im a pussy.....

straight up, ive been wanting to do wheelies for a couple weeks now. so far ill ive been able to do is 2 power ups in first that were probably less than a foot of the ground and lasted for like 2 seconds, maybe a little more. i was terrified. i have a 02 sixxer thats 2 down up front. so i should be able to power up in second, and i think ide be more comfortable doing that cause first was violent as hell. any suggestions you guys can give to help easy my fears. yeah i know, im a pussy. :D

Learn to use the clutch and cover the rear break so you don't go 1:00...and take it slow but use the clutch.......power wheelies are nt good.....you gain too much speed. rev it dump the clutch front end comes up a little....rev it a bit more.......practice in a open lot.............

second gear power ups may STILL be damn near impossible for you, unless you are standing up. Not sure though. i was stock geared onmy 03 600 and it was hard to clutch up a sitdown, but it could be done just had to hit the right time. It is all about timing and rider though. More than likely your pussy is sucking you forward on the bike and you dont know it :lol: . You are leaning forward into the wheelie, anticipating it.

just be ready to scratch that perdy bike of yours

second gear power ups may STILL be damn near impossible for you, unless you are standing up. Not sure though. i was stock geared onmy 03 600 and it was hard to clutch up a sitdown, but it could be done just had to hit the right time. It is all about timing and rider though. More than likely your pussy is sucking you forward on the bike and you dont know it :lol: . You are leaning forward into the wheelie, anticipating it. :funny: :laughingr :laughingr

hey man ive got the same bike with the same gearing!!! i had those same issueswhen i was first starting!!! i dont use the clutch in first gear or in 2...when you say its coming up violent i know what you mean...i roll in first..tyhe higher the rpms the faster it seems to come up on me, but if you dont wack the throttle closed like i know you are doing and just back off a little you will ride it out and set it down fairly smoothly..dont be afraid to give the bars a tug up with a little bounce...keep trying to get higher and higher!!! trust me you are nowhere near the balance point!!....tou should really film it so you can see your height!!! i always try and shift into 2 as soon as possible....i m not very good at 2 gear power ups!! my buddy jumps on my bike bounces it up standing and can just hold it so smooth..for me its still scary going that fast in a wheelie...ALWAYS KEEP YOUR THROTTLE HAND VERY SMOOTH AND MAKE SMALL ADJUSTMENTS... :thumbup: it will come!!!

so far i only do it on first gear, no clutch,just power up.................gettin' better at it,practice does work. :thumbup: PS...pikz commin' soon.

Being a pussy = you'll live longer.

k, thanx guys. ill just stick to first gear powerups and keep working at it.

i agree with pig...powerups are dangerous....They seem ok a 1st but then u try and get em higher and longer and u loop it...stand on your pegs 2nd gear bounce 1 time dump the clutch at about 11k but u gotta dump and bounce at the right time and seriously it comes up like a cock in a porno....I dono i just made that 1 up...hahaha try it tho really!

If u want my advice forget 2nd for now, practice clutching in 1st until u feel comfortable with the wheel coming up and are able to ride em out, that way, god forbid, if something does go wrong and u loop or come down awkward and spill the damage 2 u and your bike is minimized, start by rolling around 15mph, two finger the clutch until you feel it slip, increase your revs to about 2000rpm over road speed and let out the clutch quickly and smoothly, you will feel the bike jerk forward, when u get used to how that feels keep increasing revs over road speed by 1k each time you try until you feel the front wheel lift, your natural reflex will cause you to chop the throttle and set it down the first couple of times you lift it up, don't worry your not a pussy and you CAN do this, once you have the wheel coming up and are not chopping the throttle its time to find the right amount of revs over road speed that will lift the wheel between 2-3 feet off the ground, when u find this just keep the throttle right where it is and get use to the feeling of riding em out a little bit and setting it down gently, when you have this down start rolling on the throttle a little to bring the wheel a little higher and ride it out a little longer, when I say little I mean little, first has a lot of grunt in the upper rpm's and you can end up looping if you are too aggresive with the throttle, always wear all your gear and cover the back break just in case a sitiuation like that happens. Now once you have that down u can either try to find bp in 1st, which I don't recommend, or move on to 2nd, 2nd is just the same as first, there is no need to bounce, pull on the bars or stand up, 2nd will come up pretty much exactly the same way 1st does you'll just have to give it more throttle and make sure you scoot your ass all the way to the back off the seat, so it is touching the passenger seat, once you have 2nd down and are rollin em out good you can try standing up, stand ups are easier than sit downs because your weight is distibuted better, you can see the road and bp is lower than a sit down, the reason for starting out with sit downs is so you can get a feeling for riding wheelies coz standups are a little scary when you start tryin em and if you chop and set it down hard there is a much higher chance of spilling. Once you have 2nd down and are at bp you can try 3rd, thats were you are going to need to bounce and stand up, 3rd will come up in a sit down clutch only but it is difficult. Stand up on the pegs, slip the clutch, compress the forks by pushing down on your front end, when u feel the forks start to rebound let out the clutch and give it some gas and she'll lift right up. Wheelies are just about throttle control, balance and weight distibution, once you learn those 3 things you'll be ridin em out for miles. Hope this helps, cover your back break and always wear your gear. Ride safe!!!! S

Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Throttle Control Small Movement Do Not...throttle Chop And You Can Do It Fine...theres Always Another Chance...small Improvments!!

If u want my advice forget 2nd for now, practice clutching in 1st until u feel comfortable with the wheel coming up and are able to ride em out, that way, god forbid, if something does go wrong and u loop or come down awkward and spill the damage 2 u and your bike is minimized, start by rolling around 15mph, two finger the clutch until you feel it slip, increase your revs to about 2000rpm over road speed and let out the clutch quickly and smoothly, you will feel the bike jerk forward, when u get used to how that feels keep increasing revs over road speed by 1k each time you try until you feel the front wheel lift, your natural reflex will cause you to chop the throttle and set it down the first couple of times you lift it up, don't worry your not a pussy and you CAN do this, once you have the wheel coming up and are not chopping the throttle its time to find the right amount of revs over road speed that will lift the wheel between 2-3 feet off the ground, when u find this just keep the throttle right where it is and get use to the feeling of riding em out a little bit and setting it down gently, when you have this down start rolling on the throttle a little to bring the wheel a little higher and ride it out a little longer, when I say little I mean little, first has a lot of grunt in the upper rpm's and you can end up looping if you are too aggresive with the throttle, always wear all your gear and cover the back break just in case a sitiuation like that happens. Now once you have that down u can either try to find bp in 1st, which I don't recommend, or move on to 2nd, 2nd is just the same as first, there is no need to bounce, pull on the bars or stand up, 2nd will come up pretty much exactly the same way 1st does you'll just have to give it more throttle and make sure you scoot your ass all the way to the back off the seat, so it is touching the passenger seat, once you have 2nd down and are rollin em out good you can try standing up, stand ups are easier than sit downs because your weight is distibuted better, you can see the road and bp is lower than a sit down, the reason for starting out with sit downs is so you can get a feeling for riding wheelies coz standups are a little scary when you start tryin em and if you chop and set it down hard there is a much higher chance of spilling. Once you have 2nd down and are at bp you can try 3rd, thats were you are going to need to bounce and stand up, 3rd will come up in a sit down clutch only but it is difficult. Stand up on the pegs, slip the clutch, compress the forks by pushing down on your front end, when u feel the forks start to rebound let out the clutch and give it some gas and she'll lift right up. Wheelies are just about throttle control, balance and weight distibution, once you learn those 3 things you'll be ridin em out for miles. Hope this helps, cover your back break and always wear your gear. Ride safe!!!! S Your the man! ill give it a shot soon and let u know how it goes. i want to get my new tires on first though.

I dont care what bike u are on, power ups will hurt you, dont get me wrong, my 1000 ''wheelies"" under open throttle, you can pop it up but when you try to ride it out, you will eventually loop. If you have a 600, clutch first a little, take your time...even on a 1000 or 750 it is better to clutch, but second is better when you are actually trying to wheelie, if you try to power it up in first and ride it out, you will get hurt :thumbup:

wait wait wait....even if you clutch up 1st you will still get to the same height and rpm as you would under power....ive got the exact same bike and gearing as you!!!! took awhile to get them good but i can ride 1st gear from a power wheelie till red line and the higher i ride it the longer it goes!!!!but who cares about first gear wheelis they are just a little show off tool..but if you want them to look good ....when it starts to come up to what will feel really high to you let off throttle just a tad!!and hold it will either level off or start to come down...if it keeps coming up you will cut throttle off more ,trust me under power your reflexes are faster than the bikes....but if you clutch it the bike flies up and the throttle is so twitchy you never get it under control if you find the sweet spot!! 2nd clutch ups are the way and i start them only going about 30-35!! ride in second at 5k-6k(its funny if i want them higher ill do them from 5k....ride the tank if you want so your arms are not hanging on the grips(smooth throttle control)and it feels more under control.....pull in the clutch either with 1 or two fingers till 10k or 11k depending on the height you want...and snap the clutch!!!dont feather it...snap!! this will get you to a height where you can either go higher or lower...but the throttle response is alot!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smoother than first!!!!! this is what you will HAVE to do ..to ride good wheelies!! practice real small movements with throttle while in the air!!!! dude ive been working on this a long time with your exact bike and gearing...ill post some vids for you too see btw i ride with a thousand who never uses the clutch in any gear!!! shifts 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 he can ride the 3 forever.. but hes not scared of it people who ride 1ooo should not give advice to 600 riders its a whole different ball game sorry bro ive just done wheelies of both!!!! you will get it!!! :thumbup:

wait wait wait....even if you clutch up 1st you will still get to the same height and rpm as you would under power....ive got the exact same bike and gearing as you!!!! took awhile to get them good but i can ride 1st gear from a power wheelie till red line and the higher i ride it the longer it goes!!!!but who cares about first gear wheelis they are just a little show off tool..but if you want them to look good ....when it starts to come up to what will feel really high to you let off throttle just a tad!!and hold it will either level off or start to come down...if it keeps coming up you will cut throttle off more ,trust me under power your reflexes are faster than the bikes....but if you clutch it the bike flies up and the throttle is so twitchy you never get it under control if you find the sweet spot!! 2nd clutch ups are the way and i start them only going about 30-35!! ride in second at 5k-6k(its funny if i want them higher ill do them from 5k....ride the tank if you want so your arms are not hanging on the grips(smooth throttle control)and it feels more under control.....pull in the clutch either with 1 or two fingers till 10k or 11k depending on the height you want...and snap the clutch!!!dont feather it...snap!! this will get you to a height where you can either go higher or lower...but the throttle response is alot!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smoother than first!!!!! this is what you will HAVE to do ..to ride good wheelies!! practice real small movements with throttle while in the air!!!! dude ive been working on this a long time with your exact bike and gearing...ill post some vids for you too see btw i ride with a thousand who never uses the clutch in any gear!!! shifts 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 he can ride the 3 forever.. but hes not scared of it people who ride 1ooo should not give advice to 600 riders its a whole different ball game sorry bro ive just done wheelies of both!!!! you will get it!!! :thumbup: That shifting wheelie on a 1000 is sick...looks nice but sounds pretty hard..seen it done I have yet to get the balls to attempt that!! :headshake

wait wait wait....even if you clutch up 1st you will still get to the same height and rpm as you would under power....ive got the exact same bike and gearing as you!!!! took awhile to get them good but i can ride 1st gear from a power wheelie till red line and the higher i ride it the longer it goes!!!!but who cares about first gear wheelis they are just a little show off tool..but if you want them to look good ....when it starts to come up to what will feel really high to you let off throttle just a tad!!and hold it will either level off or start to come down...if it keeps coming up you will cut throttle off more ,trust me under power your reflexes are faster than the bikes....but if you clutch it the bike flies up and the throttle is so twitchy you never get it under control if you find the sweet spot!! 2nd clutch ups are the way and i start them only going about 30-35!! ride in second at 5k-6k(its funny if i want them higher ill do them from 5k....ride the tank if you want so your arms are not hanging on the grips(smooth throttle control)and it feels more under control.....pull in the clutch either with 1 or two fingers till 10k or 11k depending on the height you want...and snap the clutch!!!dont feather it...snap!! this will get you to a height where you can either go higher or lower...but the throttle response is alot!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smoother than first!!!!! this is what you will HAVE to do ..to ride good wheelies!! practice real small movements with throttle while in the air!!!! dude ive been working on this a long time with your exact bike and gearing...ill post some vids for you too see btw i ride with a thousand who never uses the clutch in any gear!!! shifts 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 he can ride the 3 forever.. but hes not scared of it people who ride 1ooo should not give advice to 600 riders its a whole different ball game sorry bro ive just done wheelies of both!!!! you will get it!!! :thumbup: thanx for the advice. ill give it a shot this weekend.

this might sound gay but to get to do decent wheelies i had to ride on the back of this guys 1000 while he did a wheelie!!! just so i get tthe feel of the heighth....he lited it up in 2nd no clutch and we rocde what felt like forever...then he went a little past balance point and shifted without the clutch...actually it felt so smooth!!! i was shocked because on my 600 it always kinda felt shaky and twitchy...but this guys been riding great wheelies for years!!hes actually a member on this site...trixxergixxer you gotta check out the pictures of his bike!!and mine just look up on the members list and find him then go to all posts started by us...hope you like them oo and we are going to the big kahuna so ill take lots of pics of the bikes!!!and we get to ride in the gsxr parade lap!!!!!!!!!! :arsenal :clap:

to power it up in second while sitting with stock gearing what was he doing like 70-80 mph?

to power it up in second while sitting with stock gearing what was he doing like 70-80 mph? On a 1000, with someone on the back... probably like 65 MPH

Directions: The following how-to is something I wish had been available when I first attempted to learn how to wheelie. It is meant for the novice stunter (NOT novice rider) on most 600+ cc modern sportbikes (although I DO NOT recommend you starting out on a Gix 1K or similar extreme-power bike). While the following is most definitely not the only way to start, it is the way I learned, and, reflecting back, I feel it is the best for the beginner. Of course, that's just my opinion. Anyway' I hope this helps y'all out. Leanangle_750. Two points to keep in mind when learning to Wheelie: 1. Keep things simple. You only have so much attention, and it's best to keep it divided by as few things as possible. Usually, when a beginning student is overwhelmed with trying to perform too many unfamiliar actions all at the same time, he or she tends not to perform any of them properly. The following approach to learning will stress using the fewest number of control inputs necessary to accomplish our goal' putting the front tire in the air. There are, essentially, three basic factors you need to control when performing a basic wheelie: 1. Acceleration (throttle control) 2. Fore/Aft weight distribution (body control) 3. Side/Side weight distribution (balance / body control) Any late model 600+ cc sportbike that I can think of, in stock form, will easily pull the front wheel up to 12-o-clock & beyond in 1st gear if you do nothing else than keep your body motionless and slam the throttle open once in the powerband. No shit. You may think this not to be the case, but trust me, unless your bike is malfunctioning, it's just that easy. The reason most people fail is due to the fact that they unwittingly shift their weight forward. We'll get to that later. The point being, there's no need to bounce it up, there's no need to clutch it up, and there's no need to roll off & on the throttle in 1st. Most of these techniques essentially fool the rider into committing him or herself to leaning their weight back - the rebound from the fork springs is, in my opinion, negligible. And the control that some people tout the clutch as offering you can easily be had with a well-practiced throttle hand. That means there's a lot less to do and think about when you're starting out, and that means you'll be a lot more likely to succeed, and a lot less likely to get hurt. Even using these 'other' techniques, you'll still need to control your throttle, your weight distribution, & your balance. There's just no sense in adding in more complication. 2. Keep things safe. That means finding a desolate stretch of straight road with good pavement(an old airstrip or race track would be best), wearing ALL your gear (gloves, leathers, boots, HELMET, HELMET, HELMET), having friends with cages present, and pre-ride checking your bike (tire condition & pressure, chain condition & slack, brakes, shift lever & position, etc.). It also includes using your head, thinking things through, and above all, not trying to rush your progress. There's no reason why you can't learn to roll nice wheelies without looping it. Remember, just because you know of or have watched people walk away from similar wrecks doesn't mean everyone does. The consequences of looping a hi-power sportbike are a serious matter. Now, since I'm going to recommend starting out rolling first gear wheelies, let's address a few concerns. Gearing and Gear Selection: To begin with, you won't need to gear your bike down. Like mentioned above, in stock form, most any modern 600+ sportbike needs nothing more, in first gear, than for you to not use your body-weight to screw things up. So do not throw a bigger sprocket in the back or a smaller one up front if you can't get it up in first. It's your fault, not the bike. You're only making things more dangerous for yourself once you finally do stifle your survival instincts long enough to let the wheel come up. Next, there's the issue of 1st gear being too twitchy. Well, for the experienced wheelie expert, 1st gear can be rather dangerous, since the balance point (the vertical point where you have to hang the front wheel to keep the bike from accelerating), is so high, and 1st gear does offer up alot of torque. But for the beginner, who will inevitably slam the throttle shut the minute the front tire comes off the tarmac, it's not really an issue. And trust me, even as quickly as the front wheel can come off the ground in 1st, it's no match for your reflexes, unless you've just chased a few percosets down with a pint of Jack Daniels. The fact is, once you get 2nd gear & higher wheelies up past midway point (and past the point where you need a lot of torque), they want to come up and over a lot faster than 1st gear wheelies do, since the gearing is higher. Also, 1st gear offers up tons of immediate engine braking. That means that as soon as you let off of the throttle, the engine braking effect literally sucks the front wheel back down to earth. This will work for you even if you are unfortunate enough to end up going past 12-o-clock. While this effect is apparent in all gears, it is much more so in 1st, and seems to take effect 'right away' in 2nd, particularly, there seems to be a sort of 'time lag' before it kicks in. The main reason I like first gear is that it offers the power necessary to bring the bike up while doing nothing more than maintaining a static body positioning and controlling the throttle. It allows you to free your mind and allow you to concentrate on throttle control, height control, and balance. It doesn't force you to make extreme body motions (throwing your weight back) which, when coupled with everything else, could definitely loop you quickly. In other words, I feel 1st gear to absolutely be the safest gear to learn in. Use of the rear brake: This is a controversial issue. Many advocate it's use as another tool that one can use to avoid a loop (which, if used properly, it is); others doubt it's ever going to get used by beginners until it's too late. My feelings on the subject are mixed. Personally, I don't use my rear brake very much at all during normal, everyday riding. Because of this, the use of the rear brake would, for me, definitely not be instinctive when trying to save a wheelie gone bad. I have, unfortunately, learned this fact the hard way when trying to save a 12-o-clock. I believe I thought of hitting the rear brake as my ass hit the pavement. On the flip side, if you do regularly use both the front & rear brakes, you might want to keep that thought in the back of your mind as a last-ditch save attempt. The thing that worries me most about the rear brake, however, is that even if it is used in time, it is very likely going to be used in panic, which could easily lead to a wreck just as bad as if the bike had simply looped over backwards. Personally, I feel that the use of engine braking (a passive safety feature) to pull down 1st gear wheelies is safer, and of course, much easier, since all you have to do is let off on the throttle. Finally, especially if you don't use the rear brake consistently, but even if you do, keeping it 'in mind' does use up some concentration that could be spent elsewhere. So, think about the issue, and make your own decisions on this one. Use of the Clutch This has already been covered, but I want to say it again. For first gear wheelies, do not use the clutch, you don't have to. Sure, you can use the clutch to feather the power in and control your height, but this is also something you can do equally as well with the throttle, with less wear & tear on your bike, and most importantly, while spending A LOT less concentration. The only reason I would change my opinion on this point is if you're coming from a dirtbiking background where you're already WAY familiar with the use of the clutch, where it's become instinctive. Otherwise, I say don,t use it. OK, Time to Pull Your First Wheelies! Good Luck!!!!!!! EVEN ON A KAT: http://katkrew.com/images/calw.jpg

did 5 first gear power ups. it feels smooth for the first couple feet up, then it starts comin up rediculously fast, i need to work on the throttle control aspect a lot, right now the gas is like an off and on switch. so easy to get the wheel up in first with this gearing. still scared as shit when im doin umm though.

when it starts coming up like that!!back off and hold!!if you dont feel it level off let off a little!!! its violent but you will get use to that!!

Directions: The following how-to is something I wish had been available when I first attempted to learn how to wheelie. It is meant for the novice stunter (NOT novice rider) on most 600+ cc modern sportbikes (although I DO NOT recommend you starting out on a Gix 1K or similar extreme-power bike). While the following is most definitely not the only way to start, it is the way I learned, and, reflecting back, I feel it is the best for the beginner. Of course, that's just my opinion. Anyway' I hope this helps y'all out. Leanangle_750. Two points to keep in mind when learning to Wheelie: 1. Keep things simple. You only have so much attention, and it's best to keep it divided by as few things as possible. Usually, when a beginning student is overwhelmed with trying to perform too many unfamiliar actions all at the same time, he or she tends not to perform any of them properly. The following approach to learning will stress using the fewest number of control inputs necessary to accomplish our goal' putting the front tire in the air. There are, essentially, three basic factors you need to control when performing a basic wheelie: 1. Acceleration (throttle control) 2. Fore/Aft weight distribution (body control) 3. Side/Side weight distribution (balance / body control) Any late model 600+ cc sportbike that I can think of, in stock form, will easily pull the front wheel up to 12-o-clock & beyond in 1st gear if you do nothing else than keep your body motionless and slam the throttle open once in the powerband. No shit. You may think this not to be the case, but trust me, unless your bike is malfunctioning, it's just that easy. The reason most people fail is due to the fact that they unwittingly shift their weight forward. We'll get to that later. The point being, there's no need to bounce it up, there's no need to clutch it up, and there's no need to roll off & on the throttle in 1st. Most of these techniques essentially fool the rider into committing him or herself to leaning their weight back - the rebound from the fork springs is, in my opinion, negligible. And the control that some people tout the clutch as offering you can easily be had with a well-practiced throttle hand. That means there's a lot less to do and think about when you're starting out, and that means you'll be a lot more likely to succeed, and a lot less likely to get hurt. Even using these 'other' techniques, you'll still need to control your throttle, your weight distribution, & your balance. There's just no sense in adding in more complication. 2. Keep things safe. That means finding a desolate stretch of straight road with good pavement(an old airstrip or race track would be best), wearing ALL your gear (gloves, leathers, boots, HELMET, HELMET, HELMET), having friends with cages present, and pre-ride checking your bike (tire condition & pressure, chain condition & slack, brakes, shift lever & position, etc.). It also includes using your head, thinking things through, and above all, not trying to rush your progress. There's no reason why you can't learn to roll nice wheelies without looping it. Remember, just because you know of or have watched people walk away from similar wrecks doesn't mean everyone does. The consequences of looping a hi-power sportbike are a serious matter. Now, since I'm going to recommend starting out rolling first gear wheelies, let's address a few concerns. Gearing and Gear Selection: To begin with, you won't need to gear your bike down. Like mentioned above, in stock form, most any modern 600+ sportbike needs nothing more, in first gear, than for you to not use your body-weight to screw things up. So do not throw a bigger sprocket in the back or a smaller one up front if you can't get it up in first. It's your fault, not the bike. You're only making things more dangerous for yourself once you finally do stifle your survival instincts long enough to let the wheel come up. Next, there's the issue of 1st gear being too twitchy. Well, for the experienced wheelie expert, 1st gear can be rather dangerous, since the balance point (the vertical point where you have to hang the front wheel to keep the bike from accelerating), is so high, and 1st gear does offer up alot of torque. But for the beginner, who will inevitably slam the throttle shut the minute the front tire comes off the tarmac, it's not really an issue. And trust me, even as quickly as the front wheel can come off the ground in 1st, it's no match for your reflexes, unless you've just chased a few percosets down with a pint of Jack Daniels. The fact is, once you get 2nd gear & higher wheelies up past midway point (and past the point where you need a lot of torque), they want to come up and over a lot faster than 1st gear wheelies do, since the gearing is higher. Also, 1st gear offers up tons of immediate engine braking. That means that as soon as you let off of the throttle, the engine braking effect literally sucks the front wheel back down to earth. This will work for you even if you are unfortunate enough to end up going past 12-o-clock. While this effect is apparent in all gears, it is much more so in 1st, and seems to take effect 'right away' in 2nd, particularly, there seems to be a sort of 'time lag' before it kicks in. The main reason I like first gear is that it offers the power necessary to bring the bike up while doing nothing more than maintaining a static body positioning and controlling the throttle. It allows you to free your mind and allow you to concentrate on throttle control, height control, and balance. It doesn't force you to make extreme body motions (throwing your weight back) which, when coupled with everything else, could definitely loop you quickly. In other words, I feel 1st gear to absolutely be the safest gear to learn in. Use of the rear brake: This is a controversial issue. Many advocate it's use as another tool that one can use to avoid a loop (which, if used properly, it is); others doubt it's ever going to get used by beginners until it's too late. My feelings on the subject are mixed. Personally, I don't use my rear brake very much at all during normal, everyday riding. Because of this, the use of the rear brake would, for me, definitely not be instinctive when trying to save a wheelie gone bad. I have, unfortunately, learned this fact the hard way when trying to save a 12-o-clock. I believe I thought of hitting the rear brake as my ass hit the pavement. On the flip side, if you do regularly use both the front & rear brakes, you might want to keep that thought in the back of your mind as a last-ditch save attempt. The thing that worries me most about the rear brake, however, is that even if it is used in time, it is very likely going to be used in panic, which could easily lead to a wreck just as bad as if the bike had simply looped over backwards. Personally, I feel that the use of engine braking (a passive safety feature) to pull down 1st gear wheelies is safer, and of course, much easier, since all you have to do is let off on the throttle. Finally, especially if you don't use the rear brake consistently, but even if you do, keeping it 'in mind' does use up some concentration that could be spent elsewhere. So, think about the issue, and make your own decisions on this one. Use of the Clutch This has already been covered, but I want to say it again. For first gear wheelies, do not use the clutch, you don't have to. Sure, you can use the clutch to feather the power in and control your height, but this is also something you can do equally as well with the throttle, with less wear & tear on your bike, and most importantly, while spending A LOT less concentration. The only reason I would change my opinion on this point is if you're coming from a dirtbiking background where you're already WAY familiar with the use of the clutch, where it's become instinctive. Otherwise, I say don,t use it. OK, Time to Pull Your First Wheelies! Good Luck!!!!!!! EVEN ON A KAT: http://katkrew.com/images/calw.jpg you know what would have been easier, if you looked at the sticky in this forum called wheelie 101, its the exact same thing :infrandom :thumbup:

Nice thanks for the info

at least you can admit that you can't get it up... try the blue pill!! :thumbup:

this may not be motivating but about 2 years ago my friend bought his first bike a 97 750 gsxr after a few months of getting to know the bike he wanted to try a wheelie and i told him take it easy dont try to some shit you see in the videos and he was going to attempt in 1st :headshake and he did like a 2 o clock :headshake and totally busted his ass and his bike but that didnt stop him after after about 6 hours in the hospital and 3 weeks of not wanting to look a bike he got back on and did a decent wheelie now he is a badass the moral of the story is dont give up everyone busts ass