Nicecycle.com fairing kits what you may not know

**FOR THE LAZY PEOPLE WHO DON'T ACTUALLY READ AND THEN REPLY BY FLAMING WITH WHAT THEY SKIMMED THRU BUT HAVE NOT THE SLIGHTEST CLUE** The reason I am writing this up is because I don't believe in companies/people who mislead consumers and make a nice extra amount of money off of consumers (the people who buy) WHILE leading you to believe that the company manufactures it's product in America but you then get a box from China. I already stated majority of products are created in China because it is cheaper to mass produce in China (somewhere below in this thread). Do I care...No. but do I care if someone is misleading you to believing you are paying for some "Quality" product from America and you turn around and it is coming from China when you could of paid half the price? Yes. If I am going to lead you to believe that my product is PRODUCED in my factory, painted by my painters and then shipped to you from any where in the U.S. and you are expecting it to come from wherever in the U.S. I lead you to believe but then you get a box shipped from China would you not start thinking about what else could I be misleading you into believing aka have lied to you about? Not only does that question the Integrity but the "Quality" I am supposedly paying more for. ********************************************************************************************************************** What you may not know is what I am about to tell you. For those who don't want to read the lengthy post I am going to tell you now. Nicecycle.com are Chinese created fairings so don't think you are buying from an American company as the website likes to make you think. Regardless our OEM fairings are also made from China if you did not know that. I am only telling you this so you can get a better deal, save money and make better decisions of where you want to spend your money instead of thinking you have to pay more for "Quality" when you aren't getting anything different. Nicecycle.com So i was doing a little bit of research to find some decently priced fairings. I came across this thread Nicecycle.com "Corona" fairing review (http://www.gsxr.com/showthread.php?t=61814) and registered today. Well, I read this thread about nicecycle and then had many questions of if this company is an American company that sells "Quality" stuff then I want to verify. After reading that the original poster and many other people received their fairings from China it made me question the company. So I did some investigating (I am also an IT professional so it helped out a lot). (keep in mind I am an IT proffessional and I know how to find out what domain goes where, who registered it, when it was registered, What address it was registered under etc...) Nicecycle.com is nothing more then a Chinese company who makes these. The website is very misleading and he is charging you an extra $400+ more then buying it off of ebay (which you would be buying from China as well). I say it is misleading is because he makes you believe that his "company" is in Michigan and to beware the eBay China knockoffs etc... The customer service you think you are getting is just the owner of the website. I have done my homework on it and came to the conclusion that you are overpaying on something that only costs about $500 shipped, which you can buy from eBay or Auctmarts (which they are from China as well if you didn't know). So I will be posting everything that led me to finally coming to the conclusion that nicecycle.com is nothing more then an American guy posing as a "company" and selling fairings from China, which he can be easily buying from eBay and reselling at a marked up price. I did the math and his site brings in roughly 3200 people a month. I took about 10% of 3000 instead of 3200 and estimated that if 10% actually bought from that site he would be making money off of 300 people. That extra $400 that you could be saving ($500 for fairings off of eBay or Auctmarts) came out to about $120,000 and that is only 10% of people actually buying from the 3200 traffic he gets on his site. Yes that is $120,000 a month.. not a year.. a month. The reason I am writing this up is because I don't believe in people who mislead consumers and make a nice extra amount of money off of consumers (the people who buy) WHILE leading you to believe that the company manufactures it's product in America but you then get a box from China. First i started with the email Well, here is the emails between me and the "company": To Whom It May Concern: I have a friend that bought from you guys and he had some marks and what not but overall was pleased with the work done on the fairings including the fitments. My question is, are these shipped from China or not? He has documentation showing his fairings were shipped from China and not Japan. Your site says beware of china eBay fairings yet you are selling the same things? You cannot sit and email me that he is making up a lie etc... because I am, as we speak, looking at the documentation showing it was shipped from China and not Japan. If I do not receive a response because you were not able to answer due to not wanting to tell the truth then I will automatically assume your fairings are the same as eBay and I will let other people, who were going to purchase from your site, know as well they are the same as eBay fairings. It is one thing to promote your site and state you are of higher quality but to lie and deceive consumers when you are clearly receiving the same fairings from China as the ones being sold on eBay while charging almost twice the price as eBay equivalent is considered fraud under Federal Trade Commission and BBB. Misleading the consumer into believing they are getting "higher quality items" as stated on your site and selling the equivalent quality or less is a serious violation of FTC. Thanks, His reply Hello Thank you for your email. I can’t answer this email in the best position not knowing the “customer” you speak of, nor of having heard about the trouble he/she has had with their purchase. “IF” there is ever ANYTHING, wrong with any NiceCycle customer’s purchase, they are instructed to either A) Call Us, or B) Send us an email, depicting the issues they are having so we can work with them and pinpoint their troubles, which may result in pieces being remade FREE of charge, if that is the case. Here at NiceCycle we have top notch customer service before and after the sale. If there is ever an issue – we have fixed it. On now to the quality concern you have stressed. Do we “ship” our fairings from China? YES. We import all of our raw material from Japan. This being blank plastic - raw, unprimed, un-sanded plastic. Shanghai is a part of China – it is here that we conduct all of our paint work as well as decal work. Any item not in stock in our Michigan warehouse is indeed “custom” painted and decaled here. Not sure if you are aware of this or not, but your OEM fairings were indeed MADE IN CHINA. The gray area lies in plastic quality, overall craftsmanship when it comes to paint work and fitment. We excel here – we have been in this business for many years and have superior quality product over anything you are seeing on eBay. Add this to the fact that we are open 7 days of the week and available via telephone or email instantly puts us at level that eBay cannot contest. eBay sellers indeed make their product “look” good, however underneath the nice make-up, there lies a cheap composition usually PVC, which may melt, break during installation, the list goes on and on. If your friend has had a bad experience we certainly apologize, however it is their duty to let us know about the issue when it happens so we can take the necessary steps to rectify the situation. Emailing us with threats, attacks and blasphemy is not the correct approach here, we appreciate our customers and work with them through the life of their purchase. Thanks! We Appreciate Your Business! Kyle Sales/Support Office: (810) 937-6732 www.NiceCycle.com "The Trusted Name In Aftermarket Fairings" A Made Group Affiliate Company

My reply To Whom It May Concern: I do appreciate the email reply back. I am writing because I have issues with companies who lie about their products especially if a company claims to have "Quality" work. My friend has no problem, as previously stated, with what he has purchased from your company. I was not trying to email with any threats, as you can simply read in the email as I am not threatening to do anything against your company. I am simply trying to get an understanding and want a straight non-diluted answer without the usual "ring around the rosey" company response. I however did mention it is a violation of FTC for misleading the consumer, which it is. I have nothing against your customer service, never said anything about it and we will leave that alone. You state "Our fairings are machine made - in our own factory, by our own NiceCycle employees, painted by our own NiceCycle skilled painters. WE DO NOT OUT SOURCE OUR PRODUCTS." Yet you just admitted that you get your items from Japan and then ship to China (if they are not in stock in Michigan warehouse) to be painted and shipped out to the customer. Very VERY misleading as your company contradicts itself trying to make people believe they are purchasing from the U.S.A. Everything that I am understanding from what your reply states, is your company is nothing but a website and you may or may not have a warehouse in Michigan. If you do have a warehouse in Michigan it is to send the majority requested fairings to. The only "quality" you may have is customer service and that is the only step above the eBay counterparts since they sell from China as well. Your raw materials are completely sent from Japan (which i saw no documentation showing the fairings even came from Japan but from China). You also stated "Not sure if you are aware of this or not, but your OEM fairings were indeed MADE IN CHINA." which I am very well aware of. With that added statement it now makes me believe your quality is nothing more then the same eBay Quality and your company IS based out in China. So in conclusion Your company is indeed based in China (not U.S.A. as you want people to believe), you get your raw materials from Japan which you then ship to China. You then paint the fairings in China and then ship out to the U.S.A. Your website is an American website, you possibly have a Michigan warehouse that you send the majority requested fairings to. If they are not in stock at the Michigan warehouse they will be then shipped from China. All painting is done in China and shipped out from there. In my opinion and from everything yous tated, unless proven otherwise, ALL your work (including the fairings being made) are made in China, painted and shipped to U.S.A. What you are doing is using a play on words (misleading the consumer) to make people believe they are buying the fairings from U.S.A. when they are indeed not. If your company is based in the U.S.A. then where is your physical location? You have a P.O. box where people can send in payments for if they do not use a major credit card. That is not a physical location that is a P.O. Box. In technicalities you ARE outsourcing because you are using U.S.A as (Michigan "branch" and i use that loosely) as your customer service IF your company is based out of China. The only difference from your company compared to someone selling from China on eBay is you have American customer service and that is it. His reply within 10 minutes of me sending the email Hello We appreciate your opinion, however you are far from correct in various ways. We are not based in China, we do not outsource our work. We have hundreds and hundreds of satisfied clients, as well as dealerships and various sport bike magazines that we collaborate with. You’re indeed entitled to your opinion and we appreciate your email. Kyle Sales/Support Office: (810) 937-6732 www.NiceCycle.com "The Trusted Name In Aftermarket Fairings" A Made Group Affiliate Company My reply back Kyle, If your company is not located in China then where is your company based out of? Where is all the work actually done? In what ways am I far from correct? Please explain in further depth so i can have a correct understanding. "Our fairings are machine made - in our own factory, by our own NiceCycle employees, painted by our own NiceCycle skilled painters." Where is this factory based out of? A factory is different from a warehouse. If NiceCycle skilled painters are the ones who paint the fairings and you stated the fairings are being shipped from China to be painted then your company is based straight out of China am I correct since the fairings are shipped from Japan? How long has your business been in operation? I am trying to justify to myself spending $900 as opposed to $500 and I want to make sure I am doing business with an American company. No reply after that Well I did a look up of the domain name and to find out who it is registered to and what not. So it is registered to Kyle, which i will not give his full name due to privacy, out in Michigan AND it had his address. So I looked up the address to see if it was a legit business address. Well turns out it is not a business address and it is his house address. Lets just say he has a very very nice house on a 3-4 acre place with a nice 2-4 car garage etc... The website is nothing more then a website that your average person can create. He says stay away from eBay china knockoffs but yet he is selling you the same thing. Regardless majority OEM stuff is still made from China anyways since it is cheaper to being mass produced out there. He never told me how long he has been in business and if anyone would like to ask him then be my guest. If he says he has been in business for over 5-10yrs or something like that then he is lying. The website: Domain Name: NICECYCLE.COM Created on: 19-Mar-08 Expires on: 19-Mar-10 Last Updated on: 12-Apr-09 Kyle owns 38 other domains I also found his personal email address but I will not list that. All in all if you want to purchase from nicecycle then be my guest but be warned nicecycle.com is not selling anything "Higher Quality" as they make them seem they are. They are selling the regular Chinese produced fairings.

Let's clear some things up. (1) It doesn't take an "IT Professional" to find the information you found. Here it is: http://whois.domaintools.com/nicecycle.com - this includes his full name, email address, and home address, which you can pop into Google Maps and take a look at. (2) What's the point of your post? Did you tell anybody on this forum anything new? It's common knowledge that people have received mixed reviews of their product from NiceCycle.com. A review of your experience with them would have been much more beneficial. (3) For what it's worth, you clearly threatened him in your first email - whether or not you threatened any action is irrelevant. Whenever you point out that something is against the laws or orders of a body of the federal government, you've made a threat. I'm a law student and have seen some sticky cases as a result of actions similar to these. Be careful here in the future.

(1) For someone to know about whois lookups it takes more then your "average" person to know about whois queries. Ask someone who has no IT knowledge what a whois lookup is. I am considered an IT professional because I do have 6 yrs experience in the IT field and I am certified so i stated that so people do not think I am making up what I was investigating. (2) The information on this post was simply stated at the very beginning and again in the middle. If you weren't trying to defend nicecycles.com then you would of known clear and simple. "Nicecycle.com are Chinese created fairings so don't think you are buying from an American company as the website likes to make you think". "The reason I am writing this up is because I don't believe in people who mislead consumers and make a nice extra amount of money off of consumers (the people who buy) WHILE leading you to believe that the company manufactures it's product in America but you then get a box from China." If you want to spend $900 + on some fairings you are getting from China regardless, then why don't you just buy the same ones off of eBay or Auctmarts for $500 or less without having to question the integrity of the company. I am simply letting people know who question nicecycles.com as I did when looking for fairings and integrity. My review is dealing with the "company" asking direct questions but receiving vague and diluted answers. If i understand that correctly I believe i have every right as a consumer to question the integrity of ANY company and not go in blindly. (3) No I was not threatening, I was simply informing what he is doing is considered a major violation under the FTC. Misleading a consumer into believing he is getting something else is a complete violation. If I was threatening him I would of also stated that I will report him to the BBB and FTC. There is a difference between a law STUDENT and a law professional. So please don't try and use couple years of experience in school as if you were a well established lawyer. Don't take it the wrong way but I am simply stating the truth. I have nothing against you. I have a couple of years myself refuting with the law and understanding what I can and can not do. I also have a co-worker who has 6 yrs + still refuting the government. I'll take experience over a student any day of the week and he did already advise me to be VERY careful of what I say and how i say it. It is your assumption that this is common knowledge. Not everyone knows this about the company and I am clearly stating what I have investigated and found out about them. If you do not like what I have posted then that is fine. I am still letting people know about the truth. If I was wrong then why didn't he reply to my last email proving what I stated was wrong and answer my questions?

(1) It takes Google. No other knowledge is necessary. You don't even need to know what a whois query is to obtain that information. Don't exaggerate your "research" - it took you no more than it did me, which was 90 seconds. (2) You're sadly mistaken if you think I'm 'defending' NiceCycle. Not only do I have no affiliation with the company, I've also never ordered from them, and I never will. You're also mistaken about NiceCycle not being an American company - check their FTC registration (I'm sure you can find that, what with your IT certification and all). The only point you have here that stands is the fact that people will pay more through NiceCycle. A 2-sentence post would've sufficed that argument, though. (3) Believe what you will; you can downplay the fact that I'm a student and not a lawyer, but I'm pretty confident Kyle could take you to court for harrasment based off of your email alone and get some money out of you. I'd do it. Of course, I wouldn't win anything, seeing as how I'm just a "student," right? :thumbup: Chris

I am actually 100% in agreement with this guy. This company is bullshitting everyone and in my opinion this is near to scamming people, as they are LIEING directly to you. People are buying their fairings thinking they're made in Michigan or at least the US and they are not. They even have to audacity to state "do not buy from the china knockoffs" when they ARE a china knock off. STAY AWAY FROM THEM!!!!

good information and very much appreciated

(1) it takes more then just "googleing" a company name into google. There was no exaggeration for what I looked for and what I did. I went straight to looking up a whois query. (2)I never said you were affiliated with the company. I simply stated you are defending the company. A two sentence post may have sufficed for you but how would I be able to backup what I am saying without any proof? If you are a law student you should know that as well. Companies do not register with FTC they register with the Better Business Bureau. I seriously wouldn't want you as my lawyer if you didn't even know that. Are you sure you are a law student? (3) I am very very confident if Kyle took me to court there would be no snowball chance in hell he would win anything even with you as his lawyer. For one there is no legal track record of "harrassment" and no police report to further back the "harrassment". This wouldn't even be looked at in a small claims court. Judge would look at this and laugh. :headshake

Thank you guys. I just want to make sure everyone is well informed of misleading "companies" when you could be saving money instead of paying well hard earned money.

Your a tool bag. That guy might mislead his product where it is made, but who really cares. Bottom line, your friend got a product that he was happy with the quality. Now your bitching about a UPS label from China. DUDE, EVERYTHING IS MADE IN CHINA.

DUDE, EVERYTHING IS MADE IN CHINA. DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!! I own my own American based company, and we sell TONS of parts made in China. Most of those parts are EXACT f'in duplicates of their American made counter parts, and we can sell them for WAY less than our competition because of this. I agree that misleading people about where they come from is wrong, and charging more is also very wrong. You've made your point. BUT, there are about 970 MILLION American Companies that do this. Welcome to the world as it is....

Your a tool bag. That guy might mislead his product where it is made, but who really cares. Bottom line, your friend got a product that he was happy with the quality. Now your bitching about a UPS label from China. DUDE, EVERYTHING IS MADE IN CHINA. Who really cares? Maybe the people who are THINKING they are getting an American product AND paying for it when they are getting a Chinese product. Maybe you should read the thread before you start spatting nonsense that was already covered. I already stated majority of products are created in China because it is cheaper to mass produce in China. Do I care...No. but do I care if someone is misleading you to believing you are paying for some "Quality" product from America and you turn around and it is coming from China when you could of paid half the price? Yes. The reason I am writing this up is because I don't believe in people who mislead consumers and make a nice extra amount of money off of consumers (the people who buy) WHILE leading you to believe that the company manufactures it's product in America but you then get a box from China. These are called scam artists. Hey if you both like being scammed then let me buy some eBay fairings from China that you like for $400-500 shipped, mark it up to $900, tell you that it was PRODUCED at my factory, painted by my factories employees leading you to believe it was produced here in America and then sell it to you straight from China. If you don't care for being scammed then by all means I can gladly scam you and take your money because you don't care.

DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!! I own my own American based company, and we sell TONS of parts made in China. Most of those parts are EXACT f'in duplicates of their American made counter parts, and we can sell them for WAY less than our competition because of this. I agree that misleading people about where they come from is wrong, and charging more is also very wrong. You've made your point. BUT, there are about 970 MILLION American Companies that do this. Welcome to the world as it is.... So it makes it right that 970 million companies scam you to making you think you are getting "Quality" product made in America but then sell you Chinese produced product? Like I said I have no problems with Chinese produced items BUT I do have a problem with scamming people. You must of skimmed thru the thread because I already stated half of everything is mass produced in China.

I read the whole thread. If you read my post you would have read that I think misleading people about where they come from is wrong, and charging more is wrong. I never said I thought this was ok. What I did say was that A LOT of times the quality is exactly the same as the American counterpart, and that companies should sell them for less because they get them for less. Maybe you should chill? You've never heard of Chinese Quality?

I read the whole thread. If you read my post you would have read that I think misleading people about where they come from is wrong, and charging more is wrong. I never said I thought this was ok. What I did say was that A LOT of times the quality is exactly the same as the American counterpart, and that companies should sell them for less because they get them for less. Maybe you should chill? You've never heard of Chinese Quality? I am as chill as can be. I have not demeaned you. I am stating that because 970 million companies do it and I catch one still does not make it right. I am just informing people of what I have found. If anyone wants to buy from nicecycle.com then by all means buy from them but be warned that you aren't paying for anything special or "High Quality" as the site makes you believe. Like i mentioned before, I know majority of items, whatever they are, are produced in China. I don't care if it is produced in China. Personally I'll be buying from Auctmarts because they have the best prices I have seen and excellent quality as I have investigated. Yes they are sending the stuff from China but I really don't care because they are not saying "Beware the China knockoff" and are making you think they are producing the fairings at their own factory being painted by their own employees and trying to make you believe it is produced in the U.S. I did state it does not bother me that it is Chinese quality but it does bother me that if you are going to market something as "Higher Quality" and I am going to pay that extra $400 to justify the $900 dollars I am paying then I better be getting "Higher Quality" as mentioned.

to summarize..............the OP is talking about truth in advertising. nicecycle got called out on it....and lost. certainly not the first or last company that HAS and WILL get away with it.

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play nice kids or I will shut you down. the OP wanted to write a review and he did so in the correct section. if you don't agree thats fine but lets not start flaming each other please

DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!! I own my own American based company, and we sell TONS of parts made in China. Most of those parts are EXACT f'in duplicates of their American made counter parts, and we can sell them for WAY less than our competition because of this. I agree that misleading people about where they come from is wrong, and charging more is also very wrong. You've made your point. BUT, there are about 970 MILLION American Companies that do this. Welcome to the world as it is.... WAYYYY less because some 10 year old kids got paid jack shit to spend 12 hours in a sweat factory making it......So....its safe to say that outsourcing makes you TONS of money and 970 MILLION US companies do this? And that is some to be REALLLLLLLy proud of. :clap: The point is that is false advertisement if someone says these arent cheap plastic kits made in China.....and then ship your products directly from china. It shows the values of the company when they do that. NONE. And if your company did that......I, as a consumer, would never use them.....and many others wouldnt either. Then your business would be a failure. Especially charging more BECAUSE your products "arent cheap china plastics"

Thanks for teh info dude, i was just on their site yesterday and was going to order a kit from them. Thanks for taking the time out and looking out for all of us.

Thanks for teh info dude, i was just on their site yesterday and was going to order a kit from them. Thanks for taking the time out and looking out for all of us. No problem. Just informing fellow motorcyclists and people who want to save money.

How bad is a "tool bag"? Is that anything like being a dump truck? :laughingr:laughingr:laughingr:laughingr:laughingr

LONG ASS OP! but definately worth the 5 minutes of my life I will never get back:lol:. 1. I agree pointing out somebody is lying or misleading a customer is the farthest thing from a threat. 2. "China quality" somebody spoke of is why they still think lead the best thing since sliced bread. I cant say I wont buy Made in China crap b/c sometimes you dont really have a choice in the matter. 3. If you gonna BS someone, he should have had it shipped to the "warehouse" in Michigan and then forwarded it to the customer who wouldnt have a clue. I started some crap when I seen a fuel truck pull out of one gas station parking lot right to another of a different company and one charged .10/gal more than the other for the same exact gas.

Your a tool bag. That guy might mislead his product where it is made, but who really cares. Bottom line, your friend got a product that he was happy with the quality. Now your bitching about a UPS label from China. DUDE, EVERYTHING IS MADE IN CHINA. totally agree, so what if it is made in china? does it make you fall of your bike? does it make your bike go slower? the truth is, because of great china and them hard workin people. you can get this fairing for hundreds not thousands of dollar. if people are willing to pay more, there will be produce in US. but face it, you wont pay this extra

totally agree, so what if it is made in china? does it make you fall of your bike? does it make your bike go slower? the truth is, because of great china and them hard workin people. you can get this fairing for hundreds not thousands of dollar. if people are willing to pay more, there will be produce in US. but face it, you wont pay this extra Very true..but its agreed that it's not correct to state that your product is manufactured somewhere for the purpose of marking it up...

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn: hahaha dangles you kill me.. no words needed from you haha

Wow, I am looking for a second set of plastics for my bike. I am glad I saw this. Thanks. N*cecycle.com is still leading comsumers(me) to think they have a factory in the states making their products. Has anyone bought plastics from Ebay guys in China and how much trouble if any did you have installing them? Color does not matter to me because I am going to have it painted anyway, but I am worried about fit.

i have a set of these fairings and the fit is pretty good but the paint lacks quality i had to take off the fairing and the paint is already chipping

Let's clear some things up. (1) It doesn't take an "IT Professional" to find the information you found. Here it is: http://whois.domaintools.com/nicecycle.com - this includes his full name, email address, and home address, which you can pop into Google Maps and take a look at. I dont think he stated that it was a prerequisite to finding information. Just because you know whois.domaintools.com doesnt mean everyone else here does and his statements are worthless. He only mentions this to say he's not just an average Joe with unfounded accusations. (2) What's the point of your post? Did you tell anybody on this forum anything new? It's common knowledge that people have received mixed reviews of their product from NiceCycle.com. A review of your experience with them would have been much more beneficial. So you know for a fact that EVERYONE on this forum already knew this info? EVERYONE? Wow, now that *is* some law school you're attending there. (3) For what it's worth, you clearly threatened him in your first email - whether or not you threatened any action is irrelevant. Whenever you point out that something is against the laws or orders of a body of the federal government, you've made a threat. I'm a law student and have seen some sticky cases as a result of actions similar to these. Be careful here in the future. Riding above the 65 mph limit is against the law. Whoa, I just threatened you. The OP did a good job of covering all of his bases man. He was just giving us information. Not sure how you misconstrued this and got all riled up and high on your law enforcement horse. Thanks OP, an uninformed consumer like me just learned something new.

I disagree with so much stuff in this thread if I used multi quote I would get my own page, lol. This is NOT a review of the company or the product. This is a disgruntled would be consumer posting his opinion. I dont have a problem with that either tho. This is and always will be a debatable issue but its an issue of business ethics, nothing else. It does not change the quality of the product and where something is made doesnt change quality either. Some ppl just like to buy american and I dont knock that. All this talk of law students and IT proffesionals is ridiculous, come on. The 1st email sent to the company is VERY threatening in many ways. Simply the tone of it by not to mention the actual threat where the OP states he will ASSUME he is right and then he WILL TELL OTHERS... hes is threatening slander. Even if he is right it would be considered slander if not done properly. Im just saying... heres an idea... Lets review the product for the product and base if we buy it or not on that.

Really shitty that everyone is flaming when you are trying to warn others about false advertising. I appreciate your concerns, and won't be buying from there. There is such thing as loyalty, truth, and respect to your costumers.:thumbup:

I came across this looking for reviews or opinions on nicecycle and felt compelled to register and support the OP. Here's another forum where a member point-blank asks if the product is made in the USA and the vendor (Nicecycle) answers deceptively in post #5: http://www.twowheelforum.com/showthread.php?t=26232 Part of their BS on the site is to 'avoid the Chinese ebay kits' which, shockingly, are $250-400 LESS than the Nicecycle parts, yet they are selling exactly the same thing. If you want to buy one of these kits, just go to ebay and search for seller auctmarts or auctmarts1 ebay store. You'll find what this kid is just buying and charging 25% markup on. Not that there's anything wrong with that concept, but the deceptive response in that thread combined with the fact that the item is available elsewhere, cheaper, seems to make Nicecycle pretty redundant. Just my .02.

Deceptively what? He clearly said they would be warehoused in the USA, not MADE in the USA. He never said they were made in the USA at all. I am not defending anyone....but... Literacy doesn't mean shit without comprehension. :shifty Dont buy a Prius k...just sayin

The correct response would have been 'These are made in China'. Nobody once asked what fucking building they sat in. That was an intentional misdirection of the question in hopes that someone would be dumb enough to misunderstand and take it as a yes. A bullshit answer is a bullshit answer.

A bullshit answer is a bullshit answer. and you clearly just confirmed that :lol:

I think the original post was really informative considering I was going to order a kit from them next month. And all the info the OP posted was detailed and alot of work put in it. And for his hard work and due diligence he got flamed by some douchebag for no reason. He was just trying to warn some fellow riders and do the right thing. And someone else who is too lazy and too ignorant to know right from wrong and take a stand for once in his life and possibly help others out or atleast let someone else help others out has to go and be a jerk. Absolutely amazing. This is whats wrong with our country right now. Too many people stand by and watch the tyranny and corporate bamboozlement happen and then turn the other way or dismiss it as the norm. Just because shit happens alot doesn't make it right and doesn't allow you to flame some person for doing what your too lazy to do.

Ya, they are made in China, we all get that...its not like the end of the world is tomorrow. Truth in advertising...we get it. Your fellow congressmen sold you out, not members posting on a damn bike forum. Let the buyer beware has been around since dirt...

Ya, they are made in China, we all get that...its not like the end of the world is tomorrow. Truth in advertising...we get it. Your fellow congressmen sold you out, not members posting on a damn bike forum. Let the buyer beware has been around since dirt... Let the buyer beware, a noble concept but one often invoked by someone in an effort to soothe their own conscience for screwing someone else over. Glad to see that this site supports deceptive marketing. That Nicecycle is so deceptive, they are using 'Sharkskinz' and 'Hotbodies' in the TITLES of their pages in an effort to make people think they're buying something completely different. No matter which way you slice it, the OP was warning people new to the hobby and/or new to the way things work to be careful and be informed when dealing with a company like this. This was indeed a valuable post and I'm sure will help inform people when they're intending to buy. Now kindly take your site-endorsed moderator opinion down a notch, realize that you're defending shady practices and it's reflecting poorly on not only yourself but this site.

This site doesn't support deception, and if you have read my posts you will clearly see that i am in agreement. As far as my site endorsed moderator opinion, your making a huge assumption of who i am based on three posts on this forum. I am however an asshole and will happily take you down a notch to prove it.

This site doesn't support deception, and if you have read my posts you will clearly see that i am in agreement. As far as my site endorsed moderator opinion, your making a huge assumption of who i am based on three posts on this forum. I am however an asshole and will happily take you down a notch to prove it. I think what he is saying JPG is that your replies on this thread are coming off rude and against the OP. I couldn't understand where you were going as far as your reply to my post on this thread either but I left it alone because I dig your input you've had on all the other posts I've read of yours :thumbup:. But this is coming off like your siding with the D'bag who flamed the OP. :infrandom I mean yeah buyer beware. But we are all here to help each other out with tips and advice and warnings if need be about products and retailers they are bought from.

to summarize..............the OP is talking about truth in advertising. nicecycle got called out on it....and lost. certainly not the first or last company that HAS and WILL get away with it. Deceptively what? He clearly said they would be warehoused in the USA, not MADE in the USA. He never said they were made in the USA at all. I am not defending anyone....but... Literacy doesn't mean shit without comprehension. :shifty Dont buy a Prius k...just sayin Ya, they are made in China, we all get that...its not like the end of the world is tomorrow. Truth in advertising...we get it. Your fellow congressmen sold you out, not members posting on a damn bike forum. Let the buyer beware has been around since dirt... I take the side of nobody but me...^^^these are my posts. Plus Mr Personality that started this thread went back and edited most of his posts so your not getting the full story, either way I understand what your trying to say, dont mean to come of as an ass, just get tired of the beating dead horse thread. Ya they suck, they lie yadda yadda I get it already. Know what I mean :shifty

:thumbup: I'm seeing the light of it now sensei :shifty

:thumbup: I'm seeing the light of it now sensei :shifty i do respect your opinion and what your saying, more then ya know :thumbup:

i do respect your opinion and what your saying, more then ya know :thumbup: :bounce Thanks boss :clap:

Ok, I read this entire thread and honestly i have to thank the guy that started it. I bought a set of 08 1000 fairings from them in Feb. Reading their site it came across as the fairings were made in the USA. Thats the ONLY reason i bought them.... They havent arrived as yet but when they do i will be sure to write a full review on them.. Keep a look out for this. After reading this i felt like i got ripped off.

walk around your house and look in the drawers and find how many things you have purchased that are made in china and you were not aware of it when you bought it. cheap ya...if they claim they are made in the usa and are not.. don't buy them. come to think of it your bike is cheap and made in japan, return that also. if a comparable bike of quality, price and value was made in the usa I would buy it, but it doesn't exist.