89 mustang wants to race

i was at this bar tonight and this guy i normaly talk to said he had this friend who has this 89 mustang with about 500 hp and i told him i would race and he called his friend and siad he would race me for 100 dollars so i said tomorrow cause i have been drinking, and im not a big fan of drinking n riding, so its on saturday ill let you know how bad i beat him.. or if worse comes to worse he beats me. btw i ride a 99, 600

i think youre toast lol

thats what i was thinking. but he dosent know i have a 600 and my friend has a 01 1000 and he says i could use his bike for a cut of the cash if i win but do you think i still stand a chance with a 1000

your still toast on the 1K. Reason. You are not used to the power of the bike. It is a totally different bike than the one you tide every day. Just be carefull.

If you race him don't do roll-on. Race from a standing start and then the 600 will have a good chance for a while. If you do a roll-on race then your friends 1000 will be a wise choice. Don't let us down :clap:

What speed your running to and how long also what type tires he running? If they are street tires You should have him, but if slicks watch out. Rool ons shouldn't be tooo bad since he has just 500 hp so on the 1k you should get him but on the 600 negative If you can ride you should be good though keep it under 140

well i have been riding for about 4 years i can launch pretty good and i have rode my friends 1000 frequently so i kinda know what to expect powerwise but ive never launched the 1000 im about to do some practice runs cause its a street race and the mustang has drag radials its about 10 in the morining here and they want to race around 5 or 6 i think with alittle practice i can take him btw my friends 1000 has a yosh slipon and a powercommander & pilot powers

oh yeah its from a stop and the mustangs a 5 speed hopefully hes not that good of a driver

thats what i was thinking. but he dosent know i have a 600 and my friend has a 01 1000 and he says i could use his bike for a cut of the cash if i win but do you think i still stand a chance with a 1000 are you kidding,,if he had 750hp it might be a race,,on the street,,i dought it..not against a 1000,,,come on.....

Just make sure you wear some GOOD gear and a helmet please! out of all the times ive been in houston (which is quiet frequency about once a month) i have only seen 1 guy riding with a helmet and no one wearing propper gear... hell the last time i saw 2 guys coming from auto zone hop on a early 00 ninja not a piece of gear between them and the passanger holding something in his hand ride off..... just sad

i pretty much always wear my helmet cause every body in houston cant drive and i will also wear my leather jacket (it makes me look like a better rider) :lol:

well a 500 hp 5.0 prolly runs mid 11's if hes a good driver so you should be able to stay right there on the 6 and the 1k should eat him up pretty good.

If you know what you're doing, and it seems like you do, you should have little trouble beating him. Launch is the main thing, if you launch shitty then you're fucked.

Sorry to say it but your toast unless your one hell of a rider, hope he doesnt get traction. If both skills are the same, its all gonna be in the launch EDIT: my lil "500hp" stang HAS beaten Busa's on the street with 17" drag radials. Dont let him try and talk you into any of the street racing tricks to give him the advantage either.

are you kidding,,if he had 750hp it might be a race,,on the street,,i dought it..not against a 1000,,,come on..... +++++++1

Sorry to say it but your toast unless your one hell of a rider, hope he doesnt get traction. If both skills are the same, its all gonna be in the launch EDIT: my lil "500hp" stang HAS beaten Busa's on the street with 17" drag radials. Dont let him try and talk you into any of the street racing tricks to give him the advantage either. you must be racing some real dumass,,there's no way a 500 rear wheel stang will touch my 1000,not even with a big shot of nos,,,now at the race track with slick's and a 1.25 60ft..maybe.......

you must be racing some real dumass,,there's no way a 500 rear wheel stang will touch my 1000,not even with a big shot of nos,,,now at the race track with slick's and a 1.25 60ft..maybe....... I never said how compotent the busa rider was but you got it backwards, on the track my car would loose NA to a busa with a good rider, its on the street that I can woop em. Anything can hook at the track, its on the street that takes skillz!!!!! :arsenal get em out the hole and walk em the whole 1320. With the jug hooked up I wouldnt hesitate at the track either though, too bad im selling the car

500 hp stang's are a dime a dozen around here,like i said,even with a shot of nos there not going to run with my 1000... :arsenal

Ill tellya what..if you use ur friends 1K. take off, slow down, let him catch up to ya, then ..do a wheelie by him!!!. hehe .. peace.

Ill tellya what..if you use ur friends 1K. take off, slow down, let him catch up to ya, then ..do a wheelie by him!!!. hehe .. peace. iv done that before, it pisses all over the other person lol its great!!!

Its Sunday & no new word ?? Wasnt the race yesterday ?? did ya get spanked :lol: ??? is that why you havent posted the result ??? Just messing with ya .. so what happened ???

the 1000 will be able to get him no problem roll ons,standing start long as your a decent driver.the 600 will also get him but you have to be a pretty good rider cause it will be a good race with just a 600 you will have a better chance from a standing start.good luck and launch hard as hell...........let us know what happens

yah whats the deal

he beat me by the smallest of margins cause he sprayed i was talking to him after and he told me he had a 250 fogger system on it and the car was gutted only a seat & steering wheel and was using my friends 1000 i had a decent launch if i had a better launch i might have takken him but anyways he beat me by about 1&1/2 links and i didnt post until today cause after i lost my $100 i went to college station cause my friend had a kegger and just got back today

there's no excuse for that shit... :headshake :headshake

Boooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hey at least he was honest...... Although i still don't think you should have lost on a 1000

Yeah I'd give him that, at least he was honest. But damn I would love at go at it with that same car.............I'm not saying a car can't take a bike, it has been done pretty of times before. But Damn I just haven't gotten my ass whooped by one yet............... Supercharged, Nitros, hell I just don't give a damn..............I need a ass whooping to sit still. Nice try anyway my friend. I truly believe you didn't get your best run cause your not use to the 1000. Had you ridding that bike alot more and got the feel for it. I think you would of handed his ass to him........................AGAIN NICE TRY.

Yeah I'd give him that, at least he was honest. But damn I would love at go at it with that same car.............I'm not saying a car can't take a bike, it has been done pretty of times before. But Damn I just haven't gotten my ass whooped by one yet............... Supercharged, Nitros, hell I just don't give a damn..............I need a ass whooping to sit still. Nice try anyway my friend. I truly believe you didn't get your best run cause your not use to the 1000. Had you ridding that bike alot more and got the feel for it. I think you would of handed his ass to him........................AGAIN NICE TRY. +1 :thumbup:

Yea Atleast You Were Honest....take Your Boys Bike Out Some More And Challenge That Rustang Again And Give To His Ass!!!!!! We All Have Faith In You...

fuck man........I was rootin' for ya..........

i know i am disapointed in myself but i might get a new bike and keep my 600 im thinking a new 1000 zuki the zuki dealers in my area are running a fianancing deal somethin like everyones approved.. because eventhough i lost 100 dollars i somehow still had a blast and who knows if i get the liter bike i might call out that mustang again

Hm, I regularly race a cobra that a friend owns, and I take my bike to watch the local autocross, and no one has beat me yet...can't wait to get sticky rubber, see what happens, allready just hover like 2 feet off the ground the first few gears....love that...

bring a gun, shoot him in the face

Shit happens. At least you stood by your challenge and paid up when you lost, and most of all didn't lie about it. That says alot about you. Even though you lost, your cool in my book. :thumbup:

bring a gun, shoot him in the face i dont have a handgun, but i do have a 12 gauge shotgun... that would look funny ridin a bike with a 12 gauge strapped to my back :arsenal

haha ther eis a picture posted here with someone doing that

Its nice to see that your honest about your loss. These fox's can be seriously quick on the street if someone knows what they are doing.

man that just sucks.........i haven't lost to a car on the street yet and thats with a 6..........and i've raced everything from a porsche GT2 to a late model camaro SS on the bottle..

man that just sucks.........i haven't lost to a car on the street yet and thats with a 6..........and i've raced everything from a porsche GT2 to a late model camaro SS on the bottle.. Arn't you just the stud :lol:

you don't need to be a stud to outrun a 500 rear wheel hp car.. :headshake

I was on the highway over the summer, beautiful afternoon on the 750 and no-one was around. So I'm cruising at like 90 when a 93-94ish supra pulled up beside me, we both looked at eachother and sped up a bit, 110-120-140, now we're cruising at 150 when he looks at me, I look at him, and he takes off like I wasn't moving. I went WOT in 5th and he was just GONE. My jaw's all hanging open as I see his tailights dissapearing fast, and I'm going 170, it was the craziest thing I've seen, he just took off so freakin' fast, must've hit at least 200. But that's the only time a car has smoked me. Up to about 100-110 I can take my friends 600 hp 99 viper, but on the freeway I'm toast.

What the hell did he have in that damn car, a stealth engine. I must say it is capable of a car taking out a bike, but I have not had my ass handed to me in such a way YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When I learn to master the highway wheelies. I will not only pull hard from that car, that's trying it's hardest to rund along side me, but I will raise that front tire and be out on em like Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: Now thats the proper way to whoop a cager ass................ :thumbup:

you don't need to be a stud to outrun a 500 rear wheel hp car.. :headshake that stang had 500 hp and a 250 fogger shot so somewhere in the neighbor hood of 750 give or take some horses

that stang had 500 hp and a 250 fogger shot so somewhere in the neighbor hood of 750 give or take some horses that's not enough for my 1000,,not on the street..i can leave almost as hard on the street as the track.........there's a guy in okc driving a 10.5 outlaw car around that's been 7.60 .it made over 1700hp on the dyno,,,maybe he's telling everyone he has 500 rear wheel hp ........

sounds to me like a hustle setting up. i would take the loss as an investment and insentive to learn how to race the 1000. up the stakes on a rematch he will bite! To a hustler 3rd time is a charm,and thats when you get the big bucks. I would race him again for say 150.00 and purposly lose ,but not by much. kick the tire on your bike yell some cuss words, take a crappy helmet ,and bust in on the ground,and do your best trying to talk your way out of paying him the money with things like:"Well i had planned on not making you pay me if you lost".That way you dont feel bad taking his 500.00 on the next race,because he will make you pay up, so you may be out 250.00 but thats all going to change on the next race. Thats what I would do ! its up to you. its all fun anyways :thumbup:

500rwhp in a car is ALOT. That should easily be 10s all day. Not to mention, most cars the gearing alows it to go past 200mph, it just needs enough power to get up there.

your right,if the car is around 3250lb with driver,and is a hard launching car, it will go mid to high 10s at the drag strip,,on the street it's only a mid 11 sec car,,add the 250 shot of nos,which will cause traction problems,and it might go mid 10s on the street,,not near enough for my 1000.............

you have to be carefull now days, there are a lot of really fast street cars out there. and most of the time they dont look as fast as they are.i know my 1000 is fast , but realisticly its "magazine test" 1/4 times are in the very high 9 to 10.0 sec zones with a pro driver and on a track.you will never get that same time on the street, so lets say you are really good at launching your bike your maybe in the low 10 sec zone.( with a 1000 maybe high 10s or low 11s with a 600 . test for 04 600 list it at 10.64 ) i know there are a lot of cars in my area that will do that on the steet ( my mustang included ) and even some much faster, hell my buddy down the street is running 9 teens on pump gas in his 96 saleen clone. dont get me wrong, most bikes will walk about any car that is next to them, but there are those few out there that will suprise you.. :thumbup:

hey as long as they can take out those damn honda 'tuner' punks.. no offense to anyone on here that has one.... but up this way they are ass's.. took a friend out on his bike just cause he was gonna pass him.. Raven

Arn't you just the stud :lol: nah.....i don't even like street racing anymore....got me into too much shit back in the day. BUT..i figure if the car seems "worth it" i might give it a go...hell if a cop sees a bike and a porsche going at it....i figure he's gonna try and nab the porsche driver if anything. :thumbup:

I hate to say it, but you should have spanked that car. I drag race at the drag strip quite a bit against really fast cars and have only been beat once, and that was a full on drag car with tube chassis and such. It is all in the launch, and I ride a stock gsxr 1000.

i figure he's gonna try and nab the porsche driver if anything. :thumbup: +1 I don't get to many cars looking to flex their muscle to much. The last I got was a 69 Camaro who tried me while my girl and I was heading up to Boston from the Cape. I was just a cruising at say bout 80 mph. and went past him cause he was in the slow lane. The next thing I knew about a mile and a half down the road I look in I mirror and this guy is a coming hard. I turned around looked over my girls shoulder and she looked as well. So right then the mood was set.......... :lol: I tapped her leg once we both turned around. Now looking in the rear view mirror i timed it just right. Right before his bumper matched side by side with me. I tapped my girls leg again and we both tucked down and rolled the HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Need I say he never saw the front of my bike. let alone us again period :lol: :lol: :lol: My girl loves that type of shyt.................. :thumbup:

good thread... makes for good reading....sounds like to me u got hustled.. i dont see how...but u did. i have raced several cars on my 05 1k and have yet to lose. i raced a procharged 00 vette that made 560rwhp...and i even gave him his advantage....70mph roll on..i got him by 2-3 bus lengths :lol: that was all motor....another guy in a 70 nova with a 406/turbo 350 and some 3.42 gears..and was running nitrous...dont know how much, u know how street racers are..but we went from about a 10mph roll and i did spray him just to embarrass him...his exact words were.."damn..u pulled me like a freight train" and u got so far ahead i could barely see you. i have been working on racing a local viper that makes upwards of 900 rwhp..has a procharger and spray. has been 9.5's@144 so he should be a close run..but on the street i think ill get him..he does out 60' me at the track. but we will find out prob early spring. it takes alot for a car to outrun a bike..but ive been riding bikes and drag racing them for 8+ years and the average rider cant leave on them like an experienced rider can. but an example...my bike bone stock ran a 6.52@ 115 mph in the 8th..thats me being 195lbs suited...tell me what "average" street car can do that. i know it can be done..but not by just an average car.. the car for one might run the et..but i promise u it wont do the same mph..and mph is what will win a race. my mustang that i race has been low 6.70's at only 103mph..thats 12 mph difference..if u have ever seen what a 12 mph pull is....you know its not pretty. .just my .02

good thread... makes for good reading....sounds like to me u got hustled.. i dont see how...but u did. i have raced several cars on my 05 1k and have yet to lose. i raced a procharged 00 vette that made 560rwhp...and i even gave him his advantage....70mph roll on..i got him by 2-3 bus lengths :lol: that was all motor....another guy in a 70 nova with a 406/turbo 350 and some 3.42 gears..and was running nitrous...dont know how much, u know how street racers are..but we went from about a 10mph roll and i did spray him just to embarrass him...his exact words were.."damn..u pulled me like a freight train" and u got so far ahead i could barely see you. i have been working on racing a local viper that makes upwards of 900 rwhp..has a procharger and spray. has been 9.5's@144 so he should be a close run..but on the street i think ill get him..he does out 60' me at the track. but we will find out prob early spring. it takes alot for a car to outrun a bike..but ive been riding bikes and drag racing them for 8+ years and the average rider cant leave on them like an experienced rider can. but an example...my bike bone stock ran a 6.52@ 115 mph in the 8th..thats me being 195lbs suited...tell me what "average" street car can do that. i know it can be done..but not by just an average car.. the car for one might run the et..but i promise u it wont do the same mph..and mph is what will win a race. my mustang that i race has been low 6.70's at only 103mph..thats 12 mph difference..if u have ever seen what a 12 mph pull is....you know its not pretty. .just my .02 from a roll???? a car has to have a lot, and I mean a lot of power to be able to take or keep up with a bike from a roll!!

u are correct but the vette has traction issues from a dig

from a roll???? a car has to have a lot, and I mean a lot of power to be able to take or keep up with a bike from a roll!! actually its ALOT easier for a car to kill you or give you a fight from a roll :thumbup: its to the car's advantage the faster you are going BEFORE you start racing.......the more HP the vehicle has, the more it'll show up top at higher speeds...its from a complete stop where a bike shines.

haha unless its say, an AWD DSM, Evo or STi LoL i've seen a few hang w/ bikes out the hole...

you get points for being honest. But bottom line is I don't think you can ride if you let him beat you and you used the 1K. You still get points in my book for having balls to do that because alot of people talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

i agree as well..atleast he stepped up to the plate. :thumbup:

lotsa people on this site tried to warn me about the 1k i should have listened i wasent used to the power from the launch i pulled a tiny wheelie and had to let off a little and by that time he was ahead

good thread... makes for good reading....sounds like to me u got hustled.. i dont see how...but u did. i have raced several cars on my 05 1k and have yet to lose. i raced a procharged 00 vette that made 560rwhp...and i even gave him his advantage....70mph roll on..i got him by 2-3 bus lengths :lol: that was all motor....another guy in a 70 nova with a 406/turbo 350 and some 3.42 gears..and was running nitrous...dont know how much, u know how street racers are..but we went from about a 10mph roll and i did spray him just to embarrass him...his exact words were.."damn..u pulled me like a freight train" and u got so far ahead i could barely see you. i have been working on racing a local viper that makes upwards of 900 rwhp..has a procharger and spray. has been 9.5's@144 so he should be a close run..but on the street i think ill get him..he does out 60' me at the track. but we will find out prob early spring. it takes alot for a car to outrun a bike..but ive been riding bikes and drag racing them for 8+ years and the average rider cant leave on them like an experienced rider can. but an example...my bike bone stock ran a 6.52@ 115 mph in the 8th..thats me being 195lbs suited...tell me what "average" street car can do that. i know it can be done..but not by just an average car.. the car for one might run the et..but i promise u it wont do the same mph..and mph is what will win a race. my mustang that i race has been low 6.70's at only 103mph..thats 12 mph difference..if u have ever seen what a 12 mph pull is....you know its not pretty. .just my .02 yeah you should nab that Viper on the street no probs....especially cuz i DOUBT he'll be rolling slicks on the street unless he trailers the bitch to the race spot... i had a guy yapping about his new Viper all day today while I was chilling with my girl...(he's a youngster who's parents won the lotto a while back) needless to say i shut his ass up after asking him in front of everyone if he wanted to race heads up for his car....and i used my "serious" face when i asked him too :lol: "C'mon man, your KILLER Viper against my measley 'ol 600....for your car or $500, whatever" :yumyum:

yeah you should nab that Viper on the street no probs....especially cuz i DOUBT he'll be rolling slicks on the street unless he trailers the bitch to the race spot... i had a guy yapping about his new Viper all day today while I was chilling with my girl...(he's a youngster who's parents won the lotto a while back) needless to say i shut his ass up after asking him in front of everyone if he wanted to race heads up for his car....and i used my "serious" face when i asked him too :lol: "C'mon man, your KILLER Viper against my measley 'ol 600....for your car or $500, whatever" :yumyum: Now that's what I like to hear!

the viper that im referring to..only runs slicks...and if he does decide to race..he wants to do it at a 1/4 mile track..we have a track that will allow bikes/cars to race each other. but i am currently doing a few new mods to my bike..so i dont think he has a chance either way....his car did dyno 890rwhp on a dynojet. 950rwtq..i think it will be a good race...too bad we have to wait til spring ...

keep us posted when you race. I'm interested to hear the reasults.

will do man :thumbup:

ehhhhhh HP #'s can only do so much.....a vehicle like that can only do so much before the driver has to take over or parts start breaking.

Be glad it was only a hundred bux.

I agree, I think you might be getting hustled. Is the 'stang blown? I have some friends that run 5.0 Mustangs with Vortecs and are getting 750+ out of them and that's without the spray. They're running mid to low 9's on street tires. Of course they're stripped out cars like this one you're talking about - some even running with plexi-glass windows and the whole deal. They obviously know people because these are California cars and are street drivers and currect DMV tagged. BTW, the bottom ends are junk yard pull-outs with only heards, intakes and the other bolt on parts. When they blow one up they just make a run to the salvage yard and grab another short block. Crazy fast and cheap. Rooster

wasnt blown, and wasnt a 5.0 they told me after the race it was a 460 not sure how many liters that is probably about 7.5 :2hard

the viper that im referring to..only runs slicks...and if he does decide to race..he wants to do it at a 1/4 mile track..we have a track that will allow bikes/cars to race each other. but i am currently doing a few new mods to my bike..so i dont think he has a chance either way....his car did dyno 890rwhp on a dynojet. 950rwtq..i think it will be a good race...too bad we have to wait til spring ... are you stretched and lowered or what? if not i'd put my money on the viper. stock wheelbase and juice = nasty wheelies or slow 330's which means the viper will jump u and wont stop pulling. if you did a roll on with the viper i'd bet you'd run side by side. so unless you get outta the hole good your going to lose. a bike has the same traction problems a car does on the street obviouslly a bikes got an advantage but not a whole lot of people can use it on the street. ive seen all sorts of 12 sec cars smoke 11 sec cars on the street its the nature of the beast. street racing is about applyin usable power to the ground. and for all the people who are doggin this guy for losing cars beat bikes all the time, i dont know why you think your bike is the fastest shit out there, granted theres not a lot of them on the street but if you look hard enough you will find street cars that will kill you

nobody said there aren't street car's out there that can outrun a bike,,,the post started about a 550 rear wheel horsepower car,,if that accurate,,,there's no excuse to get outrun on a 1000,,,how freaking hard is it to roll off the line,and hit the shift point's,,you don't need to be a good rider to do that.and i'll still take the bike against that viper,,on the street,,not at the track,,,,,,,,as i said before,,there's a 10.5 outlaw car that run's around the steet's of okc,that run's 7.60s......i dought you want any of that car for sure......

nobody said there aren't street car's out there that can outrun a bike,,,the post started about a 550 rear wheel horsepower car,,if that accurate,,,there's no excuse to get outrun on a 1000,,,how freaking hard is it to roll off the line,and hit the shift point's,,you don't need to be a good rider to do that.and i'll still take the bike against that viper,,on the street,,not at the track,,,,,,,,as i said before,,there's a 10.5 outlaw car that run's around the steet's of okc,that run's 7.60s......i dought you want any of that car for sure...... it was around 500 wheel hp (give or take)+ a 250 fogger shot on a gutted mustang cheesedik

a gutted car setup right making over 500hp will be challenge for any stock bike, sorry thats all there is too it.

yeah,i guess i no nothing about drag racing,ive only been building race cars for 14 years,,,,500hp..isn't going to touch my 1000.,not on the street,,,maybe at the track....he just got suckered,,,the car is making more power then that,,,or somebody just can't ride.......

well you guys are saying 500hp, are you talking about to the wheels or two the crank??? 500hp, a couple of cars you can buy off the lot (if you have the money) make that much. But if you are talking about 500hp......to the wheels..thats a big ass difference, if talking about rwd, the loss is about 19% to the wheels. THat mean that car has close to 700hp if its putting 500 to the wheels.

well you guys are saying 500hp, are you talking about to the wheels or two the crank??? 500hp, a couple of cars you can buy off the lot (if you have the money) make that much. But if you are talking about 500hp......to the wheels..thats a big ass difference, if talking about rwd, the loss is about 19% to the wheels. THat mean that car has close to 700hp if its putting 500 to the wheels. 19% more than 500 would be around 595 hp..not 700

19% more than 500 would be around 595 hp..not 700 your math is wrong too.... Example. If they say a car has 500hp, that is say from the dealer mags or some shit. Its got 500hp. Let's see how much it puts down to the wheels. There's a 19% power loss when factoring crank to the wheels, i could be wrong cause it might be more maybe more of the 20-22%. Let's do the math. 500, and then minus 19% of that you get........405. Cool beans. So i was wrong too, just overaggerated (fuck i can't spell). A car that puts about 500hp to the wheels, is rated at having 617-641, that is anywhere from a 19-22% loss.

it's not just the horespower,,,,he was talking about a small tire car,,on the street,,where he can't rely on the hard launch that he gets at the sticky race track,,,,,and then trying to keep the car hooked up,,with a fogger,nos,,,i leave his ass setting,,and pull away....there's a blown camaro here in town,big tire,back half car,,,run's high 8s at the track,,,,got smoked by a r-1 with no nos,,,,why,,,because the bike left on him big time....there's also a 55 chevy around ,,small tire,,,run's 9.80s at the track,,,got smoked by a little crack head on an r-6,,the guy only weights 110lb.....it's damn hard to keep a car hooked up with that much power........nothing i enjoy more then to outrun some dumass like that...........

who brags about crank HP?? i would hope he was talking to the wheels.

your math is wrong too.... Example. If they say a car has 500hp, that is say from the dealer mags or some shit. Its got 500hp. Let's see how much it puts down to the wheels. There's a 19% power loss when factoring crank to the wheels, i could be wrong cause it might be more maybe more of the 20-22%. Let's do the math. 500, and then minus 19% of that you get........405. Cool beans. So i was wrong too, just overaggerated (fuck i can't spell). A car that puts about 500hp to the wheels, is rated at having 617-641, that is anywhere from a 19-22% loss. no...what i said was right..so u say 19% more than 500 is 617..your wrong..take 500 and multiply it by 1.19...that would be 19% more than 500 and its 595. so my math was right..urs is still wrong..

no...what i said was right..so u say 19% more than 500 is 617..your wrong..take 500 and multiply it by 1.19...that would be 19% more than 500 and its 595. so my math was right..urs is still wrong.. no your doing reverse math. If you say there is a 19% loss, it doesn't mean you multiply the 500 by 19% and add that. Because, you didn't lose 19%. You didn't lose 19% of the "500hp" you lose 19% of the number from the crank, which is higher. Go search for some car (a stock car) dyno graphs. For example, I had a 2000 honda civic Si. This car is suppsoed to have 160hp and 111ft/lb of torque. This number of course, is the number rated to the crank, like all car markers give. Now lets take my car to the dyno and see how much power it puts to the wheels. There is a "drivetrail" loss, because if having to go through the drivetrain, so by the time the power that is made gets to the wheels, it will be less. Being a front wheel drive car, drivetrain loss on this car is lower than RWD and AWD cars. It drivetrain loss on average in a FWD car is 17%, give or take 1-2%. Let's do the math. 160 x 0.17 = 27.2. That means I lose 27.2 HP to the wheels. So... 160 - 27.2 = 132.8 = HP to the wheels in a FWD car. and that is about right, a stock Si will put down anywhere from 130-138 to the wheels in bone stock form. So say car makers didn't advertise by Crank HP (which they call true HP cause thats how much the motor makes by itself.) Let's say we live in a world where they advister cars by wheel horse power. So the 2000 Honda Civic Si comes out. They say the car makes 132.8 hp to the wheels. Let's find out how much it makes to the crank. Let's reverse the math and think. So if FWD cars lose 17% of the crank hp to the time it reaches the wheels. That means....132.8 is 17% less of the crank hp number would be. That is how you have to see the equation. (Not 132.8 with 17% more, which is..the wrong equation.) So that means 132.8 is 83% of what the Crank hp number is. You get 83% from 100%-17% which is 83%, we are doing the reverse. So the equation is, CRANK HP x 83% = 132.8. How do we find it? Many ways for all you math wiz's out there. But the way I do it. I take 132.8 and divide that by 83% So let's do it. Remember 100% is 1.0 so that means 83% is 0.83. 132.8 / 0.83 = 160. Badabang! 160 is the hp rated to the crank. So do you get it? If someone said a car makes 500HP to the wheels. And you want to find how much it makes to crank. The number would be higher. It means 500 is a % of some number. In a rear wheel drive, I do believe the power loss is anywhere from 19-22%. It's been a while and I think thats right. All wheel drive cars is about 22-25% loss to the wheels, and Front Wheel drive cars is anywhere from 16-19%. So go ahead, knock yourself out and try it. Math doesn't lie. And I suck at math to begin with, and no I don't know magic.

tell him ill race him lol ill even go 200 bucks

no your doing reverse math. If you say there is a 19% loss, it doesn't mean you multiply the 500 by 19% and add that. Because, you didn't lose 19%. You didn't lose 19% of the "500hp" you lose 19% of the number from the crank, which is higher. Go search for some car (a stock car) dyno graphs. For example, I had a 2000 honda civic Si. This car is suppsoed to have 160hp and 111ft/lb of torque. This number of course, is the number rated to the crank, like all car markers give. Now lets take my car to the dyno and see how much power it puts to the wheels. There is a "drivetrail" loss, because if having to go through the drivetrain, so by the time the power that is made gets to the wheels, it will be less. Being a front wheel drive car, drivetrain loss on this car is lower than RWD and AWD cars. It drivetrain loss on average in a FWD car is 17%, give or take 1-2%. Let's do the math. 160 x 0.17 = 27.2. That means I lose 27.2 HP to the wheels. So... 160 - 27.2 = 132.8 = HP to the wheels in a FWD car. and that is about right, a stock Si will put down anywhere from 130-138 to the wheels in bone stock form. So say car makers didn't advertise by Crank HP (which they call true HP cause thats how much the motor makes by itself.) Let's say we live in a world where they advister cars by wheel horse power. So the 2000 Honda Civic Si comes out. They say the car makes 132.8 hp to the wheels. Let's find out how much it makes to the crank. Let's reverse the math and think. So if FWD cars lose 17% of the crank hp to the time it reaches the wheels. That means....132.8 is 17% less of the crank hp number would be. That is how you have to see the equation. (Not 132.8 with 17% more, which is..the wrong equation.) So that means 132.8 is 83% of what the Crank hp number is. You get 83% from 100%-17% which is 83%, we are doing the reverse. So the equation is, CRANK HP x 83% = 132.8. How do we find it? Many ways for all you math wiz's out there. But the way I do it. I take 132.8 and divide that by 83% So let's do it. Remember 100% is 1.0 so that means 83% is 0.83. 132.8 / 0.83 = 160. Badabang! 160 is the hp rated to the crank. So do you get it? If someone said a car makes 500HP to the wheels. And you want to find how much it makes to crank. The number would be higher. It means 500 is a % of some number. In a rear wheel drive, I do believe the power loss is anywhere from 19-22%. It's been a while and I think thats right. All wheel drive cars is about 22-25% loss to the wheels, and Front Wheel drive cars is anywhere from 16-19%. So go ahead, knock yourself out and try it. Math doesn't lie. And I suck at math to begin with, and no I don't know magic. 19% is a little high. RWD drivetrain loss is around 15-17%...FWD is less loss than RWD, (12-16%-or so), but your AWD estimate is about right. http://www.superstang.com/horsepower.htm

oh, and at high speeds (100+) that brick-in-the-wind foxbody should be nowhere near you, even if it has 800whp

sorry to hear that mate I screwed a lambo marciallego, it was a rolon & he had no chance, he had the top speed cause I saw him gaining distance on the long run "mirror" but I took my hand of the gas so I won my self a 300$. so don't give me the crap of a mustang beating the crap out of a 1000, by the way then I had a 05 R1. :clap:

It was good lil story to tell your friends. i dont do straight line shooting or car vs bike racing so i wont add to the mayhem of if you should have won or not. A few months back i was riding to vegas on my bike (05 1000) minding my own business when a guy in a BMW M5 rolled up beside me then looked at me as if to say you dont want none then sped away. I was cruising in 6th gear so i down shifted and took off after him. i caught up pretty fast but once he saw me comming he floored it and was gone. we got up to 160+ (indicated) and stayed pretty even but thats where i drew the line. i let off the throttle and let him go. His M5 was suped to the roof all sorts of engine work as well as electronics. im not saying i could have beaten him or he could have beaten me but his car was fast as hell and seemed like it could keep on going.His car was well over the 200,000.00 range (car alone is 120,000.00+) The 15 leading to vegas is a long stretch of frwy that is clean in parts and open so a vehicle can be taken to its limits or at least pretty close as far as speed goes. I was in full leathers but i still didnt want to go down doing well over 100 mph. there is a time and place to do that sort of thing and the streets isnt one of them for me. For you guys /gals that do it be safe out there. :thumbup:

like the honesty. only thing the stangs have going against them is rear traction.. With slicks or not, they get squirly.. had a 95 5.0... Got beat by a damn mazda 6, even though he sprayed. i'd prolly one if he didn' thave the bottle. but hey it was just $50

a late model camaro SS on the bottle.. On the bottle? What was it drinking? They tend to get mean with Jim Beam.

On the bottle? What was it drinking? They tend to get mean with Jim Beam. :lol: