clutching in second?

ohiogsxr
08-26-2005, 12:34 AM
So i get it to about 50 and its at around 5k rpms... I have a 01 gsxr 750 whats a good rev point to pop it up a bit? I tried power ups but there pretty violent. Also when i pop the clutch to i continue to increase throttle? Do i increase slowly or do i roll on it. I tried 7k and it felt like it wanted to come up but i got nervous i think and let off the throttle.

zombieman
08-26-2005, 08:02 AM
First, take your time and dont get to confident or to "ready" to ride a wheelie. Your really going to have to play with the bike at different RPM ranges and see what is best for your bike. I havent ridden a 750 in a long time so maybe some 750ers will be able to help alittle more. When practicing though, dont practice with intentions of riding one out. Practice simply to get the front tire off the ground and get a feel for the lift, and how fast it is coming up. Try different RPM ranges until you find the spot where it doenst come up to fast or violent. Then work at perticular RPM and try to ride it out until you hit the limiter or just before you hit it. Keep in mind if you do hit the limiter the bike will come down harder than if you decellrate before hitting it. Also remember, the higher the RPM's when you do get the bike up, the shorter your wheelie will be (until you start balancing the bike and not using the power once up). Dont graduate to changing gears until you have really gotten good at 2nd gear. All my advise is based on the 1000. I've only ridden a 750 one time, and know it takes alot more skill to ride a wheelie on them than on a 1000. :thumbup:

SarasotaGSXR
08-26-2005, 08:13 AM
Get your nutz off the tank, seriously, get your ass all the way to the back of the seat, thats what made the biggest difference in my wheel comin up sooner

cwest
08-26-2005, 08:23 AM
The clutching thing doesn't work for me on my 750. I compress the front end and power it up but standing up. Alot easier for me. Clutching it seems too violent.

joel
08-27-2005, 03:53 AM
Get your nutz off the tank, seriously, get your ass all the way to the back of the seat, thats what made the biggest difference in my wheel comin up sooner Just try to get your weight on the back of the seat, clench your knees around the tank or not, cover the rear brake and get a feeling of no weight on the front bars if u can. It may feel weird to you but it makes my 05 stockish 600 come up with absolute ease.( and i like to have half a tank of gas) Don't look at your tach, look ahead, try to find the bike's snappy point like 4-6or7k. I did roll on roll off but nothin spectacular happened just pop corn wheelies. Then I did wat i just said, look straight, ass back, weight off the bars, rear brake and reem that throttle. I tend to start round 5k then close and hit it and I ride a good bp wheelie. 2nd take a bit more twitch but all comes in time just practise and start small! I HOPE THIS HELPS A BIT COS IT MADE ME WHEELIE HEAPS EASIER! JOEL :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Got2josh
08-27-2005, 07:02 PM
I've got the same thing, 00 750, 2nd sit-downs come right up, you just have to stay on the gas. 2nd gear takes a lot more revs than 1st. Sitting going around 5-6k I probably rev to around 9-10k or so and drop the clutch. Starting out with sitdowns is cool but you just want to get used to the feeling and movement of clutching it, then once you're comfy start standups and learn balance point. It's all one smooth movement, takes probably half a second and from the time you pull the clutch in to the time you drop it. At the same time you want to pull in the clutch with one or two fingers enough to slip it but there's no need to pull it in all the way, just enough so the engine can rev pretty freely. At the same time you pull in the clutch you want to get onto the throttle pretty hard, I usually go around half throttle but it's easier to start at less, the key is just to be building revs when you drop the clutch and then STAY ON THE GAS after you drop it. Just practice dropping the clutch and staying on the gas and it'll come up, it take a lot of revs to get sitdowns up so don't get discouraged

steeds
08-27-2005, 11:58 PM
love how i fuckin posted the exact same thread and no one wrote to it..your all bitches

Got2josh
08-28-2005, 04:35 PM
these threads come up almost everyday, it's just so much easier to tell someone to search the board instead of re-type everything we typed in a previous post.

zombieman
08-29-2005, 03:50 PM
however, you also need to consider that new members also join everyday and also might have some knowledgable input on a repost. People tend to not search for questions to answer that are really old, everyone tends to look at the first page or so. Repost are not always frowned on in everyones eyes. people responses vary from post to post and could be more or less interesting than the prior post. Just like steeds said, his never got any responses, so why would anyone want to read it.

joel
08-29-2005, 06:31 PM
these threads come up almost everyday, it's just so much easier to tell someone to search the board instead of re-type everything we typed in a previous post. Yeh they should have some video or one dedicated section on how to wheelie. That wheelie 101 page was ok but could have done some fine tunin. What do you think. On the page they should have 1st gear. POWER and CLUTCHIES. 2nd gear POWER and CLUTCHIES. 3rd and so on. Maybe the moderators and administrators get somethin done and put a video together with a 600,750 and a 1000 cos this is gettin ridiculous! My 2 cents. 05 600 venom can, ozzy knobs, harris grips and c bar ends. :arsenal

crash187ct
08-30-2005, 08:46 AM
this is my first post, and i'm glad to find a website like this. but i found a thread i can sorta relate to. i'm in the process of learning how to clutch, been riding about 2 months now. already went through the process of wrecking and the whole nine yards (different story different time), anyways, i can ride all day long in 1st gear...pop it up and ride no problem. but i'm gonna try some of these suggestions like shifting my weight back, any other pointers?

Got2josh
08-30-2005, 09:25 AM
if you can ride bp in 1st then 2nd should be hella easy. It helps to stand, then clutch but with a lot more revs. If you can ride 1st for miles then 2nd should come along nicely.

joel
09-07-2005, 06:54 PM
this is my first post, and i'm glad to find a website like this. but i found a thread i can sorta relate to. i'm in the process of learning how to clutch, been riding about 2 months now. already went through the process of wrecking and the whole nine yards (different story different time), anyways, i can ride all day long in 1st gear...pop it up and ride no problem. but i'm gonna try some of these suggestions like shifting my weight back, any other pointers? Yeh weight back on the seat, make your arms weightless and you might feel stretched to the bars. Pick 2nd gear 5krpm cruise along clutch past friction point rev to 7-8k hit clutch quickly and smoothly,don't let it go in blind faith cos you want to feel in control and the front wheel should pop up 2ft or more. Keep on the gas and gas it up more if you want too. Get use to the pop then try gas to bp. It's not hard to learn and you won't cry yourself to sleep with fear just practice. Oh yeh cover the rear brake too! ;) ;) ;) Next time try the search option l8r

usdm420
09-07-2005, 07:12 PM
love how i fuckin posted the exact same thread and no one wrote to it..your all bitches awwwwwwwwww............... :fu:

sacgsxr
09-07-2005, 07:51 PM
i can clutch up at 70mph its all timing and slippin...start at low revs and wrap it up more and more every time its simple once you get it....rememeber you cant be a pro over night babys steps

my gsx-r 750
09-08-2005, 09:35 AM
ok I did my first clutch up wheelie, it popped up about 3-4 feet. but it came up so fast... I was diong about 55 in 2nd at 6krpm and let it off before it hit 8krpm.. It popped up real fast but it landed so hard... i am wonder if its because I was on a full gas tank... Is it ok to do wheelies on a full gas tank?

FuzioN
09-09-2005, 01:42 AM
no its cuz you were gutless and dropped the throttle.

zombieman
09-09-2005, 04:16 AM
ya, you have to ease of the throttle or it will slam down like that. Just keep doing what your doing and dont rush things. I swear, one day it will just happen. It seems like the better you get the more "slow motion" things go. I know its just because you have more control and time to change your elevation, etc. when you get better, but it feels kinda weard when you reach that point. Eventually you'll stop running out of gear and using your balance point rather than the accelleration to keep the bike up.