on the news, am trying to find the video of it, and was told that shows how they are blocking 836 west towards miami beach.......this is BS...cars go over the limit also, maybe not as fast as a bike, but they dont get a 1k ticket for a non horizontal tag display or speeding...... and just found out that the law for vehicles is still the same, $250 for speeding 30 over the limit, this law its only meant for bikers....great thats a real nice increase. I wander if the cheif of police and carlos had this plan setup to get a new house at the grove? as our mayor and chief of PD, last year got caught buying a 6 mill house at the grove and trying to sell it at 12 mills.....gotta love what they try to do with our tax money....dam why didnt i become dick....oops i mean politician.

That law must have been aimed at south and central Florida. I've noticed no changes.

well the law sucks, we all agree on it, but I heard that they stopped and gave out about 30 tickets on friday(10/03/08) by miami beach area, apparently it came out on the news, am trying to find the video of it, and was told that shows how they are blocking 836 west towards miami beach.......this is BS...cars go over the limit also, maybe not as fast as a bike, but they dont get a 1k ticket for a non horizontal tag display or speeding...... and just found out that the law for vehicles is still the same, $250 for speeding 30 over the limit, this law its only meant for bikers....great thats a real nice increase. I wander if the cheif of police and carlos had this plan setup to get a new house at the grove? as our mayor and chief of PD, last year got caught buying a 6 mill house at the grove and trying to sell it at 12 mills.....gotta love what they try to do with our tax money....dam why didnt i become dick....oops i mean politician. The new laws cover all vehicles. The first night the law was in effect, they arrested on biker for 150 in a 65 and one Mustang for 145 in a 65. The cops hit the local bike night in force, towing 9 bikes. 2 for riders with suspended licenses or warrants, the one they picked for 150/65 from the air, and 6 stolen bikes. Regular speeding fines still apply. but 50 over can mean a $1000 fine, same with stunting.

I want to see some news media on this.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-flbspeed1005pnoct05,0,6871280.story

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-flbspeed1005pnoct05,0,6871280.story there just going to increase motorcycle chases! this is rediculous. economy is that bad. like i said. they got to get revenue some where!:headshake

according to article they have already hit people under the new law.

cut and pasted this from a member, from another local site... but i cannot confirm if this is true or not... I am not going to say his name,but a good friend of mine got busted for doing 53mph over the speed limit.I guess they added more to the law or something too. They impounded his bike for 45 days. Immediate revoked license for 30 days. Has to take a safety class. 1,000.00 fine Court date

Wow. Better keep it at 49 MPH over.

Why they will just round it up. Or get you for reckless driving. I see many flaws with this new law. One what if the bike is running a radar jammer???

damn, track days are starting to look "cheaper", compared to this current BS.... definitely gotta scan your area (including the sky, for either a chopper or plane) before you crank it, and be prepared for the consequences if you do, and get lit...

I hope I can add some clarity on this. The tag infraction simply makes the "Improper Display" statute a moving infraction, which carries points and a slightly higher fine amount (In Highlands County it's $139.00). Certainly not $1000.00. The $1000.00 fine applies to the 50 MPH over offense. The improper display of a tag was previously a non-moving infraction which was only $89.00 in Highlands County (varies across the state) and no points assessed. If your tag is parallel to the ground while standing upright, you are not affected by the amendment. If your tag is tucked under your tail or attached horizontally to your swingarm, you would still be affected by the improper display statute. According to this statute (which also applies to every motor vehicle) your tag must be affixed horizontally to the rear-most part of your vehicle with no obstructions and up-right (loosely translated). I hope this adds clarity. THERE IS NO $1000.00 FINE FOR IMPROPER TAG DISPLAY. My agency just received the email today about the 50MPH over law amendment and we have not received clarity on the fines or punishment; however I can tell you if it is similar to the previous criminal citation for 30MPH over, you will be given a court date where a judge assesses your fine amount, and released at the scene. If I receive anymore information I will update this thread. If anyone has questions feel free to email or PM me.

Caelos Lopez Cantera's office was telling people it was a grand for tag offense. see this post http://www.gsxr.com/showthread.php?p=693548#post693548

If your tag is parallel to the ground while standing upright, you are not affected by the amendment. If your tag is tucked under your tail or attached horizontally to your swingarm, you would still be affected by the improper display statute. According to this statute (which also applies to every motor vehicle) your tag must be affixed horizontally to the rear-most part of your vehicle with no obstructions and up-right (loosely translated). I hope this adds clarity. thanks for trying to clarify the situation... but if you're a LEO, that's part of the problem right there, your "interjection of your loose translation" into said law.. the law doesn't state that the tag has to be up-right.. i've had many LEOs say crap about it, and actually had 3 write me tickets, even after i read them the law and what it says, explicitly... this is due to the fact that my plate is parallel, but is at a slight angle to match my undertail.. regardless, all plate numbers and letters were legible, as outlined by said law.. therefore i took all 3 tickets to court and got them beat and dismissed.. was just a waste of my time and tax-payers' money.... bored mofos should go catch some real criminals... below is the actual statute: The 2008 Florida Statutes Title XXIII MOTOR VEHICLES Chapter 316 STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL View Entire Chapter 316.605 Licensing of vehicles.-- (1) Every vehicle, at all times while driven, stopped, or parked upon any highways, roads, or streets of this state, shall be licensed in the name of the owner thereof in accordance with the laws of this state unless such vehicle is not required by the laws of this state to be licensed in this state and shall, except as otherwise provided in s. 320.0706 for front-end registration license plates on truck tractors and s. 320.086(5) which exempts display of license plates on described former military vehicles, display the license plate or both of the license plates assigned to it by the state, one on the rear and, if two, the other on the front of the vehicle, each to be securely fastened to the vehicle outside the main body of the vehicle not higher than 60 inches and not lower than 12 inches from the ground and no more than 24 inches to the left or right of the centerline of the vehicle, and in such manner as to prevent the plates from swinging, and all letters, numerals, printing, writing, and other identification marks upon the plates regarding the word "Florida," the registration decal, and the alphanumeric designation shall be clear and distinct and free from defacement, mutilation, grease, and other obscuring matter, so that they will be plainly visible and legible at all times 100 feet from the rear or front. Vehicle license plates shall be affixed and displayed in such a manner that the letters and numerals shall be read from left to right parallel to the ground. No vehicle license plate may be displayed in an inverted or reversed position or in such a manner that the letters and numbers and their proper sequence are not readily identifiable. Nothing shall be placed upon the face of a Florida plate except as permitted by law or by rule or regulation of a governmental agency. No license plates other than those furnished by the state shall be used. However, if the vehicle is not required to be licensed in this state, the license plates on such vehicle issued by another state, by a territory, possession, or district of the United States, or by a foreign country, substantially complying with the provisions hereof, shall be considered as complying with this chapter. A violation of this subsection is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

[QUOTE=JIXXX;693675]thanks for trying to clarify the situation... but if you're a LEO, that's part of the problem right there, your "interjection of your loose translation" into said law.. the law doesn't state that the tag has to be up-right.. i've had many LEOs say crap about it, and actually had 3 write me tickets, even after i read them the law and what it says, explicitly... this is due to the fact that my plate is parallel, but is at a slight angle to match my undertail.. regardless, all plate numbers and letters were legible, as outlined by said law.. therefore i took all 3 tickets to court and got them beat and dismissed.. was just a waste of my time and tax-payers' money.... bored mofos should go catch some real criminals.. [QUOTE] As an LEO, I'm not part of theproblem, I'm trying to help people understand how these statutes are read and undrstood by other LEO's and agencies. When I told you it was a loose translation, I meant exactly that, so again, when I told you the tag must be upright, I was referring to the part of the statute that reads "Vehicle license plates shall be affixed and displayed in such a manner that the letters and numerals shall be read from left to right parallel to the ground." (meaning, not upside down). The part about your tag being at the same angle as your undertail would fall under this part, "No vehicle license plate may be displayed in an inverted or reversed position or in such a manner that the letters and numbers and their proper sequence are not readily identifiable." The statute also states that all characters of the license plate must be PLAINLY VISIBLE from 100 feet. This means if your tag is at an angle which prevents it from being "readily identifiable" and "plainly visible" from 100 feet to the front or rear, you could be stopped and cited for improper display, which is the non-moving citation with the lower fine amount (around $89.00). If you fought and won, more power to you, I can tell you traffic court is very dependant on how well the officer presents the probable cause for his stop, and whatever kind of mood the magistrate hearing the case is in. There is no consistancy whatsoever in traffic court and cannot be relied upon for solid case law. I'm not posting in this thread to argue court cases with you or statute wording. God knows this thing is written horribly, but until some people start fighting these, and the poor writing results in case law updates, (which basically clarify interpretation) it will remain open to individual interpretation. I am posting here in an attempt to help people understand what's expected. It sounds like most people here are trying to conform to the proper way, and I am just trying to help that occur. Are there cops out there who cross the line and interpret laws and bend rules in ways that seem unfair and unconstitutional? I would be lying if I said we were all saints. I can only speak for myself and those few comrades I call friends. If you attach your tag the way I described, you should not be bothered. As for the fine amount, I have read it several times and asked my supervisor about it. The way it's worded it sounds like the fine amount for the tag would be $1000.00; however in chapter 318 they go on to describe the new speeding amendment, and make no mention of the tag display. I am currently on night shift, but my first day off, I will call the State Attorney's Office and ask for clarification. I am honestly trying to help, from one rider to another. I enjoy ms GSXR1000 as much as anyone here. Just trying to make things better for everyone. I would hate for someone to run from a cop and get hurt because they think they're about to get slapped with a $1000.00 ticket because their tag isn't at the exact right angle.

I'm sad to report I received the new traffic fine amounts today, and the fine amount for the tag being displayed vertically rather tan horizontally is indeed $1,139.00 for a first offense, along with failure to keep both wheels in constant contact with the ground. A second offense of 316.2085(2)(3) is double that at $2,300.00 (approximately, not looking at the sheet). I'm sorry to have misinformed you, but it really did seem to be way to high. I can tell you the fine amount blew away everyone at my department as well, because it's just unheard of. Also, 50 MPH over the speed limit is a $1,070.00 citation and a mandatory court date, which means you aren't arrested and on your citation you will be given a misdemeanor court date to appear before a judge for further sentencing. Again guys, sorry to report such bad news, but aside from the speed, I really hope you guys will do everything in your power to display your tags properly. I personally will not be issuing the citation for it, but it's just a really dumb thing to get jacked up over by someone who may just be anxious to write a $1000.00 ticket.

I hope I can add some clarity on this. The tag infraction simply makes the "Improper Display" statute a moving infraction, which carries points and a slightly higher fine amount (In Highlands County it's $139.00). Certainly not $1000.00. The $1000.00 fine applies to the 50 MPH over offense. The improper display of a tag was previously a non-moving infraction which was only $89.00 in Highlands County (varies across the state) and no points assessed. If your tag is parallel to the ground while standing upright, you are not affected by the amendment. If your tag is tucked under your tail or attached horizontally to your swingarm, you would still be affected by the improper display statute. According to this statute (which also applies to every motor vehicle) your tag must be affixed horizontally to the rear-most part of your vehicle with no obstructions and up-right (loosely translated). I hope this adds clarity. THERE IS NO $1000.00 FINE FOR IMPROPER TAG DISPLAY. My agency just received the email today about the 50MPH over law amendment and we have not received clarity on the fines or punishment; however I can tell you if it is similar to the previous criminal citation for 30MPH over, you will be given a court date where a judge assesses your fine amount, and released at the scene. If I receive anymore information I will update this thread. If anyone has questions feel free to email or PM me. --------------------------------- So this is false??

yep.... good luck to those who haven't changed their improper tag display/positioning... $1000 a pop, CONJO!!!

--------------------------------- So this is false?? Yes....my previous post was incorrect. The fine amount is in fact over $1,000.00. I apologize for the confusion, but I honestly did not think there was any possibility they could post a fine amount that high.

Yes....my previous post was incorrect. The fine amount is in fact over $1,000.00. I apologize for the confusion, but I honestly did not think there was any possibility they could post a fine amount that high. I agree. That's like price gauging. How can it even be legal to impose fines that high...

This laws fine is unbeleavable. I can see half for the stunt on the streets but the tag being vertical get a grip. All it is these extreamest is breathing down there necks to push this. All the ppl making these laws ride Hd's and Vic's. and I bet they think that it's only kids out there causing trouble that ride these bikes and are out of control. All it takes is one bad apple and it ruins the whole bunch. You tube loves those types of vids.

Actually some of the hd riders were affected by the tag part of the new law.

My girlfriend was pulled Oct 7th for improper tag placement and all she recieved was a 99 dollar ticket. So, is it possible that the new law(s) are at the descretion of the officer?

got a text from 1 of the guys that i ride with once in a while.. he just got 2 tag infraction tickets... $2000... needless to say, he's taking them to court..

got a text from 1 of the guys that i ride with once in a while.. he just got 2 tag infraction tickets... $2000... needless to say, he's taking them to court.. Be sure to let us know how it goes for him in court.

All I can say is wow. I've now started to consider changing my major from Nursing to Political Science just to combat these laws. MotoPopo, don't you worry though, get pulled over and throw those magical words around: "I'm a cop" & I'm sure you'll be just fine. For the rest of us, I wish you the best of luck. Be patient, follow the rules. I'm 100% sure after some time and a few court battles, this bill will be deemed unconstitutional & certainly unreasonable by all means. NOTE: MotoPopo, I'm not attacking you or your profession, but you must admit there is a very, how shall I say this, HIGH level of respect between fellow LEOs. Oh, how I wish I could rip my 07 Mustang GT down the Palmetto the way that **DARE** officer ripped his newer-generation-ruby-red-Mustang-GT-with-boyracer-body-kit did. Must be nice.

thats some bullshit £30 fine here .been pulled over loads of times for small plate but never been fined.

Be sure to let us know how it goes for him in court. DEFINITELY....

[QUOTE=UGotShaked;701233]All I can say is wow. I've now started to consider changing my major from Nursing to Political Science just to combat these laws. MotoPopo, don't you worry though, get pulled over and throw those magical words around: "I'm a cop" & I'm sure you'll be just fine. For the rest of us, I wish you the best of luck. Be patient, follow the rules. I'm 100% sure after some time and a few court battles, this bill will be deemed unconstitutional & certainly unreasonable by all means. QUOTE] I know a pretty good lawyer who im going to try to talk into fighting this law...im sure he would do it for free with all the publicity he would get. I think I might just have to go out and bend my plate down and drive in front of cops all day :thefinger .

All I can say is wow. I've now started to consider changing my major from Nursing to Political Science just to combat these laws. MotoPopo, don't you worry though, get pulled over and throw those magical words around: "I'm a cop" & I'm sure you'll be just fine. For the rest of us, I wish you the best of luck. Be patient, follow the rules. I'm 100% sure after some time and a few court battles, this bill will be deemed unconstitutional & certainly unreasonable by all means. NOTE: MotoPopo, I'm not attacking you or your profession, but you must admit there is a very, how shall I say this, HIGH level of respect between fellow LEOs. Oh, how I wish I could rip my 07 Mustang GT down the Palmetto the way that **DARE** officer ripped his newer-generation-ruby-red-Mustang-GT-with-boyracer-body-kit did. Must be nice. Absolutely correct. Professional courtesy is what I believe the term is. I've personally never had any extended my way, but I've given it many times. I don't consider it much different than the 100's of traffic warnings I give average citizens a year though. I'm not sure however; myself or any other officer for that matter could overlook 50 mph over or wheelies on public roads, no matter who we discovered was operating the bike at the time.