How to wheelie from a stop/slow roll?

GSXRsix
07-27-2005, 10:32 AM
I see all thesae stunt videos where people are pulling up wheelies going prolly under 5mph, they are setting up for tricks. Like when you see them pull a wheelie and then they balance it and go into a circle or something like that. Obviously you have to dump the clutch, but what rpm are you guys doing it at? A first gear clutch dump is going to come up fast, so when it goes, I am going to have to be on that rear brake in less then a heart beat huh? After that its all rear brake control? How do you keep from stalling? Giving it gas to keep it moving, but im trying to stay a slow roll sort of. Any input would be greatly appreciated, I know the best thing to do is practice, but I want to get some kind of input before I go out tonight and try it, and I will be wearing my gear! TIA!

Got2josh
07-27-2005, 09:12 PM
you pretty much explaned it yourself, I can't do slow wheelies yet but I hang out with some guys that are amazing. They all say learn bp first, then once you can ride it balanced out at like 30 start using the rear brake to slow it down. You want to be able to ride a wheelie good before you start trying to clutch it up from a stop or else you probably won't have the brake reflex yet and it's real easy to flip it. They clutch it up to bp or higher but catch it with the brake and bring it down to where they want.

sacgsxr
07-28-2005, 12:45 PM
And You Also Need A 60 Tooth Sprocket Hahahaha

evilbologna
07-28-2005, 12:57 PM
Huge rear sprocket is probably required for a 5mph BP wheelie...if you consider the bike rolls along at maybe 8-10mph with the clutch disengaged at idle RPMs, theres no way you can hold it at 5mph without stalling.

FuzioN
07-28-2005, 01:17 PM
I can power it in 1st and reach BP... once i get enough practice holding BP im gonna try clutching 2nd, i hear thats the way to go.

CNY750Rider
07-28-2005, 02:10 PM
Don't fofget....low tire pressure and bump that idle up to 2,600 rpms for slow stuff. Alot of people use the rear brake AND a slight slip of the clutch. Gear's def. help getting it up quick and slowing down the revolutions.

GSXRsix
07-28-2005, 03:20 PM
Hmmm... Looks like I should hold of on the slow stuff and continue to practice my 2nd gear wheelies first. I just want to be able to cruise down town and pop a wheelie and ride it out in first gear going under 20 mph. I'll have to wait to get a stunt bike until I do slow stuff then, I don't want to really put on a huge sprocket on my nice bike. Thanks for the replys guys.

Motojoe_23
07-28-2005, 07:37 PM
You need to have HIGHWAY speed wheelies on lock first. Not only NOT accelerating (which is the ONLY true balance point) but being able to go so high up that you need almsot zero throttle to keep goin, and be able to even slow then down by going SLIGHTLY past bp and coasting using the engine to slow down and MAYBE the brake without setting it down. With highway wheelies, all you have to worry about is throttle control for the most part. You RARELY need the brake, and the bike stays mostly in a straight line by itslef With slow wheelies you have to balance left and right, have inpecable throttle, brake AND clutch control, and be FERY calm and loose to be able to react without freezing. Now once you have all that locked down, you will need to drop the pressure to about 15lbs, bump the idle up to about 3000, and from damn near a dead stop just clutch it up (you will already know BP and what it feels like to go PAST it if you have highway wheelis locked down) Once you do that, you will have something new to learn, side to side balance. That will take awhile to be able to cruise under 15 MPH in a straight line across a parking lot. THEN you will work on movign on the bike, chanign foot postion and riding with one hand or no hands. THEN you might be able to get to cirlces. yo have a LONG way to go brotha. took me a few years to do it, but I didnt push my progression. I was able to do it without EVER wrecking my bike. If you push progression you WILL crash. Let BP come to you, dont chase BP

PIGS01GSXR1K
07-29-2005, 05:43 AM
Always Cover the Rear Break and youll be Fine.......