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Old 08-21-2009, 05:43 PM   #1
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Hello, I've been riding streetbikes for a little over a year now. I bought a used 04 gsxr600. I've heard the 750's aren't much different than 600's so im not really interested in one, and i really have been considering an 09 1000. I've never rode a 1000 and was wondering if it would be really stupid for me to get one? I can ride pretty good i think but is a 1000 gonna completely beat the shit outta me or can i handle it?
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Hello, I've been riding streetbikes for a little over a year now. I bought a used 04 gsxr600. I've heard the 750's aren't much different than 600's so im not really interested in one, and i really have been considering an 09 1000. I've never rode a 1000 and was wondering if it would be really stupid for me to get one? I can ride pretty good i think but is a 1000 gonna completely beat the shit outta me or can i handle it?
First off a 750 has a considerable amount more power than a 600. And if your worried that you wont be able to handle the 1000 i would stay away. your prob. right. good luck!
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I've heard the 750's aren't much different than 600's so im not really interested in one
That you should find out for yourself. Yes I'm biased but there's a reason for that.
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Been on a 750 for over 2 years and have yet to reach its full potential on street/track. You sure you've "outgrown" the 600??
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I have a k8 750 and love the power it seems like alot more than my 600.. Iv road 1000s but There not for my 135 pounds they seem heavy to me
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Been on a 750 for over 2 years and have yet to reach its full potential on street/track. You sure you've "outgrown" the 600??
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I say do it. I went from a 6 to a 1K and I'll never go back. your never gonna reach the full potential of any bike, so dont base your choice off of that. If you did, youd still be on a big wheel. If you respect it, youll do fine. Just take it slow.
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I also went from a 6 to a 1, however i feel more comfortable with the 1000, maybe `cause i`m 6`2 almost 200lbs, however there`s definetly a power increase(duh)..anyway if you get the 1000 take your time like you did with your 600.
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lots of ppl go on about oh its got to much power all the usual.
well I ride k7600 and would say I am more than competent have been riding bikes since I was 6 yrs old and am 31 now. One thing I can say is they do go slow to.
Go for it man just take your time get used to the extra power before you try to choke the life out of it.
Obviously your aware it is a step up and it is a bit different to ride or you would not be asking questions. So that being the case the respect for the big power is in the back of your mind all ready.
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Just for asking, you need to take a step back and get a 500 to re-evaluate yourself.
This question comes up more frequently than I can count. The only one that is gonna know if you are ready is you! For all we know, maybe you dont even ride, or would you like some ranch dressing to go with those chicken strips...I can do this all day. But you need to evaluate yourself, realize your potential or lack of, then do what ever you think is the right decision.
I can go on for days about upgrading to bigger bikes, but I don't know anything about how you ride. There is how good you ride to how good you think you can ride and what everyone else that sees you opinion.

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thanks for the replys, i was just asking becuase i wanted to make sure it would be a good choice since i've never ridden one. My 600 is fun but there are times i would like a bit more power. I ride pretty aggresively but I focus on saftey even more so. I just didn't want to get a 750 and it be just "a little bit" better than a 600 and then want a 1000 in another year of owning the 750. As for the weight of the 1000, im pretty sure i can handle it cuz my 04 600 prob weighs more than a newer 1k. thanks again guys
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i bought my k1 600 brand new and bought my k6 1000 the same way and i can tell ya that respect the power mainly coming out of turns that ass end gets loose in a hurry if your not on throttle control but the 1000 is alotta fun to ride on the street but i prefer my 600 at the track anyday
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Save yourself time and headaches down the road and go with the 1k
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How bout you go ride a 750 and then 1000 and see what you think before jumping into something you might not like just my .02
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How bout you go ride a 750 and then 1000 and see what you think before jumping into something you might not like just my .02


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I think the 750 is the best bike for the street. The thou is just to much IMO opinion, I have plenty of power, my bike turns better, and i don't have to worry about too much gas on the exits.
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ok, can i just go to any dealership and say, "hey can i test drive a gsxr1k?"
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ok, can i just go to any dealership and say, "hey can i test drive a gsxr1k?"

Depends on if the dealer has a 750 demo bike and a 1k demo bike or they mgt let u test drive a used one or ask one your boys to ride theres
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Honestly, I had this same question pop up in my head. So i talked to a guy who has been riding for 20-30yrs and he told me this "It is all about throttle control. You can get a 250, 500, 600, 1k 1.1k etc... and hurt yourself no matter what but what it boils down to is a flick of your wrist. It's all about being smart and not stupid".
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well, i think i'm gonna atleast wait until next year and i'm gonna try to test drive a 1k and a 750. I've been giving this alot of thought and the new 091ks dont have many options for a slip ons let alone full exausts. Maybe i'll wait for the 2010's to come out and either get a '10 or get a left over 09. thanks for the help guys
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:41 PM   #20
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I think the 750 is the best bike for the street. The thou is just to much IMO opinion, I have plenty of power, my bike turns better, and i don't have to worry about too much gas on the exits.
i disagree...I think a 1000 is better suited for the street, and the smaller 600/750 for the track. On the street, you arent worried much about exiting turns....and being that high in the powerband, but on the racetrack the 1000 is a beast.

On the street the 1000 is smoother. Its lower RPM and power everywhere...which means its not picky on the gear youre in.
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i disagree...I think a 1000 is better suited for the street, and the smaller 600/750 for the track. On the street, you arent worried much about exiting turns....and being that high in the powerband, but on the racetrack the 1000 is a beast.

On the street the 1000 is smoother. Its lower RPM and power everywhere...which means its not picky on the gear youre in.
How can u say the 1k is better for the street? You have all that power and what are you going to do with it? hell im gonna get a busa but im gonna keep my 600 i think you can do and have a lot more fun on a 600 and 750 vs the bigger bikes but hey thats just me to each his own
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Old 08-23-2009, 08:34 PM   #22
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I like a litre bike so I can ride the twisties in 3rd gear and not change gears. I can keep up with my friends and not work myself to death or stay on the rev limiter.
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:44 AM   #23
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I'm a new rider, i've only just passed my test 3 months ago and i've been riding my k6 1000 2 months now....i'm still here

Seriously though if you've been riding a 600 for a year you've already got the road sense. I've only ever ridden a 1000 so i can't tell you what the power is compared to 600. I heard it's a big jump. For example if you want to wheelie a 600 you'll have to clutch it up, with a 1000 say for example in 2nd, the bike's natural torque band at 11k will make the bike lift at 110mph(no clutch), so there's a big difference. I will be honest, i did nearly come off last week. i was going up a mountain road and at the top there was a ramp in the road about the size of a speed hump. I didn't see it as i was going up hill. To cut a long story short, my throttle hand twitched as i hit it and both wheels were off the ground in the wheelie position. I screamed in my helmet lol. Now if i'd been on a 600 it wouldn't have been such a disaster.
A 1000 WILL bite you in the ass if you get it wrong, it's such an unforgiving bike and i cannot understate that enough. That said, it's fun just take it easy because at the end of the day it's a bike and you are in control. That's what i said to myself when getting the thou for my first bike.

I wouldn't be too nervous of the 1000 just take it easy out of corners and don't get on the bike with a point to prove cos you'll lose every time, just respect the bike and you'll be fine mate.
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I'm a new rider, i've only just passed my test 3 months ago and i've been riding my k6 1000 2 months now....i'm still here

Seriously though if you've been riding a 600 for a year you've already got the road sense. I've only ever ridden a 1000 so i can't tell you what the power is compared to 600. I heard it's a big jump. For example if you want to wheelie a 600 you'll have to clutch it up, with a 1000 say for example in 2nd, the bike's natural torque band at 11k will make the bike lift at 110mph(no clutch), so there's a big difference. I will be honest, i did nearly come off last week. i was going up a mountain road and at the top there was a ramp in the road about the size of a speed hump. I didn't see it as i was going up hill. To cut a long story short, my throttle hand twitched as i hit it and both wheels were off the ground in the wheelie position. I screamed in my helmet lol. Now if i'd been on a 600 it wouldn't have been such a disaster.
A 1000 WILL bite you in the ass if you get it wrong, it's such an unforgiving bike and i cannot understate that enough. That said, it's fun just take it easy because at the end of the day it's a bike and you are in control. That's what i said to myself when getting the thou for my first bike.

I wouldn't be too nervous of the 1000 just take it easy out of corners and don't get on the bike with a point to prove cos you'll lose every time, just respect the bike and you'll be fine mate.
Two months of riding and this happened? Quite a scare I bet
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I am going to have to side with the guys voting for a liter bike. I had a 600 and got bored with it within a year. I was constantly pushing that thing as hard as it could go and still getting beat down by 750's and 1000's, so i upgraded. I got an 07 1000 and after 3 weeks dumped it. Needless to say, it was a lot more power than i was use to BUT i didn't dump it doing something stupid, i dumped it because i wasn't use to the throttle and the rear tire started sliding. After the crash i never even thought about getting a less powerful bike, i wanted to learn how to ride that bike, so i got another one. Now it's been a year and a half and i've got the throttle control down pat. I'll personally never ride a 600 or even a 750 unless i'm bringing it home for someone. I love the power of the 1000 and i have to agree that it will be more dangerous at first but once you know how to use it you'll enjoy it more. To top it all off, i doubt you'll ever want or need more power.

Point of this post is get a 1000 and be careful until you know how the bike will react. It can and will get away from you very quickly and it'll throw you around before you realize what's going on.

Now i'm only 150lbs and i can man handle my 1000, that's been lowered 2 inches, and keep up with the 750 guys(and some 600's) in the twisties, so nobody can tell me it can't handle. I say go for it and take your time learning.
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i think it all depends on what ur looking for. yes a 1k has a whole lot more power, but do u need it? i was just sick of getting left when i rode with friends on 1ks
plus theres always the option of a motor swap...
if u just want a new bike, id say go with the 1k, ull learn it over again, and b happy with it in the long run
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i disagree...I think a 1000 is better suited for the street, and the smaller 600/750 for the track. On the street, you arent worried much about exiting turns....and being that high in the powerband, but on the racetrack the 1000 is a beast.

On the street the 1000 is smoother. Its lower RPM and power everywhere...which means its not picky on the gear youre in.
I agree, everyone who rides the track usually thinks this, the 1000 is too hard to keep the front wheel down and keep it smooth coming out of corners, so a 600 is usually preferred and most guys ride 600s on the track. However the 1000 is great for the street because of power on the highway and such. you can still accelerate nicely even if your not in high RPMs and while already traveling fast.
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This is purely my opinion and some facts.

I would say that the 750 is the best of both worlds. I for one have ridden a 600, 750, and I own a k6 1k. The 1K has ridiculous power that you will never use on the street. I don't care what anyone says. There is no way you can use all that power. The best place for a 1000 is on the highway that is where it is happy and that is where the bike shines!! But, even then unless you have a complete disregard for your life and do not respect the bike you cannot open that bike up all the way. I speak from experience. I've done 175mph on it and it still had power on tap. You can corner at 145mph+ with it if you like. But make one tiny mistake and you are on your ass. It is a MUCH LESS forgivable bike that a 600 or 750. Even going from a 750 to a 1000 is a big difference.
The reason I have a 1k over a 750 is because I got a ridiculous deal on it. Now don't get me wrong it is tons of fun (power on tap) but you have to be discipline and careful with that power. A 600 is a fast bike in itself I really doubt you have outgrown that 600 in one year. Be careful, the worst thing you can do is get a bigger bike just to catch up with your friends. Plus if there are good friends they should ride according to your skill so you can learn at your pace. You should have fun when you ride and to tell you the truth, sometimes I wish I had a 750. Sometimes I can't even get out of 1st gear on the 1k.

If you can and haven't done so try to do the following. Take the MSF BRC and ERC courses. Then do some track days. You'll will be surprise how much you learn in one day of track. More that you can learn in a season of riding and while you're add it pick up a book called "A Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code.

I have taken both the BRC and the ERC and have done some track. It takes 5 years to be an experience rider. 5 YEARS! I consider myself a skilled rider but by no means I have
mastered motorcycle riding (3 years riding) and I've put close to 12,000 miles of riding this season and I'm not done. That includes street riding, short club runs, long runs (ocean city, MD), and track. Never stop learning or trying to improve yourself and never disrespect a bike no matter if its a 600, 750 or 1000.

Sorry for the long response. I hope this was somewhat helpful.

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Old 10-04-2009, 06:24 PM   #29
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just go with the 1000 and take it easy for a little while... You wont be disappointed with the 1000 thats for sure!
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i also went from a 600 to 1000 and as far as the street goes i'll never go back to anything smaller... i had a 636 for the track and that i loved but i wont go back to 6's for the street..
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This is purely my opinion and some facts.

I would say that the 750 is the best of both worlds. I for one have ridden a 600, 750, and I own a k6 1k. The 1K has ridiculous power that you will never use on the street. I don't care what anyone says. There is no way you can use all that power. The best place for a 1000 is on the highway that is where it is happy and that is where the bike shines!! But, even then unless you have a complete disregard for your life and do not respect the bike you cannot open that bike up all the way. I speak from experience. I've done 175mph on it and it still had power on tap. You can corner at 145mph+ with it if you like. But make one tiny mistake and you are on your ass. It is a MUCH LESS forgivable bike that a 600 or 750. Even going from a 750 to a 1000 is a big difference.
The reason I have a 1k over a 750 is because I got a ridiculous deal on it. Now don't get me wrong it is tons of fun (power on tap) but you have to be discipline and careful with that power. A 600 is a fast bike in itself I really doubt you have outgrown that 600 in one year. Be careful, the worst thing you can do is get a bigger bike just to catch up with your friends. Plus if there are good friends they should ride according to your skill so you can learn at your pace. You should have fun when you ride and to tell you the truth, sometimes I wish I had a 750. Sometimes I can't even get out of 1st gear on the 1k.

If you can and haven't done so try to do the following. Take the MSF BRC and ERC courses. Then do some track days. You'll will be surprise how much you learn in one day of track. More that you can learn in a season of riding and while you're add it pick up a book called "A Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code.

I have taken both the BRC and the ERC and have done some track. It takes 5 years to be an experience rider. 5 YEARS! I consider myself a skilled rider but by no means I have
mastered motorcycle riding (3 years riding) and I've put close to 12,000 miles of riding this season and I'm not done. That includes street riding, short club runs, long runs (ocean city, MD), and track. Never stop learning or trying to improve yourself and never disrespect a bike no matter if its a 600, 750 or 1000.

Sorry for the long response. I hope this was somewhat helpful.

Best of luck with your decision.
I'm not gonna multi quote this, cause there is many good point in it.......So I will just go with this
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I would encourage you to keep the 600 for another year or two. 1 year of riding experience is really not much. However, if you really want a 1000, then nothing I say is going to change your mind.
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I am going to have to side with the guys voting for a liter bike. I had a 600 and got bored with it within a year. I was constantly pushing that thing as hard as it could go and still getting beat down by 750's and 1000's, so i upgraded. I got an 07 1000 and after 3 weeks dumped it.
You think you were pushing it. That probably has more to do with your lack of skill than the bikes capabilities. I can keep up with most of my friends on my wife's EX250 and still have a blast.

You'll get bored with yourself before you get bored with the bike.

P.S. Get whatever you want, you're going to do that anyway. To hell with what everybody else says. It's your insurance, bike payment, coffin, etc.
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I I had a 600 and got bored with it within a year. I was constantly pushing that thing as hard as it could go and still getting beat down by 750's and 1000's, so i upgraded.
Where were you getting beat? Going down the highway in a straight line or in the twisties?
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i have a 07 600 and im moving up to a 1000 real soon, ive ridin 1000s before and im sure i can handle it
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I've been thinking about doing the same move but idk yet. I havent ridden a 1k yet. Im going to see if m boy lets me borrow his.
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After 1 year there is no way that you have outgrown a GSXR 600 unless you are a complete track whore, and like others have said most guys that do tons of track days prefer 600s anyway.

When newer riders start on a supersport bike they rely on the amazing abilities of the bike, and they never properly develop their own riding skills. Then after a year of riding they think they are ready for a bigger bike because they can open the 600 completely up in a straight line. I'm here to tell you that opening a bike up in a straight line is not a big deal, and it doesn't mean you know how to ride and you're ready for a bigger bike.

I bet the guy that was talking about keeping up with people on a 250 could roast you on a good road becuase of his riding skill. Your 600 will do way more than you or most anyone else could make it do on the street, and thinking that you need more after only a year shows that you are not actually ready.

I'm 29, and I've been on bikes since my 4th birthday, and had streetbikes since my 21st birthday. Between a Yamaha YZF600R and a Buell Firebolt XB12R I've ridden around 30,000 miles and I just bought my first "real" litre bike last Wednesday. I've been able to ride it only a couple times because it has been cold and rainy, but when I rode it yesterday I was able to play a little, and I can tell you that my 06 1k is an absolute monster. The thing about one of these bikes is that it is going to do exactly what you tell it to do when it comes to acceleration, braking and turning, and after only a year there is no way you are not going to tell it to do the wrong thing at some point and end up in trouble.

To the guy that started on a 1k, man you are nuts. I hope that you have taken some motorcycle safety courses or something to help you learn how to ride. You will probably never be a "good" rider because you will always have way more bike than you need. It would probably be cheaper for you to go out and buy a 600 from the early 2000s to learn on for a while and then sell than it is going to be to fix that 1k and your body after you twist yourself up..... Everyone who rides motorcycles crashes sooner or later, and you have set yourself up for something nasty.....
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:15 AM   #38
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Just go ahead get 1k. You are grown and you had more enough advice on the power so you know what you are getting into. Good Luck. By the way I got a 2007 1k and love it to death
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Old 10-10-2009, 03:54 PM   #39
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750 for the track, but the Busa is the best street bike.
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