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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-19-2019, 11:21 PM Thread Starter
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I'm not sure where to start....

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I'm new to this site and working on bikes in general, so bare with me. I'm up here in Roanoke va and I havent ridden in 10 yrs nevertheless worked on any bikes but I can wrench on cars all day so I have a slight understanding. I just bought a 97 gsxr 600 from a guy who didnt take real good care of it. The only thing he knew his to do with it is ruin the rubber on the back tire. He let it sit for about a yr with no battery tinder. So the battery is gone. When I got it to my garage I drained the fuel tank and cleaned it out and drained the lines. I went to the store got some 93 and seafoam and threw that in the tank. Hooked it up to the jump box and tried to start it a few times with no luck. The next morning after a few other steps I sprayed some carb cleaner ( not eather) in the carbs and got it to start but it ran rough like expected and as soon as I took the jump box off the lights dimmed and the dash flickered on and off then eventually dieing all together...after doing the same a couple more times I eventually got it sounding a little healthier and idling at about 2000 before bogging out and stalling. I purchased a new battery today and tomorrow I will install it to see what it does. I'm assuming my next step would be cleaning and rebuilding the carbs. I think that because when I took out the coil packs and plugs one cylinder in particular had a decent amount of moisture (water) in it and the coil pack had mold on the bottom of it even. I tried to start it with the coil pacs off to see if I could blow the moisture out it sprayed like crazy and eventually went away. So is this cause for alarm and where else do I start? I believe the r/r is good as well as the stator because I checked the voltage. Is it possible that the battery is so dead that it would cause it to shut down? Thanks guys
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-20-2019, 12:30 AM
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Put the battery in and let us know what happens.
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post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-20-2019, 04:44 AM
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Yes. The charging system is very weak at idle.
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post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-20-2019, 08:52 AM
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I would get that new battery in it, and see how she runs with some new sparkers. Your story about how much moisture came out of one of the cylinders doesn't sound too promising. Was it stored outside before you got it? Check all fluid levels, especially the coolant level. If all seems good, I would run the Seafoam through it for a while, and see if it clears up. A years of sitting shouldn't clog it up too bad. That is of course IF it only sat around for a year. Also have to worry about WHY it sat for a year... Good luck, and keep us posted...

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Thanks guys quick update I'm at work so I havent had much time to play with it much. I installed the new battery and tried to start it. It at least doesn't have any electrical issues but when I tried to start it it didnt want to start when it would turn over and ignite it wouldn't idle and would stall out. I'm going to the store tonight to get some carb cleaner to see what it does when I try to start it with that. As far as it sitting I'm not sure what to believe when the guy had it he said swapped the motor for another 600 and rode it for a couple months then his wife made him stop and try to sell it...the kid dogged the crap out of the back tire I know that much but it's a 500 dollar find so I'm expecting issues lol

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post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-20-2019, 03:46 PM
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Yeah, a new battery is in order, you aren't charging at idle. Starting it and running it for a bit was good cause it likely pulled some seafoam into the carbs where it can do it's magic. Fingers crossed it will sputter for a bit them even out after an over night soak. You still likely want to go through those carbs and sort them once the rest of the mechanical stuff proves out.

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So I do need to let is soak? And once I take the carbs apart how do I need to set the mixture screws?
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What he's saying is, Leave the carbs in it for the moment. You said you can get it to start now? Just won't idle? Turn the idle up. Try to take it for a bit of a ride. Don't have to go far. Would be a good thing if you can get the throttle opened up and screaming if it will... then let it sit over night. Try again tomorrow, and see if there is improvement. If it doesn't seem to be happening, the pull the carbs, and clean them out VERY well. Do you know any guitar players? Get some string "cutoffs" They work awesome to clean out the tiny holes and passages... Be sure to pull the pilot jets, and clean all that green corrosion off, and out of all the little holes in the side of them... <--- THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT... If you don't get them as clean as new, you will never get this thing to run right... Does it still have the original airbox? Is it sealed? what is the condition of the filter? These carbs are VERY finicky, but once they are dialed in right, they scream. Let us know if you run into questions on your way through...

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post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-29-2019, 10:11 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all yalls help. I got the carbs cleaned and rebuilt and got the bike running again. The newest issue is that in neutral it runs like a champ and revs good however as soon as I put it under load I have no power and I am unable to accelerate. I took off the carbs re synced them and made sure everything was up to par and still the same problem persists. also I made the air mixture settings the factory specks according to the manual. Any pointers on where to look next? Also I have already replaced the plugs and coil pacs
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Air cleaner not clogged, right?

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It sounds like itís not getting enough fuel from the tank to the carbs.

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It sounds like itís not getting enough fuel from the tank to the carbs.
That's exactly what it sounds like to me too. Check out your fuel filters in your tank and fuel pump and you should find the restriction that's causing the problem.

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That's exactly what it sounds like to me too. Check out your fuel filters in your tank and fuel pump and you should find the restriction that's causing the problem.
Being a carbed bike it should have a petcock and that would be my first suspect.

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post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-30-2019, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys I'll check all those and redo the carbs....could the choke be a factor?
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post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 07-01-2019, 12:35 PM Thread Starter
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Here's another update...put a new air filter in and dismantled the cock and fuel pump changed out the in line filter. Didnt see much that was to alarming. I fired it up earlier however I'm still having the acceleration problem. When I slip the clutch I get plenty of power but as soon as I let it out all the way it goes back to starving I think. So that being said i have the carbs back off yet again and I'll either do another rebuild or take it to the shop...probably the latter haha
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