coming up fast!!

hey everybody im goona sound like a squid here.....ive got no problem pulling it up but it feels like it screams up super fast and i feel like im to high! and chop the throttle...i always power up...iwould love to know somehow the perfect spot...ive been trying to smack it open then let off some but it really flies up fast so natural instinct is to close the throttle..i need help or advice on this i would love to get it high enough fast enough to shift to 2 so its less twitchy...thanks guys(and suzuki girl..lol)

Clutch it up in second instead of trying to power it up in first and then shift, I know alot of people say clutching it up is no good for the bike but I've never had any problems and I clutch up all the time it far more consistent too

I don't even screw with the first gears. In sit down I try and clutch it up in second, bring it to BP and try not to be twitchy on the gas. If you pull them in first they are a little harder to control and you run out of gear fast. I think you need to practice holding them before you start thinking about shifting gears. Just find a good spot where you don't have to deal with a lot of traffic and practice you'll get them in no time.

are you standing up or sitting down while doing these wheelies? Standing up makes you get to Bp a lot easier and you can see where you are headed

I Always Clutch It In Second...where Should I Be Lookin To Power It Up...i Got The 05 750...i'm Havin Trouble Standing Too...i Cant Do Anything But Sit...any Tips?...and Any Tips On How To Shift While On 1 Wheele

All I can say about the stand-up wheelie's are practice practice and BTW hold on to your balls!! :lol:

:funny: so you don't crunch them on the tank when you chop that throttle :laughingr

:funny: so you don't crunch them on the tank when you chop that throttle :laughingr :lol: :laughingr :laughingr :rofl:

You need to get the front tire higher than 2 feet off the ground before you let off the throttle. (if you want the truth) :thumbup:

I can power first but trying to clutch 2nd... sigh

try lifting it at a lower rpm, compress the front

power up in first bring it way and and click into second its easy, but dont miss second it hurts...plus you have to bring it way up and let off right as you let off shift without the clutch..then you just have to play the throttle to keep it up youll get it someday its easy if you try...but i advise just clutching it up more predictable and perfect bp everytime if you do it right

The magic number in my 04 750 is 7,500rpms. I don't mess with first either. It is too twitchy and on my last bike I had to replace the shifting forks, 2nd gear, 6th gear counter shaft & the pawl gear. Anyways I do the following: Sitdown: I get her up to 7,500 rpms, move back on the seat and clutch her up to BP. Once at BP, you will know it cause the front gets really light and you don't pick up any more speed. I don't even have to shift outta second and can ride em for miles. Standup: Again, I get her up to 7,500 rpms in second, standup staggered, bounce on the pegs, throttle up to BP and ride her at around 65 until I decide to set it down. So far I can go 4 1/2 miles but you get massive arm pump after going that far :lol: my 2 cents

feels shaky when i stand..like im always lifting up sideways or something...also i dont feel like i can control the throttle very well from that postion.. :headshake

Like anything else, it's very strange at first. With practice, you will be fine. Eventually, you will be looking at people when you pass in a wheelie, looking back as you merge into other lanes. Took me about a week of constant practice to relieve the shakes (nerves). Really, the throttle control is not bad from that position. Practice leaning back too. Many lean way forward and end up chasing the wheelie alot. To slow it down, you will need to lean back. :cool: Here are a couple vids of me playin around....yes I know, the traffic but this kid doesn't have much footage to post so deal with it :lol: Also - the other two were on a crappy back road but hey, it's footage http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=bikes0002 http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Brian-two http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Brian-one feels shaky when i stand..like im always lifting up sideways or something...also i dont feel like i can control the throttle very well from that postion.. :headshake

Posted some vids above!

for some reason you guys make it seem like the front comes up nice and slow when you clutch it up...........i tried it twice and i almost fell off the back of the bike because it flung up so quick tha ti almost lost the hold on the handle bars.

I never clutch in a stand up. Only sitdowns in 2nd & 3rd. for some reason you guys make it seem like the front comes up nice and slow when you clutch it up...........i tried it twice and i almost fell off the back of the bike because it flung up so quick tha ti almost lost the hold on the handle bars.

I never clutch in a stand up. Only sitdowns in 2nd & 3rd. but i can only do power up wheelies and it doesnt feel like it comes up as smooth as it seems in those vids. mine seems like it comes up all at once. maybe its just me.

Have you ever tried the roll on, roll off, roll on technique? If not try it so you can learn better throttle control and just keep riding them out. Once you master that, shift the gears. By this time you will have a good handle on BP and throttle control. Then, attempt the stand up and go from there. It's a slow progression. Many of us forget to mention it when posting vids and people can't see all the work that went into learning wheelies. Take your time, have fun & most of all, be safe.

whats the rool on, roll off and roll on thing? is it while in a wheelie?

when i go to clutch up my 2k 600 my tire will just spin and i about loose it sometimes.... what should i do ?

1) get going about 35 mph in 2nd gear 2) dip the clutch with the LEFT index finger ( :rofl: ) 3) give it gas (don't look at the tach, just listen) 4) quickly release the clutch (don't dump it but a nice quick ease out) 5) at the same time the clutch is released, give it more gas 6) Boom. der it is :funny: If it only goes up a little, give it more gas in step number three. When I release the clutch and give it some more gas, I pretty much keep the additional twitst the same. I more or less metally try to keep the sound the same as the clutch engages. If you listen to the good guys, their sound is like viroo-vroom, the engine sound does not go in the mud as the clutch is let out. the sound goes down, but not a giant drop. I'm no expert though and don't get hurt. My biggest prob is I always go to some out of the way parking lot to practice. It would take weeks for someone to find my body. Or worse yet, I get to my cell phone a bloody mess, and I have no idea were I am. Good luck :burnout:

Nothing showed my how much of a little bitty chicken I was until I broke out the tripod. Whenever I though "wow! That was Cool!!", its was like a two to six inch pansy wheelie. A fortyfive degrees wheelie feels like your gunna loose it, but its a pretty safe wheelie. The camera tells no lies. And it take a while to start feeeling safe. I'm still working on it ... its too much fun to stop.

No - to do a power wheelie. Start rolling in 1st....roll on the gas, let off the gas and roll back on the gas all in a quick motion. SHe will come right up b/c your compressing the forks. Practice your power wheelies this way to get comfortable with distance & balance point. Then move on..... whats the rool on, roll off and roll on thing? is it while in a wheelie?

Get a new tire, stop practicing on wet roads and keep the chain lube on the chain. I also let some air outta the rear. I usually run anywhere between 25 to 31 psi. when i go to clutch up my 2k 600 my tire will just spin and i about loose it sometimes.... what should i do ?

I think he's doing one of two things: he's not giving it more gas as he lets out the clutch, or if he doesn't want to give it more gas as he releases the clutch (some people like to dump it), he needs to give it way more gas as he dumps it. The reason I like to give it more gas as the clutch is let go is that it keeps the rpms lower, and it feels more controlled. It just kinda walks up.

Why clutch when ya don't need to? Maybe it's just me? It comes up just as quick compressing the forks.

Why clutch when ya don't need to? Maybe it's just me? It comes up just as quick compressing the forks. For me, the clutch is more controlled getting it up to the ballance point, than powering it is.

Do you compress the forks at all?

No - to do a power wheelie. Start rolling in 1st....roll on the gas, let off the gas and roll back on the gas all in a quick motion. SHe will come right up b/c your compressing the forks. Practice your power wheelies this way to get comfortable with distance & balance point. Then move on..... thats what ive been doing....the only thing though is when i went to get an oil change and a new rear pilot power...the guy told me that i needed a new cam chain tensioner (cct) because my cam chain is really loose and that i shouldnt be driving the bike until i get it changed. im leaving sunday for 3 weeks to go to vancouver for work so im gonna get it fixed when i get back.

CNY750Rider Get a new tire, stop practicing on wet roads and keep the chain lube on the chain. I also let some air outta the rear. I usually run anywhere between 25 to 31 psi. I do have a new tire. about 500 miles on it. the roads arent wet. i could pry lower my psi.. that might do the trick.

what kind of tire did you get? cause that could make a difference!

dam Im'' still in the same situation here. I can pop and ride out first gear clutch wheelies for awhile. Just until rev limiter comes to play. I've been practicing second gear, and can't do it for shit!!!! :headshake I mean I tried scooting back and popping clutch at 10-11K and still noting. I get it up but it's like 1/2 foot or something. I want to pop high enough to where I can gas it up to BP, but can't even get it ihgh enough to start there. :headscrat

I ususally run Pilot Power's. I currently have Conti's on there now but hate them. The only reason they are on is because they were free. I don't think it's the tires tho. Unless they are showing cord, thats the only time mine really ever spion at all?

i have DUnlop 208.....

Dunslop's :lol Just kidding. Hope ya get it mastered.....

dam Im'' still in the same situation here. I can pop and ride out first gear clutch wheelies for awhile. Just until rev limiter comes to play. I've been practicing second gear, and can't do it for shit!!!! :headshake I mean I tried scooting back and popping clutch at 10-11K and still noting. I get it up but it's like 1/2 foot or something. I want to pop high enough to where I can gas it up to BP, but can't even get it ihgh enough to start there. :headscrat to be clutching it up, it kinda sounds like your revving it too high....... try clutching it anywhere from 5k-9k depending on the bike.

whats so bad about dunlop's ?

Personally...I hate em, they skate all over the place. They corner like crap and give you about 10% confidence. However, I'm use to race tires and also the pilot powers which are by far my favorite street tire. Just sharing what I've experienced. I hate Bridgestones Axes too....

well you can have your opinion on the tires. I personally think that they are good. I really like them.. Maybe ill go with lowering the air pressure in the rear. i did have it up at 42 cause thats what it said on the tire.... Thanks for the info.

The magic number in my 04 750 is 7,500rpms. I don't mess with first either. It is too twitchy and on my last bike I had to replace the shifting forks, 2nd gear, 6th gear counter shaft & the pawl gear. Anyways I do the following: Sitdown: I get her up to 7,500 rpms, move back on the seat and clutch her up to BP. Once at BP, you will know it cause the front gets really light and you don't pick up any more speed. I don't even have to shift outta second and can ride em for miles. Standup: Again, I get her up to 7,500 rpms in second, standup staggered, bounce on the pegs, throttle up to BP and ride her at around 65 until I decide to set it down. So far I can go 4 1/2 miles but you get massive arm pump after going that far :lol: my 2 cents How fast do u be going before u clutch her up

I think anywhere from 55mph to 65mph. Honestly, I really don't pay attention to rpms, or speed anymore. I just go by feel & noise? How fast do u be going before u clutch her up

well you can have your opinion on the tires. I personally think that they are good. I really like them.. Maybe ill go with lowering the air pressure in the rear. i did have it up at 42 cause thats what it said on the tire.... Thanks for the info. That might be why. 42 is the MAX temp. You should be running it at about 35-36 cold. Having it at 42 means its gonna take a long time to heat up or possibly even not heat up all the way, aka, slippery. Although you might get more mileage out of it...but personally thats not worth the trade off.

i did not know that peice of information... thank you very much, ill go lower the presure before i ride tomorrow.

i think one of the girls on here always gives some sound advice. i have been sceeming through the threads as well on 2nd gear clutch ups since i got first down. me being a girl myself i was wondering if the other female in here is up on one as well, if so wht kind of bike, and witch clutching no one ever makes it clear how fast to let the clutch out. if anyone can find a visual of someones handle bars as they clutch it up or something, let me kno, but i will continue my current method: get into 2nd, get to about 7k slip the clutch in about half way, rev on the gas to about 9-10 rpm and drop/slip the clutch.

Dump the clutch almost. Everythin else sounds fine. When startin out I recommend people on 1st gear poweries to bring em down with the rear brake instead of throttle closin. Kinda enhances the skills for later on. My 2 cents. :thumbup: