GSXRsix 07-26-2005, 08:08 AM I have been told that some bikes, especially suzukis are not the greatest stunt bike. Mainly when doing wheels, since the the oil pump is located in a weird spot, if you ride a high wheelie out for a while, you could starve the engine for oil and blow it? Is this true? People tell me to run about a quart over, but im scared to run that much over, couldn't that damage anything? What do you guys do with your bikes? What mods are best as far as safety precautions go for stuntin gixxers? Thanks.
SarasotaGSXR 07-26-2005, 08:16 AM I've heard that about gixxers too, personally I don't add any extra oil, now I'm not rockin 12's or anything yet but I've been ridin wheelies out for a while and never had a problem.
gixxerk3 07-26-2005, 04:29 PM yea i have heard the same thing too but it is only really a problem when you are doin 12's or at least close too it. I do wheelies all the time and i have never had a problem either. I dont think you really have to worry about it unless you are going to be doing a lot of 12s and in that case you could move the oil pick up further towards the back. then you could rock 12s all day and never have a problem. :thumbup:
Dstrbd GSXR 07-26-2005, 04:56 PM I wouldn't worry about blowing up anything unless you are 100% verticle. In my opinion either the 929 or the 2001-2003 gsxr 750... 1000's are the best stunt bikes. I've heard soo many good things about the 929's stability, but haven't had the opportunity to ride one.
MikeyzGixxer 07-26-2005, 05:43 PM the most i have every had was my bike would puff or a sec. anfter a 12 scrap, that and my shiftin work fro some reason be alil stiff(also felt like the clucth would still grab a lil when i was at a ligth kinda wanted to go, but only after a 12??)
wickmaster 07-26-2005, 05:46 PM If your gonna wheelie a gsxr. Put an extra half quart of oil in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Been told that by racers, stunnas, and engine builders. It will not hurt anything. I will almose gaurenteeeeeeeeee you will not blow it up!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will not.
wickmaster 07-26-2005, 05:47 PM If a 10 mile slow wheelie is not enough for ya then I dont know what is. The slow ones are alot higher than the fast ones. :thumbup:
ZgixxeR 07-26-2005, 07:22 PM I fill mine to the top notch in the window. Before I started that my oil light would come on when I rode more than 1/8 mile. Now it never comes on.
GSXRsix 07-26-2005, 10:32 PM If your gonna wheelie a gsxr. Put an extra half quart of oil in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Been told that by racers, stunnas, and engine builders. It will not hurt anything. I will almose gaurenteeeeeeeeee you will not blow it up!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will not.
So do you guys recommend putting like 4 and 1/2 quarts in it? I am no where near ready to start 12's, but id like to be able to hit the BP and ride out a wheelie for as long as the road allows and not worry about starving the engine for oil. Do you guys do anything to your bike that stunt it a lot? Anything extra you might do, or basically its good stock? I have frame sliders, which help, but I might upgrade to a cage, run a 1/2 quart over, anything else you guys do? Thanks for the help, oh and I have a 02 600 btw.
LittleFoot 07-26-2005, 11:53 PM Wear Your Gear
GSXRsix 07-27-2005, 10:59 AM Wear Your Gear
I always wear my gear, if I don't have it on and someone asks me to wheelie, I tell them no, haha. I'm not risking getting hurt for someone else's entertainment. I just wish it wasn't so hot out, I feel like I am going to die wearing those leathers, I have to wait right before sunset so go stunt! So once I start doing twelves, its a good idea to move the oil pump back a little bit? Will that hurt regular riding? What about doing stoppies with the oil pump back? I want to have my cake and eat it too, haha. Is there a company that makes a kit for the gixxer to prevent oil starvation?
REVLIMIT 07-27-2005, 11:19 AM If you really want to make sure your motor doesn't go but don't want to add extra oil. You could pick up the stunting oil pickup that moves it more toward the rear.
GSXRsix 07-27-2005, 01:17 PM If you really want to make sure your motor doesn't go but don't want to add extra oil. You could pick up the stunting oil pickup that moves it more toward the rear.
Where do you get that at? Im pretty new to stunting and bikes in general, so sorry about the noob posts etc. It doesn't affect every day ridability does it? I don't stunt everytime I get on my bike, but i'd like to be safe when I do. Thanks.
kracker 07-28-2005, 10:25 AM Where do you get that at? Im pretty new to stunting and bikes in general, so sorry about the noob posts etc. It doesn't affect every day ridability does it? I don't stunt everytime I get on my bike, but i'd like to be safe when I do. Thanks.you can find the stunt oil pickups at www.stuntex.com , I would recomend just putting a little extra oil in the bike if your an everyday rider, Over filling it just a little will save you money in the long run due to starvation.
GSXRsix 07-28-2005, 03:21 PM Yeah, I just run a half quart over for now. I saw that stunt oil pickup, I think I will just wait and get a stunt bike next year to mess with and modify, keep my gixxer nice. Thanks for the replys.
gsxrguy098 07-30-2005, 01:40 AM i ran 5 quarts in my 01 750 for as long as i had its safe
johnnylovely 07-30-2005, 07:53 AM Running too much oil is a bad idea. When you overfill the oil enough to allow the bottom of the crankshaft to come in contact with it, it creates foaming in the oil, decreasing the effectiveness of it and causing air bubbles to form.
It also creates an excessive amount of oil pressure which is bad for gaskets, seals, etc, shortening the life of your engine.
I know this is a fact in car engines, i'd imagine the same would apply for bikes.
I think any kind of stunting causes excessive wear to the engine, trans, clutch and forks. Not to mention all that nice body damage :thumbup:
JL
wickmaster 07-30-2005, 08:10 AM It also creates an excessive amount of oil pressure which is bad for gaskets, seals, etc, shortening the life of your engine.
JL
How can this cause too much oil pressure?? So what you are saying is if you have an old car and it is low on oil pressure, you could just add 2 more quarts to it to regain your pressure back???? HAHAHA thats the dumbist thing I think I have ever heard. :laughingr :laughingr :laughingr :laughingr
johnnylovely 07-31-2005, 07:15 AM As the crankshaft rotates it will churn the oil, causing aeration and eventually sustained foam to form. This can lead to overheated motor oil and oxidation. Spongy aerated oil is hard to pump. It starves the engine and critical lubricated surfaces. It creates excess pressure in the crank case
Think of it like this, the thicker viscosity of oil you use, the harder the oil pump has to work. When the oil is up to operating temp and has thinned out a bit then your oil pressure will drop to normal. Aerated oil is hard to pump all the time.
JL.
evilbologna 07-31-2005, 03:19 PM The GSXR is the worst stunt bike, ever.
:bounce :D :) :cool: :clap: :thumbup: :lol: :rofl: :laughingr :hmmm:
Clanktank 08-13-2005, 01:27 PM My old man, as a favour, once filled my bike with oil way past the window without me knowing it because he didn't know about the window and couldn't find the dipstick??????? A few miles down the road the oil started getting pressurised and pumped itself through the engine air breathers, into the air-filter housing and out onto the back wheel. Luckily I stopped when it started getting twitchy.
Bless him. :hammer:
saudibiker 08-14-2005, 04:45 AM If you allow me, I normally fill my 1000 K4 with 3 liters ( sinse we use liters fo volume in Saudi) and add .3 liters when I change the filter, that is about .88 gallons, and I have never saw my oil lamp goes on, the maximum distnce I did was 10 Km on 2nd gear thats around 6 miles, if you dont do more than that, I think nothing will be damged even without increasing oil, my spedometer reads 20000Km=12000 Mile, and I didnt even change the clutch yet.
over filling oil will cause the oile to leake out from motor rubbers and seald hitches under high RPM, so I dont advise to fill more than a gallon under any situation.
I heard about a test done in Unted Arab Emarites, where they tried a 1000 gsxr and Yamaha R1 on the 2nd gear wheelie, they claime that the r1 engine was damger after almost 18 minutes, while the 1KGSXR rerached over 25 minutes befor breking the engine. I am not sure of the information but I have friends who do 15 minutes a lot of time without adding extra oil and the engine is fine. :cool:
Got2josh 08-15-2005, 10:32 PM get the stuntex oil pickup, it moves the pickup from the front of the engine to the rear, pretty easy to install and usually eliminates starving during wheelies. Over filling by more than a quart or so isn't a good idea, it puts a lot of pressure on gaskets and stuff and can do bad things if it blows them. If you've done wheelies and had the oil pressure light turn on then it's time to get the pickup, or if you're doing long wheelies. You don't have to be 12ing for it to starve the engine
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