aggarjr 06-15-2009, 07:45 PM is there any laws that show where i have to have my plate located on the rear of the bike? because i received a citation and the officer said "its obstructed"
i have read this whole site on the laws concerning motorcycles... n i couldnt find the answer
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/msb/txmclaws.htm
you da man 06-15-2009, 07:53 PM Where do you have your license plate. If all the numbers/letters cannot be view from directly behind the bike (like from a cars point of view) then the officer is justified in writing you the ticket. Example, if it is mounted near the hugger and it's partially blocked.
you da man 06-15-2009, 08:00 PM Here's where the officer has you:
(7) has a coating, covering, protective material, or other apparatus that:
(A) distorts angular visibility or detectability;
(B) alters or obscures one-half or more of the name of the state in which the vehicle is registered; or
(C) alters or obscures the letters or numbers of the license plate number or the color of the plate.
So pay the fine and stop complaining.
you da man 06-15-2009, 08:03 PM If you have the plate mounted on the swingarm, that can be enough for a ticket because the officer may not be able to see it if he is not directly behind you (example - if you are in the inside lane and the officer is on the outside lane and your rear tire could block all or part of the plate from the officer's angle of view)
QUADRACER70 06-15-2009, 08:40 PM Remember where your rear fender use to be? That is where your plate is suppose to be no acceptions. :thumbup:
yakitori 07-02-2009, 10:36 AM eh....cops are pricks. Not all, but most.
I got the same ticket before. The officer said its not visible from 50 feet from the rear of the bike.....which it is. Its funny cause I even got off my bike and walked over 50 feet from it with the officer right next to me and my plate is visible. I said....."you can see my plate from here right?....cause I can see it" he said, "no". effing jerk.
Anyway, it was dismissed in court. I got a friend of mine to take pictures of my plate while I was riding it, I took pics of it off the bike from 150 feet away....I asked 4 different people in my apartment outside and they all said that its visible.
Took my pics to court and the judge shook his head when I told him what the officer did.
DISMISSED.
so.....what I would suggest to you is....make sure your plate is legal by the rest of the standards. Dont worry about the loose wording in the handbook, because its written loosely to give officers descretion on who to ticket and who not to.
Bottomline is.....JUDGE will determine.
My plates are all still mounted under the tail.....and everytime I get pulled over and they mention it....I tell em...I went to court over it and the judge already dismissed it.
They dont bother with me about it anymore.
yakitori 07-02-2009, 10:36 AM Remember where your rear fender use to be? That is where your plate is suppose to be no acceptions. :thumbup:
not in texas...maybe in CA.
yakitori 07-02-2009, 10:39 AM on another note.....you will likely get the eventual detainment for
"checking the DOT sticker on your helmet"
Ive gotten that lame ass line from cops like 3 times now. So....I went and bought myself a small sticker that says.
"capable of evading high speed pursuit" and stuck it right above my DOT sticker.
Now when they pull me over and use that line....I just turn my head and tell em....theres my sticker right there. :twofinger
jmckell 07-09-2009, 12:12 PM I was pulled over in Euless, TX and was given a verbal warning because my plate was sideways.
MR DANGLES 07-09-2009, 12:22 PM i have mine tucked wayyy under and got a ticket. but it was also dismissed. i took a video and walked like 70 feet to show i was still able to see it. the judge just laughed and threw it out. Now if it was night I would have been screwed cause I have no light.
http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn459/MRDANGLES750/UNDERTAIL2-1.jpg
uneedthis2 07-09-2009, 12:57 PM My plate is mounted just under my tail light, flush with the tail and has like 3/4" risers to keep it away from the undertail! My bike is slammed and you can still see if from behind. Pulled over literally Tuesday and cop didn't say a word about it! I could see him riding behind me running the plates, so clearly he could see them! PS - The Cop was in a Jeep Grand Cherokee
I pulled over before he put the lights were even on and got let off for something I should have gone to jail for!
SuspensionGooRu 07-09-2009, 01:22 PM The plate must be clear, clean and visible from the rear, parallel to the ground and under 48". Cops in general do not like sport bikes so if you have it mounted other then the factory position they can write you up. I would look on line for the infraction for you state and read it you will find that there is a lot of gray area. Remounted it so that it is a little bit more visible take a picture of it and go into court show the judge that it is visible from the rear and cop is harassing you and profiling you because you ride a sport bike. It worked for me plus I had slicks on I got out of both infractions based on the fact that he did not have a reason to pull me over other then to bother me. Now if you were speeding or wreckless riding also then you might have a problem, but if all you were doing is riding down the street then you have a case of pure profiling. I personally put mine back in the factory spot where it can be seen with no problem just because I did not want to be bothered by bored police officers. All of these laws have loop holes even the tire one is very vag you just have to be smart enough to be convincing to the judge that the cop was harassing you.
JohnPaulGixxer 07-09-2009, 01:58 PM i have mine tucked wayyy under and got a ticket. but it was also dismissed. i took a video and walked like 70 feet to show i was still able to see it. the judge just laughed and threw it out. Now if it was night I would have been screwed cause I have no light.
.... http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a112/Incandesent/Smilies/smiley_slapbackhead.gif
and you should have been screwed for an expired plate and the duct tape :rofl:
MR DANGLES 07-09-2009, 02:38 PM .... http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a112/Incandesent/Smilies/smiley_slapbackhead.gif
and you should have been screwed for an expired plate and the duct tape :rofl:
haha, na that was a pic from last yr and its just a piece of paper to cover the numbers. i was to lazy to photo chop it.
JohnPaulGixxer 07-09-2009, 02:43 PM haha, na that was a pic from last yr and its just a piece of paper to cover the numbers. i was to lazy to photo chop it.
so did you finaly get a lic plate light?
MR DANGLES 07-09-2009, 02:52 PM so did you finaly get a lic plate light?
nope... you can see it better when i brake from my brake light but thats it. i do need to get one though.
350gt 07-09-2009, 09:23 PM So pay the fine and stop complaining.
He asked a question It didnt sound like a complaint to me..:headscrat
350gt 07-09-2009, 09:26 PM I was pulled over in Euless, TX and was given a verbal warning because my plate was sideways.
god forbid you make them read sideways...
I cant speak the last two times I have been stopped I have been let go with a slap on the ass and a warning. I have been very lucky or they like my ass:shifty
gixxer32404 07-09-2009, 09:40 PM In FL. with new law combined with 50over and stunting it 1000.00 dollars first offense. 3rd offense 5 grand automatic felony.
FraggleRock 07-13-2009, 12:21 AM I got the same ticket before. The officer said its not visible from 50 feet from the rear of the bike.....which it is. Its funny cause I even got off my bike and walked over 50 feet from it with the officer right next to me and my plate is visible.
i have mine tucked wayyy under and got a ticket. but it was also dismissed.
I just did that mod today but can't figure out a good spot for my inspection sticker. I think that is also required to be "visible from the back"
yakitori 07-13-2009, 12:25 PM I just did that mod today but can't figure out a good spot for my inspection sticker. I think that is also required to be "visible from the back"
again, most judges will throw inspection sticker location out. I got off one that one too because mine is mounted on the swing arm.....dismissed.
Now everytime I get pulled over and the cop says anything about either one.....I just tell him the judge threw it out and told me anywhere visible and the plate is visible. They usually dont even give me a ticket anymore.
I do have LED lighting for my plate though.....ordered them on ebay for 16 bucks....and made myself a homemade fender eliminator with a dremmel, sheet metal, and black sparay paint.....altogether the plate relocation cost me a total of like 25 bucks...most of the tools I already had.
I dont see how people get away with charging 100+ bucks for a fender eliminator kit. rip off.
If you think about it...even if the inspection sticker is visible from the back, they cannot see whether its expired or not....so...thats kind of a pointless rule....they would have to physically look upclose to see the holepunches on the year and month.
And I think above the guy means PERPENDICULAR from the ground. Thats not written in the DOT handbook though....so its not admissable in court. Motorcycles fall under the same plate display laws as trailors.....which basically states, unobstructed (which means clean and clear), visible from 50 ft from rear, and equipped with illumination (which must be white light).
FraggleRock 07-14-2009, 08:04 AM again, most judges will throw inspection sticker location out. I got off one that one too because mine is mounted on the swing arm.....dismissed.
Now everytime I get pulled over and the cop says anything about either one.....I just tell him the judge threw it out and told me anywhere visible and the plate is visible. They usually dont even give me a ticket anymore.
Glad to hear that. see the cops here in Dallas, TX can be a either/or. Sometimes you run into a good cop who will help you out and others will throw the book at you. It's 50/50. I was thinking of placing it on the front windshield and just take my chances.
MR DANGLES 07-14-2009, 08:12 AM I just did that mod today but can't figure out a good spot for my inspection sticker. I think that is also required to be "visible from the back"
I mounted mine on the swing arm. (inspection sticker) never have had any prob's
FraggleRock 07-14-2009, 08:19 PM I mounted mine on the swing arm. (inspection sticker) never have had any prob's
Where abouts on the swing arm?
MR DANGLES 07-14-2009, 09:14 PM Where abouts on the swing arm?
http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn459/MRDANGLES750/100_4170.jpg
MR DANGLES 07-14-2009, 09:22 PM or you could put it here..
http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn459/MRDANGLES750/100_4173.jpg
MR DANGLES 07-14-2009, 09:25 PM DAMN sorry for the big pic's. couldn't re size em in photobucket
sevenfiftybilly 07-15-2009, 11:10 AM hey mr. dangles when you gonna come down to san antonio and take me under your wing? lol i saw your pics on 360wraps.com killer stuff man!
FraggleRock 07-18-2009, 10:37 PM http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn459/MRDANGLES750/100_4170.jpg
Have you been pulled over with the sticker on the swing arm like that? Did the cop give you a hassle over it?
That looks like a nice clean spot, wouldn't mind doing' that myself
rebel750 08-20-2009, 07:03 PM ehh. Inspections....I kept mine from the dealer under the rear seat and only got shit from the rent-a-cops at Ft Sam. BTW I havent had an inspection since then.:thefinger
yakitori 08-21-2009, 11:37 AM i mounted mine on the swing arm too. Problem with that, as you can see is moisture and dirt get behind it and it makes your sticker come off eventually.
I have a small piece of sheet metal I cut out and drilled a hole in it, removed the chain guide bolt (that rubber piece on the swing arm that keeps your chain from smacking your paint) and mounted mine there.
I went a step further and got a pack of ID badgeholder pouches from Walmart for 97 cents for 10 of em. I put my entire metal piece with my sticker inside that and then mount it. Keeps it clean and keeps moisture out.
hellishhorses 10-07-2009, 12:53 PM Federal Law (Most states incorporate this as an inclusion clause)
blankets the entire vehicle modification by making it illegal to modify any aspect of any motorized vehicle by adding any non-oem products or deletion/modification of any factory installed items. In other words, if it's not bone stock they have the liberty of writing you a ticket.
That being said, most won't give you any crap as long as your license plate is mounted at the rear of the motorcycle, inspection sticker MUST BE ADJACENT to the plate and must have a minimum of three square inches of red/amber/red amber reflector (reflector may be a part of the tail light). I have my inspection mounted to the back of my plate with only one screw so it can be neatly folded up and out of site (this is apparently illegal, but still looks really nice).
K8gixxer 10-07-2009, 12:57 PM on another note.....you will likely get the eventual detainment for
"checking the DOT sticker on your helmet"
Ive gotten that lame ass line from cops like 3 times now. So....I went and bought myself a small sticker that says.
"capable of evading high speed pursuit" and stuck it right above my DOT sticker.
Now when they pull me over and use that line....I just turn my head and tell em....theres my sticker right there. :twofinger
HAHA thats a good one
MR DANGLES 10-07-2009, 01:06 PM Have you been pulled over with the sticker on the swing arm like that? Did the cop give you a hassle over it?
That looks like a nice clean spot, wouldn't mind doing' that myself
never stopped for that reason but no never have any warnings and or tickets.
i mounted mine on the swing arm too. Problem with that, as you can see is moisture and dirt get behind it and it makes your sticker come off eventually.
I have a small piece of sheet metal I cut out and drilled a hole in it, removed the chain guide bolt (that rubber piece on the swing arm that keeps your chain from smacking your paint) and mounted mine there.
I went a step further and got a pack of ID badgeholder pouches from Walmart for 97 cents for 10 of em. I put my entire metal piece with my sticker inside that and then mount it. Keeps it clean and keeps moisture out.
good idea:)
MR DANGLES 10-07-2009, 01:10 PM hey mr. dangles when you gonna come down to san antonio and take me under your wing? lol i saw your pics on 360wraps.com killer stuff man!
billy when eva you get a new bike head up on this way or when we hit austin you should meet us
Gsxr22xx 12-08-2009, 05:35 PM Where are you guys getting the red reflectors for the license plate bolts? Im about to relocate my plate tucked down just enough to be seen from the rear but the only thing im worried about is the distance of travel of the rear tire before it might rub the plate on a bigger bump.
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