Can not bounce up second standing up!!!

I have been trying for weeks now trying to stand up and bounce second gear up. It just won't pop up. I am on a 02 600 btw. I get to about 45mph and stand up, let off the gas a little bit and push down with all my weight and then shift my weight back as I snap the throttle back. It just won't come up!I am trying to reach balance point and I'd rather bounce it up then clutch, atleast for now until I get better at stand ups. I've tried staggered a few times too with no luck, my form must be wrong, I think I am getting on the gas too late? I've watched videos of people doing to on other 600s (like a R6) and I think I am doing exactly what they are doing, if not bouncing more. When exactly do you hit the throttle? If someone could run by the steps for me or if I am missing something, please help! It seems like everyone is clutching it up, but the clutch comes up pretty fast and I am new to stand ups, thanks for the help guys!

Most people clutch it up. It is easier and safer to do so. 600 have enough power to throtle it up in second you just have to find the right RPM to snap it at and thry the staggered way again but lean back a lot more. Good luck :thumbup:

for the 05 cbr 66rr its at 9k, just sit to the back of the seat and relax ur upper body. Dont be affraid. and just give it practice. I did my first real wheelie on a 600rr of my friends. Just pop it up so you know it is possible, dont try to ride it out

my boys 600 you have to clutch it up in 2nd... never could get it to bounce up, my 750 will :D

my boys 600 you have to clutch it up in 2nd... never could get it to bounce up, my 750 will :D My 03 600 (same damn bike really) would throttle a standup in second all day, just gotta know the bike (stock gearing) hell itll clutch a standup anywhere from 35 MPH to 85 MPH if you know how to do it. As far as technique, You need to bounce on the pegs AND the bars, push the whole bike straight down. Then when it reaches the bottom of the bounce whack open the throttle and lean back a little bit. In second it should POP right up........ if done right it still will come up quick in second with no clutch.

Yeh your on the right track just timing I think. 03 600's got the mumbo. I hit my first stand up in 2nd 6-7krpm and whipped it up with a bounce. pegs and bars. Keep tryin !!! TIMING AND PRACTICE. Good luck

In my 1k just throttle, no need to bounce or clutch

well of course :lol:

why wouldn't you want to learn to clutch? That's how you're going to do it anyways once you learn bp, learn to clutch it now.

not really, i never use clutch and I can BP @ 20MPH

i can hit bp on a power wheelie, but im trying to time it right with bounce+clutch.

Well I got it to pop up about 6 inches maybe, thats a start haha. But I was just messing around coming home in my neighborhood and I bounced it really hard it and it popped up about a foot doing 30mph in second gear! I tugged on the bars pretty good because when I landed it was crooked! I am not really pushing down with my feet on the pegs too much, I'll have to try that more. I think I am leaning to far forward on the bounce, I am trying to put all my weight on the front then shit to the back but it's just not working. I think I'll try to just stay centered over the bike and slam down as hard as I can and throttle it up at the right time, hopefully, I gotta keep concentrating on covering the rear brake too. I want to learn how to bounce it up first, I will clutch it up after, I've only done first gear wheelies so far, and the clutch came up so fast, I know its easier with second, but I'm just gonna bounce, then clutch it, thanks guys, I am going back out again to practice. Everyday I try it atleast 6-10 times, hopefully I'll be able to hit BP soon and just ride them out!

You need to stay back for sure, bounce on the pegs and bars, and lean back to get it up, if you lean forward youll only push it back down.

I'm a little dude and thought that it wouldn't matter if I was leaning over the front of the bike too much. It does matter you really have to lean back putting your weight over the rear wheel. I also bounce more on my foot pegs than I do on my front end. I actually keep my arms pretty limp so that I can have more control over my throttle and steering. One last thing, COVER YOUR REAR BRAKE! It's all in timing the bounce/throttle, work at your own speed and they'll come to you. Good luck loco! :clap:

hey GSXRsix go to this website: http://video.mpegnation.com/a001600347084090805212141969.html it's a 10 min video of my buds and I. We rock the 600's and when you see us doing the freeway wheelies, it's all 2nd gear and bouncing it. The way I personally do it is by getting the bike around 6-7k rpms and let off throttle and bounce with all my weight then slam on the throttle. Works for me. Keep on practicing you'' get it.

aint to hard for me when i had my 50 cc just hold the clucth and use the gas

hey GSXRsix go to this website: http://video.mpegnation.com/a001600347084090805212141969.html it's a 10 min video of my buds and I. We rock the 600's and when you see us doing the freeway wheelies, it's all 2nd gear and bouncing it. The way I personally do it is by getting the bike around 6-7k rpms and let off throttle and bounce with all my weight then slam on the throttle. Works for me. Keep on practicing you'' get it. nice video dude!! you guys make it looks sooo easy! :bowdown:

Yeah, you guys made it look real easy in the video, I don't know what I am doing wrong, my wheelies just suck! I am getting real good at rolling endos and seat standers and sketchin but my wheelies need the most work. When exactly do you hit the gas? People told me to hit it when you bounce down because by the time you react and all, the bike will already be bouncing back up, and people have told me to hit it right when it bottoms out, but still ive tried both, no luck, i hit it around 45mph, I don't remember what rpm it is at. Do you use your hands and feet? Where is your weight at when you bounce, centered over the bike, on the front, back? I just don't know why I can't bring it up.

Speed up a little, try 55-60, stand up on your pegs, bounce down and let off gas at same time, when u feel bike about to rebound lean your ass back a little and goose it, should come right up

aint to hard for me when i had my 50 cc just hold the clucth and use the gas your 75 lbs 50cc has no compairison to a 400 lbs bike

why would you waste so much time trying to learn to power it up when, if you already can rock balance point in 1st, you could clutch it up in 2nd and get bp down within a day?? It's just stupid that so many people are too scared of the clutch to learn to wheelie right.

phat f'n movie bro!.............and i got a 600 like Sarasota said get to about 55...8k and bounce on her and just give it gas....even poppin it up is fine...ull get the hang of it trust me i felt the same way u did...good luck

I can't rock BP in first, yet, I am working on second first. Everytime I go to wheelie, I let off the gas, bounce it and then gas it up but my bike sometimes hesitates sort of. By the time the throttle kicks in, the bounce is already over and I just take off, but it never pops up. I'm gonna try it a little faster next time I get a chance, my friend bounces his, but he leans over more on the front end. How do you guys clutch it? Clutching scares the shit outta me, although, thats how I pop it up in first, I'm just worried about looping, thanks for the advice.

with the clutch you're not going to get that hesitation once in a while, it comes up the same almost everytime so it's very predictable, and 2nd gear doesn't come up nearly as fast as first does, you feel like you have a lot more control over it. Just start out revving it only 2-3k over road speed and then gradually increase the revs. I start out around 45-50 mph and slip the clutch to around 10-11k or so, I don't look at the tach though. If you really want to hear from a lot of people that know what they're talking about go to stuntlife.com, people there aren't going to tell you to start out with 1st gear power wheelies.

I'm on stuntlife.com but I never post, just read and watch the vids. But I have done power wheelies and lately I've been clutching first up a lot, second a little bit, all sitting down though. First comes up really fast, and I over revved it one time and almost looped it, scared the shit outta me, my balls killed when I came back down from that one. But now im going to start clutching 2nd more, but when I clutch, I don't look at the rpms, I just get on the gas then pull the clutch in for just a second and as I pull the clutch in, I rev it back more and when I let the clutch out, it pops up. The only problem with that, is I don't know what rpm im clutching at, if I try to pull the clutch in and rev it up a few grand and let it out, it doesn't pop up, only when I rev it while I clutch it. I need practice, practice, practice! And some more balls to try and rev it higher and maybe a cup for when it goes too high!

When i started out 2nd gear clutchies I start at 5000 then went obviously up to 8 then 9 then 10 but not much was happenin. I realised you had to pretty much flick the clutch in and out Quick. I mean half a second quick to get it up quick. pretty much now i just dump it on my k5 600 then gas it the rest of the way. :thumbup:

your 75 lbs 50cc has no compairison to a 400 lbs bike it is a HELL of a lot harder to BP a 50 than a sportbike.............

Watch that video again dude, you can see as they push DOWN and throttle it they shove their ass BACK and pull on the bars. IF you watch their technique on getting it up, youll get there............... now they just ned to get smoother, especially the dude on the yellow and black Gixx

fo sho----- :thumbup:

There is a guy that we ride with that has a f41 with stock gears and can bounce up in 3rd and ride it for about a mile. Your bike will do it. You just have to practice, practice, practice. I would bring it up to around 50 or so. The best thing to see what you are doing wrong is to have someone video you. Then you can see how high you really are and what you are doing wrong. You can also have a friend that knows what they are doing watch and give you some advise, video is best though. Learning is aggrivating but you will eventually get the timing down.

Yeah, we just got a new vid cam, I saw how high my clutch ups were and its pathetic, I knew they weren't great, I'm just scared. When I bounce it up, sometimes it won't even come up! It's horrible, I don't know what to do to fix it, I know my throttle is off on the rebound, it comes in way to late, but it seems like the bike itself is hesitating, not me, it takes a second for the gas to kick in. I dunno, the weather is getting bad here so I don't know how much time I have left to practice!

This is what I do (two ways) My Bike: K4 GSXR 750 Bounce Technique: I get going around 55-60 (or 8k rpm) in second gear, stand up, keep my right foot on the front peg and my left on the rear (more comfortable to me) I bounce ON THE PEGS, blip the throttle at the same time (your timing is delayed if you wait) and slightly pull up on my bars to lift the front up. She lifts right up to BP. As long as your at BP, you can go as long as you desire with out speeding up. The more you lean back, the better....however that is easier said than done at first. Your first instinct is to lean forward. Doing it 50 times in a row will solve this issue LOL. Clutch Technique (preferred by me): I get going 20-30 in second gear, stand up, keep my right foot on the front peg and my left on the rear peg, I slip the clutch out with one finger and throttle it up to BP (yes it comes up fast but is so much better because you don’t have to chase the front wheel to BP...you just clutch it there) I thin a lot of people think they are at BP or close but unless your at like 11:30 ish, your not even close. Film your self, your will quickly see where your at. The whole front will float, you don’t need much throttle and you stay at one speed. If your speeding up, your not at BP. Plain & Simple. If your afraid of looping, who isn’t? I suggest you continue with sit downs until they are mastered at BP and practice throttle control, and rear brake control. Your fear of looping will dissolve once you master the rear brake. The beauty of second is it is hard to loop if you have excellent throttle control because engine braking brings your front back down. I’ve gotten way to high several times and had to coast the wheelie (tank spreaders) but she came back down LOL. Anyways, I hope this helps. The more you do it, the faster your will learn the bounce technique and once ya have that, you move to achieving real BP, then onto clutching. Take your time and step into it.....ride safe.

hey GSXRsix go to this website: http://video.mpegnation.com/a001600347084090805212141969.html it's a 10 min video of my buds and I. We rock the 600's and when you see us doing the freeway wheelies, it's all 2nd gear and bouncing it. The way I personally do it is by getting the bike around 6-7k rpms and let off throttle and bounce with all my weight then slam on the throttle. Works for me. Keep on practicing you'' get it. This my friends is about the most dangerous way to learn any thing on one wheel. I wouldnt be suprised if one of these guys arent seriously mamed by these actions already. They are stunting like its 1999. However they might want to think about some gear. I dont know why but the whole music and theme of that video seems awful familiar.FTP4?? The best part of the videos is originality, i did see some supermans and highchairs that ive never seen. :thumbup: (probably cause no one else would put that shit on video let alone post it on the web as advice) Side note: I did laugh at the guy dancing at the red light! Just my .02

This my friends is about the most dangerous way to learn any thing on one wheel. I wouldnt be suprised if one of these guys arent seriously mamed by these actions already. They are stunting like its 1999. However they might want to think about some gear. I dont know why but the whole music and theme of that video seems awful familiar.FTP4?? The best part of the videos is originality, i did see some supermans and highchairs that ive never seen. :thumbup: (probably cause no one else would put that shit on video let alone post it on the web as advice) Side note: I did laugh at the guy dancing at the red light! Just my .02 Dude don't you know that for pulling fatty fat highway wheelies a tank top is the only way to go. Less wind resistance plus they really give you the freedom to move. :lol: For a second I thought the Star Boyz had released a new trailer or something. :clap:

That video was nice.