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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 04-19-2015, 10:07 PM Thread Starter
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Wheelie clutch ups

Do you drop clutch fully? Or "slip" into friction zone? I've been fully pulling and releasing for my wheelies
It works but if it's destructive / incorrect please explain the best you can in what I should be doing

YouTube just says pull clutch rev, release clutch. So I dump it. So if it's incorrect let me know. I'd like to learn correctly to minimalist the damage to clutch
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Red line that bad boy and drop it like it just said something about your mum, might need one of these as well just incase you hit balance point to quickly



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It all depends. Slower you are going more clutch (and clutch control) you will need. For normal second gear seater or standers; Roll on, then off with bounce, and blip the clutch then gas it up. Hard to explain in words but to simplify I do not pull the clutch all the way in.

If you were to pull the clutch just until it doesn't grab anymore, thats where i'm at.

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Thank you. I will be trying it in a few days. ): been busy and weathers been bad. I think not pulling All the way it will be better on bike
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Hopefully you try it with a lil more gear on.
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You know, flip flops and everything.
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I have my power wheelies down, can ride 1st gear pretty long any at speed, up til 60 mph.
2nd gear I popped a power wheelie at 100mph, rode it to balance point. First time but it just floated up,
Power wheelies are too easy on my 750.

But I want to learn clutch til muscle memory because I hear they are safer (don't get me wrong, I feel perfectly safe on powers) since it how I've learned but clutch will prob do better for high speed wheelies. I dislike having to hit 9-10k rpm in 2nd to get it up


Clutch wheelies I do in 2nd gear, have popped them inconsistently but can ride them when I get them up. But was concerned on learning proper clutch usage before I did too many so I don't learn to clutch incorrectly.

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I bought a gopro yesterday, I havn't been on my bike in over a week.. Dad passed away and I would of gone nuts on the bike. Went out last night for about 10 minutes and tested out my new toy. Heres small video i took from the ride. One power wheelie, and one clutch up. Wasn't doing much but screwing around.

After my dads funeral today, I will be riding this week. Just been stressed and not up to riding really. but, here i made a small video, photobucket made it pixelated D: but hey it works.

I am alternating between one finger and two on clutch ups, im not sure which I prefer. the video I slipped the clutch, just ever so lightly, works like a charm.

http://vid33.photobucket.com/albums/...ps55lywja1.mp4
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Balance point will be next... any tips? I can power and clutch up, but getting to that balance point is purely accidental when I have done it.

Semi afraid. lol., other than cover rear brake? clutch harder/bring up faster to that point? how is it supposed to feel, and do's and donts guys?
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How do I get higher? I can ride these for awhile. Should I start standing or sitting back further? I can clutch wheelies easy now. It's so easy, I was way over complicating it, I use one finger and just slip a little, bam she's up.

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To get it higher you gotta give it more gas and reach the balance point. Your only at about 9 o'clock, but make sure you cover that rear brake.
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Thank you, I will take your advice and push myself this week.

When do I know I'm too far? Like oh shit. Brake brake. My fear is I won't recognize before it's too late.

Think standing will help me get to balance point/controllably.
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I'm assuming balance point is where forks are parallels to the ground you think? So I'm about a foot away. (Thinking)


Also.. Since I've been doing tons of wheelies clutched etc learning. Should I change my oil? I mean now I know how but I am not sure if my trial and errors dirtied my oil. I did it 700 miles ago, thinking of changing it in 300 miles with fresh oil since now I know how to wheelie and won't destroy the clutch further. It's taken some abuse lol. :/ hope I didn't damage it much. Only 3k on bike now.
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You gotta remember these are bikes made for racing pretty much and can take a bit of abuse. Not saying you shouldnt treat your bike like your baby, but you can give her hell and not expect to break stuff. Also with the balance point you will know once you reach it, its hard to explain but the bike seems to just sit there with throttle control of course but its not like your chasing the front wheel like most people first trying to wheelie. Ride safe and gear up .
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New tires, tightened chain (man it got loose) but its been 3k miles. cleaning chain tomorrow, changing oil. few odd things, I am curious to see how the oil is going to look after like 500 wheelies. >.>
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I stopped "actively" practicing wheelies, and just pop them a couple times a day. I do them automatically now, from 15-70mph or so, I still dont hit balance point yet. I just learned wheelies 2 weeks ago. So my buddies I ride with just say just do them overtime and the balance point will come. I feel better now that I am not dogging my clutch all day like I was doing for that long period of time. lol

Quite happy now, I ride them at about 10 o clock for awhile. I think i'll hit the 11-12 this summer. Focusing on twisties now, my first track day in two weeks. woot woot.

Thanks for all the advice in this thread, I will come back and post if I ever hit balance point and maybe make a video when time comes.
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Man you should make a video of your track day.

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Balance point wheelies achieved. I was just riding how I normally do, longer and longer. I rode with my friends and they critiqued me, said lean back I was leaning up to bike. Now I just kind of free fall back, and it just floats there. Good feeling and to be honest, not even scarey. Never used that rear brake, and I hope I never need too, due to im not trained for it lol. I just lean back and gas mid wheelie and goes right to BP.

2 months from no wheelies to balance point. I am pretty happy. Will get a video sometime. I do sit down balance point wheelies, will try and do stand ups next.
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Am I literally the only person that cannot wheelie?

You know how it is when you lean back too far in your chair and almost fall backwards, but save yourself at the last second? I feel like that all day.
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Am I literally the only person that cannot wheelie?

Nope. I haven't been able to get the front up at all.


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I think they make a pill for that .
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Just keep practicing. But do it out in the middle of nowhere without a crowd. Bad things happen when crowds are watching....
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Figured I would post back up, balance point wheelies are a go for me. Sit downs and stand ups, staggered and regular pegs. One day i'll get me a stunt bike and experiment with more positions and such.

Friend went out with me and played around with pictures.

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Not very good since its further away. But I am very happy, any speed I can seem to wheelie above 15mph, 1st 2nd and 3rd gear wheelies, I also was curious and learned to shift in wheelies if I felt like changing speeds. (was really bored for awhile) but yeah. Its fun.

took me a few months but got them down. Thanks for everyones advice !!
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Nice... Just be smart about it and keep the gear on.. Road rash is no good.. If you haven't experienced it, trust me. Go look at my build thread and you'll see..
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Nice... Just be smart about it and keep the gear on.. Road rash is no good.. If you haven't experienced it, trust me. Go look at my build thread and you'll see..

Ive been down at 80mph lol. I have road rash on knees, and elbows, and hand. I gear it up most the time. Atleast when I play I make sure to have the quality gear on. In texas, I just wore helmet and gloves, was too hot in 100* heat. Ohio isnt so bad though.
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Ive been down at 80mph lol. I have road rash on knees, and elbows, and hand. I gear it up most the time. Atleast when I play I make sure to have the quality gear on. In texas, I just wore helmet and gloves, was too hot in 100* heat. Ohio isnt so bad though.
See so you understand then.. People that haven't been here don't get it.. Lol.
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