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Old 06-13-2007, 05:10 AM   #1
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I have heard many different figures. I hear people saying that gsx-r's reach their (100k miles car equivilent) at about 20,000 miles. In other words, that a gsx-r is only good until around 20,000 miles. Is there truth to this? Ive seen bikes like these listed with way over 20k miles on them...The bike im looking to buy has 3900 miles and its got mods, so its more costly. I just want to be informed before i make a decision. Thank you kindly!
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if taken care of a bike can go over 100k miles. there are guys on here with gsxr's with 40k miles on there bikes.
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I have heard many different figures. I hear people saying that gsx-r's reach their (100k miles car equivilent) at about 20,000 miles. In other words, that a gsx-r is only good until around 20,000 miles. Is there truth to this? Ive seen bikes like these listed with way over 20k miles on them...The bike im looking to buy has 3900 miles and its got mods, so its more costly. I just want to be informed before i make a decision. Thank you kindly!
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Old 06-13-2007, 05:33 AM   #4
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I have a good friend with a 929 that has almost 40k miles. Still runs good and strong.
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Old 06-13-2007, 05:44 AM   #5
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I know it's a different type of bike but a guy I used to work with has a Moto Guzzi with 140k on it. He's traveled the majority of the country on it and is religious about the maintenance which I would have to say is key to keeping anything running for an extended amount of time. If a GSXR is only good for 20k I am going to unplug the speedometer so I won't know when I hit that mark.
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:04 AM   #6
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LOL you guys are funny! I have seen a few bikes with over 100K on them. Just regular maint and they should last a while. I'm about 300 miles away from the 20K mark
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:27 AM   #7
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If you ride hard all the time and do tons of wheelies 20k may be the magic number.

I expect my 600 to last a really really long time. I don't ride real hard or anything. And I am religious about maintenance. I have 3300 miles on mine already and I've only had it for 2 months.
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:35 AM   #8
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20k miles is probably about the average life of a sport bike. This is due to them being totaled so quickly. If you take care of the bike it should last 70-100k miles.
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:48 AM   #9
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30,430 miles here.
bought it w/ 900 miles about 3 years ago. I ride the shit out my gixxer but aslong as you believe in a strict maintence routine you'll be fine.
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:24 AM   #10
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My 90 ZX7 has 112000 km on it. Still runs awesome. Id be choked if my K7 was done after 20-30000km. i already have a little over 6000km....faaack 1/3 of the way finished..i think not.
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:29 AM   #11
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sold my k1 1k some months ago with about 16k on it, and still running beautifully.
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:38 AM   #12
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One of the motorcycle magazines did a test on a CBR a couple years ago, running it over 100,000 miles, and then tearing the engine down. They found no noticeable wear in the engine.

As mentioned, maintenance and certain riding habits have more of an effect on engine life than mileage. An ill-maintained engine that has been abused by applying too much power on a cold engine, or spending a lot of time at redline won't last long. As long as the oil is changed properly, and the engine is warmed up, these bikes can take some pretty hard riding and still last a long time.
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:45 AM   #13
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It all depends on how much care you put in to it. Maintenance, no crashes, less stunting. I have a 04 750 with over 25,000 miles, that from day one I abused it like a red headed sl*t (changed oil meticulously). Over the winter I had the motor check and the only thing worn on the engine was the piston rings. CCT was good, no metal shavings, gaskets good, compression, timing on the valves was good. Even the spark plugs was still looking good. These bikes will last a long time if the rider cares properly for them.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:16 AM   #14
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You have all been very informative thank you! With any luck ill soon have a new bike and a pic to post!
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:19 AM   #15
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If a GSXR is only good for 20k I am going to unplug the speedometer so I won't know when I hit that mark.



So if it doesnt hit 20,000 it will run forever!
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:21 AM   #16
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I say just like the bike and have fun.
Riding bikes is an expensive hobby.
You always have to buy something or do something.
I am going to ride my bike until I am tired of that one, or it just cost to much to get it fixed vs. buying a new one.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:49 AM   #17
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My bike's an 05 and just short of 20k...running stronger than ever.

And no...Mod's to a used bike will not make the cost go up! It's basically a lost to the owner when having mods done.
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:26 PM   #18
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i put 47000 miles on a 93 GSXR1100 b 4 it died... my bike now is going strong still & i rape that bitch every day...we have a love hate thing... 3 clutches, 1 valve adjustment an oil change & filter every other month " stock oil " ..... i know it says over 40000k but its actually 38794 today but i had my gauges disconnected 4 a month....... bikes last until they die or r killed
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:11 PM   #19
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30k miles and still running strong. 20k limit is bullshit
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:19 PM   #20
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the bikes go as long as you maintain them. 100K miles isnt a big deal if it was maintained religiously.

Non-sportbike related but a 80's bmw I saw the other day had 240,000 miles. But then again, its a BMW.
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:28 PM   #21
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as long as ya keep feeding it fresh oil 100k would be no bother. the gsxr engine is the best out there. most jap bike are the same. but if ya ride her hard you can half that milage. I rarely heard of a gix engine blowing even on the track. well machined and desiged engine indeed
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I met a biker a few weeks ago, he had a 93 Harley Cruiser w/ 240k on her
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Old 06-14-2007, 07:50 AM   #23
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I have heard many different figures. I hear people saying that gsx-r's reach their (100k miles car equivilent) at about 20,000 miles. In other words, that a gsx-r is only good until around 20,000 miles. Is there truth to this? Ive seen bikes like these listed with way over 20k miles on them...The bike im looking to buy has 3900 miles and its got mods, so its more costly. I just want to be informed before i make a decision. Thank you kindly!
As a general rule the 600's won't last as long as a 1000. A 600 lives a busy life in the upper rpm range. Most 600's are getting weak in the valve train area by 40,000 miles. I've seen 80,000 coaxed out of a 600 but it was with religious valve adjustments and oil changes. And wheelies can change all the rules. Certain bikes tollerate them better than others. Wheelies combined with a low oil level are real bad. A 1000 can see 100,000 miles but it's pretty spent by then.
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:29 AM   #24
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Either way it goes.... If you are keeping the bike for a long period of time, you're going to have to do maintence just like anything that has wheels & a seat.

Me I don't plan on keeping the same bike past 3-4 years... thats just me, I'll trade my 05 in about a year or 2 and get something else.....
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:19 AM   #25
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I've done about 40+ trackdays and a couple race weekends on my street bike so I'd say my bike would qualify as riding it like it was meant to be. The bike still runs, idles, and delivers power smoothly with just under 40,000 miles.
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Ok, here's my opinion....who cares. Suzuki's last a long time, but if something does screw up after 20,000 miles just rebuild it with aftermarket performance parts. If you have a 600 and it screws up you can buy complete motors on ebay for under $900 with relatively low miles.

Modern Nikasil plated cylinders are strong and take a really long time to wear. If some how the cylinder gets our of round, bore it over. If things like valve springs, valves, cams, rings, etc. wear out you can replace them cheap enough. Our moto here is if the rod doesn't go through the case then you can fix it.
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Old 06-23-2007, 12:02 PM   #27
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Say you are in the upper mileage range for your cc size, what would be the first thing to go out relating to the engine? How is this experienced while riding?
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n my experiences it is usually something transmission related , like second gear
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Old 06-23-2007, 12:27 PM   #29
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I'm at 18k on my k2 600 and I plan on putting many many more miles
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Modern Nikasil plated cylinders are strong and take a really long time to wear. If some how the cylinder gets our of round, bore it over.
This is very true - but, if you do have to bore out a cylinder, you have to replace the coating, which requires a specialized shop.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:58 PM   #31
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i got an 05 600 that is 100 miles short of 20,000 miles and it still runs strong also been ridden in tha winter months 10 degree weather....
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Old 06-28-2007, 02:38 AM   #32
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My, little Kawa ZZR250 had 97,000 ks (~60,000 miles) on it when i got crashed into by a car, but it was fine engine wise, now the GSXR 600 i own has about 57,000 ks onit (~36,000miles) and that thing is far from kicking the bucket yet!

In my experience, mileage is relative, a bike that has been raped (i.e. track bikes or street racing bikes) can have low k's but the engine is shot whereas bikes which have high k's and have been ridden by passive riders can live forever (almost).
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I guess the real question is, would anyone buy a bike with 20k on the clock? I know I wouldn't lol.
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I guess the real question is, would anyone buy a bike with 20k on the clock? I know I wouldn't lol.
If it made it to 20,000 and it runs good, chances are it's better than the 2,000 mile bike someone is trying to dump because they thrashed it.

Also, a ten year old bike with only 2,000 miles on it sat months, if not years at a time, and that's much worse for the engine than running it, if long term storage methods haven't been used.
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If it made it to 20,000 and it runs good, chances are it's better than the 2,000 mile bike someone is trying to dump because they thrashed it.

Also, a ten year old bike with only 2,000 miles on it sat months, if not years at a time, and that's much worse for the engine than running it, if long term storage methods haven't been used.
Damn good point.
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I bought my bike with 50,000ks on it (31,000miles). No regrets yet.
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had over 30,000 miles on my 05 600 that i bought with 0 miles. i was doing my valves when i broke a tab off the cam shaft journal that the valve cover bolts onto. the part is only sold as a whole head for 800. only reason i bought a 750 motor for it.
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shoot im at 21,000 now and i can still smoke '07 R6s
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Old 07-01-2007, 09:36 AM   #39
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The problem is more the age of the bike than it's engine mileage.

These engines can run forever. You might just notice a SLIGHT decrease in performance but that's it.

As for the rest of the bike (other components) ... that's where the troubles begin.

On an older bike,

- Everything that's rubber will start to crack from sun/cold/heat/etc. So you end up with
- Leaky radiator pipes,
- Leaky fuel conducts.
- Shorts in the electrical,
- Wirecables (clutch, gaz, choke) that have not been lubed and are sticking,
- Loose head bearing,
- The regulator will sometime burn,
- Fork seals will give,
- Seat leather/vinyl will crack, ...
- Battery will die
- etc

But all that is replaceable/repairable.... As for the engine (which is all metal)... I really don't know how long it can run...

My GUESS is that a motorcycle engine+frame can run decently for SEVERAL 100,000 miles...if you maintain/replace the rest of the bike's components.

The call to "kill" a bike comes when the cost to maintain it is too much vs it's market value (obviously, does not happen to vintage bikes which did not get trashed and are now worth $$$ and climbing as they get older).

I just disassembled my VFR750 1990 (60,000) cause it had a leaky valve...
Replaced the valve guide and had the valve seats machined... The bike runs like new... and all the other internal engine parts looked very good (connecting rod, piston crown, even the rings).
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