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Old 08-02-2011, 07:12 PM   #1
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Default 04 1K Clutch Cush Mod How To.

Posting this Mod in the drag race section because it is specific to the sport...

First vid is how to swap a stock clutch in case you missed it...

The second vid is how to install a Brocks Cush Mod on my 2004 Gsxr 1000....

Clutch Swap - Start to finish...

Cush Mod install starting with an empty basket... Includes cable adjustment...
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Bus,

Thanks for sharing all this cool info on K3/K4 maintenance.
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Old 08-03-2011, 05:41 AM   #3
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Thanks Cali, I can remember when I was lookin for info like this, took me months researching and staring at parts before I got a handle on it.

If the populus finds these vids helpful I may endeavor to cover a few more topics that I feel proficient at. If someone has a request post it up and I'll see what I can do....
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Old 08-03-2011, 11:27 AM   #4
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Another great job did it help your 60ft times.?
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Another great job did it help your 60ft times.?
Yes it is an improvement, broke into the 1.50s a few times with 1.60s being the norm, clutch seems to work more consistently...

I was going through spells of that buckin crap (with the stock set-up) and believe me you that has got to be hard on parts... This mod was the recommended solution from a few different sources so I tried it...

I could still ride the bike more efficiently (clutch work especially) but I lose my freakin mind once I smell smoke...

Ultimately this is a crutch to try an make a clutch do something it wasn't designed to do... There are much better options, at a price of course, but they compromise streetability and until I decide to make it track only that's what I get....
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Yes it is an improvement, broke into the 1.50s a few times with 1.60s being the norm, clutch seems to work more consistently...

I was going through spells of that buckin crap (with the stock set-up) and believe me you that has got to be hard on parts... This mod was the recommended solution from a few different sources so I tried it...

I could still ride the bike more efficiently (clutch work especially) but I lose my freakin mind once I smell smoke...

Ultimately this is a crutch to try an make a clutch do something it wasn't designed to do... There are much better options, at a price of course, but they compromise streetability and until I decide to make it track only that's what I get....
You should make cd's and sell them on the web your confidence of your ability's and passion for the machine and the sport really show through in your vids.One thing I noticed was your thumb wheel seemed to be adjusted out a bit far I like mine only a few turns out and make the adjustment at the other end of cable to keep it in closer.Probably just preference but it makes it more precise as the adjuster slightly moves when turned to far out and the lever is pulled.I suppose if at the track you are wearing the clutch faster and would just keep adjusting at the wheel for convenience.
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:39 PM   #7
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Thanks OIF...

You're right about the adjuster it's very close on the lower adjustment per Brocks instructions. They also want you to monitor the thumbwheel up top after every pass.

This doesn't necessarily mean you have to make an adjustment every pass, you just want to keep an eye on it....
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:31 PM   #8
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Thanks OIF...

You're right about the adjuster it's very close on the lower adjustment per Brocks instructions. They also want you to monitor the thumbwheel up top after every pass.

This doesn't necessarily mean you have to make an adjustment every pass, you just want to keep an eye on it....
Man, I need your kinda job... lotsa spare time!
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Man, I need your kinda job... lotsa spare time!
Lets just say it was a bit slow at work that day... .. I actually had the clutch in and out 3 times checking different stack heights and taking notes.

I had been to the track the nite before and still had my camera stuff so I shot some video and this is how it worked out....

So EW have you gotten any track time lately?....
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:26 PM   #10
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Not much time to play, always racing so no quick ETs. I seem to have picked up about 2 tenths while using my race launch... so I guess I picked up a little.
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Not much time to play, always racing so no quick ETs. I seem to have picked up about 2 tenths while using my race launch... so I guess I picked up a little.
Race Launch?.... I must have one..... What the heck is it?... I wanna pick up 2 tenths!.....
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:41 PM   #12
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Well.. its a highly technical process of not leaving set on "Kill" , just kinda leaving a little harder than a stop light (ET race launch). Now set on "Kill" the bike will wheelie and shit but I tend to go a little quicker. Sooo.. leaving like I'm racing and not playing has netted about 1.5 - 2 tenth ET wise, since the winter upgrades. I have not had a chance to go out and try the Kill setting yet Trying to catch the points leader, I'm in third now. SWB is not helping my consistancy.
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Well.. its a highly technical process of not leaving set on "Kill" , just kinda leaving a little harder than a stop light (ET race launch). Now set on "Kill" the bike will wheelie and shit but I tend to go a little quicker. Sooo.. leaving like I'm racing and not playing has netted about 1.5 - 2 tenth ET wise, since the winter upgrades. I have not had a chance to go out and try the Kill setting yet Trying to catch the points leader, I'm in third now. SWB is not helping my consistancy.
Makes since but I have nooooo restraint... The smell of burning rubber set's me on kill every time...... That's why I shoot so much vid otherwise I wouldn't know what happened from the water box to the stripe.......
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:12 PM   #14
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would this be the same way for my 06? and does it effect streetability?
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would this be the same way for my 06? and does it effect streetability?
The clutch mod for an 06' is a bit different as far as the hardware that you install but the procedure will be similar.

As far as street-ability under normal riding/commuting it should be a non-issue.

If you are a twisty lover it could have some undesired effects charging into a corner as it alters the back torque limiter characteristics.

Overall I don't think you'll be disappointed as it will extend the clutch life and performance at the strip.....
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:47 AM   #16
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ok thanks... also talkin to a few ppl i heard some say that the gsxr plate where good.. but use brocks springs..
whats ur opinion? or is it just better to order the brocks one?
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ok thanks... also talkin to a few ppl i heard some say that the gsxr plate where good.. but use brocks springs..
whats ur opinion? or is it just better to order the brocks one?
Not sure what you mean by "gsxr plate" exactly?...

Personally I would just get the clutch mod as it comes with the springs and has a lifetime warranty...
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:16 AM   #18
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Very nice video!! I love those blue/white K4 1000. ITs so sexy looking!!
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Old 12-09-2011, 03:40 AM   #19
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gsxr plate... mean the OEM.. factory ones.. with the brocks springs.
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gsxr plate... mean the OEM.. factory ones.. with the brocks springs.
OEM fibers and steels will work fine... I use a clutch pack from Cycle Concepts called a "drag pack" and love em....
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Great info and videos!
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def used this video... didn't realize it was the one from youtube.. last nite was using it!! thanks bro!!
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def used this video... didn't realize it was the one from youtube.. last nite was using it!! thanks bro!!
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Hey guys I am replacing my clutch plates and fiber..

The smooth side of the steel plates faces inward or outward towards you?

The clutch fiber has little numbers written on it. Do they faces inward or out towards u?

The Clutch Washer ring- the curved part faces inward or out towards you?
http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/...GSXR600/CLUTCH #14 is what im talking about.

All the clutch fibers goes in the same way til the last one goes in the middle of all the others? Right? This is on K5 600.. what the manual says. OR just I put the last clutch fiber like the other clutch fibers?

I hope someone understands my question.
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Hey guys I am replacing my clutch plates and fiber..

The smooth side of the steel plates faces inward or outward towards you?

The clutch fiber has little numbers written on it. Do they faces inward or out towards u?

The Clutch Washer ring- the curved part faces inward or out towards you?
http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/...GSXR600/CLUTCH #14 is what im talking about.

All the clutch fibers goes in the same way til the last one goes in the middle of all the others? Right? This is on K5 600.. what the manual says. OR just I put the last clutch fiber like the other clutch fibers?

I hope someone understands my question.
Let me clarify that the clutch set-ups that I am most familiar with are the zuk liter bikes... The procedures I demonstrate in the video are specific to the 04' 1K, that doesn't mean that they don't apply to other model/years.

Basically I am saying that although the video was meant to be helpful you must reference a service manual for your specific year, make and model. The info you are looking for should be in there with pictures and specs, they are a wonderful tool.

All that being said get a service manual read up on the clutch info that is in there... Use the videos to help you understand what your looking at and you will be a better gear head for it...

Some of your questions are a bit confusing so I would be willing to hash them out over the phone if you pm your number.... Good luck...
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Let me clarify that the clutch set-ups that I am most familiar with are the zuk liter bikes... The procedures I demonstrate in the video are specific to the 04' 1K, that doesn't mean that they don't apply to other model/years.

Basically I am saying that although the video was meant to be helpful you must reference a service manual for your specific year, make and model. The info you are looking for should be in there with pictures and specs, they are a wonderful tool.

All that being said get a service manual read up on the clutch info that is in there... Use the videos to help you understand what your looking at and you will be a better gear head for it...

Some of your questions are a bit confusing so I would be willing to hash them out over the phone if you pm your number.... Good luck...
I got a service manual!! Ive been looking at it

The thing i dont wanna get backwards is the Clutch washer.

The one I shown in the pic in that link i provided in the first post..

I took a pic of it.. IF you take the clutch washer and put it on the table, you have the side that curves is facing up. It has a lil white marking on it.. Do i face that little white marking into the bike or have it facing towards me when i slide it on?
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The piece you just picked up at 3:00... How does that go on??

Around 3:15-3:30 Thats the piece im talking about.

the bowl faces out?
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Ok, Take the spring washer and lay it on a flat surface one way it will make a bowl the other way it will make a dome... If it is like the 04 1k then place it in the basket with the bottom of your imaginary bowl in toward the motor....

Start watching the video I am linking at the 14 minute mark and I go over it... I believe I reference it again later in the video... DO NOT go by the cush mod video as it is the opposite orientation...


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You aren't installing a clutch mod are you?.... Just freshening up the clutch right?
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You aren't installing a clutch mod are you?.... Just freshening up the clutch right?
Yes. no clutch mod.. just freshing up... When i lay it flat and When i put it in. I put the white marking facing inward

When i lay it like a dome the marking in on top. So I had the white marking you see in the pic going in toward the motor.

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Yes. no clutch mod.. just freshing up... When i lay it flat and When i put it in. I put the white marking facing inward

When i lay it like a dome the marking in on top. So I had the white marking you see in the pic going in toward the motor.

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Cool, glad you got it handled.....
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you said towards the end, that the basket will protrude further with the new thicker friction plates, and that you need to adjust the center thing on the other side, can you clarify what you mean?
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I can see why that might be confusing... Good eye/ear tho...

The clutch I removed had an extra steel in it for drag racing purposes. This increased (taller) the overall height of the clutch pack so with that steel removed decreasing (shorter) the stack height it caused the lower pusher rod adjustment to be out too far... Hope that makes sense...

You should always re-adjust the pusher rod/cable assembly when you replace or even work on the clutch just to be sure it is within spec....

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