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post #81 of 245 (permalink) Old 07-04-2005, 10:41 AM
 
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yes this is my first bike. never ridden anything other than a mongoose i could ride wheelies on that all day long though? but seriously ive only had my bike for a little over a month and i have 3200 miles on it already. id say my progress is really good for never being on a motorcycle before! haha
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i wasnt dissin on anyone man, just my assumption, it all comes with time. 3200 miles is awesome in a month, the bike i bought is a year old and only has 2000 on it, bought it from a friend, who barely rode it, just keep on tryin and remeber that the BP is alot higher than most people are comfotable with when learning,
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so any tips on switching to 2nd gear while already at BP in 1st? this is a sitdown wheelie......i get it up and can ride it till redline or damn near close, i just let off cuz its my natural reaction, BUT i wanna start trying to shift to 2nd gear while up on 1.....will a semi-jerky shift cause any uneasiness? if the tire spins at all, what kind of reaction from the bike should i expect? etc. etc.....anything will help.

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I recently started practicing sit-downs on my 2005 Suzuki-1000, I can get them up most of the time specially when I am relaxed. Yesterday i pop-ed a nice one on 1st gear at about 45mph and it felt very smooth. My question is will it be better to learn sit-downs on first or is it easier to do stand-ups?
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Man, Stand-ups on first for beginners? I donít advise that, youíve 1000 2005, thatís 2 dam powerful bike, and using the 1st on wheelies needs experience on tat bike, I suggest you do set-downs, because stand ups in the 1st is mainly for maintaining constant speed at BP, which needs to push the breaks.
I just crushed my 1000 2004 because I missed the 12 oíclock without break.

usdm420, if you want to shift from 1st to 2nd, this mean you are still far from BP, shifting mean your bike is still accelerating, anyhow, what I simply do on my 1000 is keep your foot under the gear lever, applying minimal force on the lever, that is pushing it from down without causing the lever to actual shift the gear, just keep your leg sticked to it from down, in this point where you reach 90% of rpm in the normal range ( 90% of the white rpm zone), just release the throttle slightly ( that is extremely slight) and apply little more force on the gear lever just enough to shift the gear. Most important to assure that the gear is shifted without damage, make sure that you donít release the throttle more that enough. 1 or 2 mm. and in the same time you shift the gear, and actually if you apply the correct amount of force on the lever before you release the throttle, the slight decrees in throttle will make a gap between gears that the lever will be shifted without you do anything, just with the small force you maintain. And make sure to push the throttle again after the gear shifted to the same position or slightly above. Take your time and practice to be familiar with the amount of force you need to release and apply while shifting. Other people will probably use a slight force on the clutch instead of releasing the throttle, but if you control your throttle perfect, the gear will be shifted more smoothly than with the clutch, and you will even not here a single voice from the gear, while using clutch will generate a more violent response in the bike when the gear is changed. Good luck and this is my way, others may have other methods
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just came home from hanging out a few mins ago and i decided to do a wheelie from what i've been reading on the thread before i get to my house. i decided to do a wheelie on 1st gear and power it up. well i got it up to 7 rpm and just snapped it to full throttle. At first the shit didnt got up. i let off the throttle and i guess the suspension on the front compressed and i snapped it to full throttle again it got up probably 4 inches off the ground and went down. I let off on the throttle and decided to snap it to full throttle again after the front was compressed at around 9 rpm that baby just got up quick. at first i didnt know it was going up that quick until started see the night lights on the street and rolled off the throttle only a little and it was still going up hard. i then shut it off fearing that i was going to loop it and the front tire just smack the pavement hard. I must have gotten it u for about 3 sec to 4 sec. that shit was crazy. Bad thing was i forgot to cover the rear break incase i do a 12 o'clock. Powering it up on first gear is definitely a little scary. I'll have to practice on my throttle control alot more and making sure i cover the rear brake.
Any suggestions with clutching it up on 1st or 2nd gear? What rpm do i have to be on when i clutch it upon both gears. Do i grab on the clutch and let it go quickly? I have an 03 600 btw.
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[QUOTE=saudibiker]Man, Stand-ups on first for beginners? I donít advise that, youíve 1000 2005, thatís 2 dam powerful bike, and using the 1st on wheelies needs experience on tat bike, I suggest you do set-downs, because stand ups in the 1st is mainly for maintaining constant speed at BP, which needs to push the breaks.
I just crushed my 1000 2004 because I missed the 12 oíclock without break.

usdm420, if you want to shift from 1st to 2nd, this mean you are still far from BP, shifting mean your bike is still accelerating, anyhow, what I simply do on my 1000 is keep your foot under the gear lever, applying minimal force on the lever, that is pushing it from down without causing the lever to actual shift the gear, just keep your leg sticked to it from down, in this point where you reach 90% of rpm in the normal range ( 90% of the white rpm zone), just release the throttle slightly ( that is extremely slight) and apply little more force on the gear lever just enough to shift the gear. Most important to assure that the gear is shifted without damage, make sure that you donít release the throttle more that enough. 1 or 2 mm. and in the same time you shift the gear, and actually if you apply the correct amount of force on the lever before you release the throttle, the slight decrees in throttle will make a gap between gears that the lever will be shifted without you do anything, just with the small force you maintain. And make sure to push the throttle again after the gear shifted to the same position or slightly above. Take your time and practice to be familiar with the amount of force you need to release and apply while shifting. Other people will probably use a slight force on the clutch instead of releasing the throttle, but if you control your throttle perfect, the gear will be shifted more smoothly than with the clutch, and you will even not here a single voice from the gear, while using clutch will generate a more violent response in the bike when the gear is changed. Good luck and this is my way, others may have other methods[/QUOTE

Awesome explanation.. how do you do your 2nd gear wheelies? clutch?
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Thanks Fuzion,

Regarding how I left it in 2nd, I have a point here, I faced a crepy situation cuple of times, that is pumping up the throuttle sudenly with my bike( also 1000 cc because I had 1000's from begining) can make you loss your body balance on the bike, resulting in an very strong accelaration while you are trying to keep your self on the bike, so the only thing that grips you to the bike is your hands on the steering, and if you let them you will defenitly fall of the back of the bike, and in that situation you will not be able to let go the throuttle or even move it slitly backword to slow the bike, if you face this in low RPM ( 4-8 K ) your bike will loop while you are waiting for it not capable of doing nothing, you will freez and probably will not even think to push the rear break. Realy a scary shit, and because of that I never depend on throuttle, but with smaller engines( 400-750) I guess you wo'nt face this problem. Any how, I pull the clutch fully and than let it go while 4.5-6.6 K RPM, many argue that this will consume the clutch faster, and that it should be a slight tuch to the clutch, but all my friends who do that replaced their clutch sevral times while my bike is 20,000 KM ( 12,000 M) and just now it needed to replace the clutch, logiclly, the slight tuch of the clutch should longer yur clutch life, but on reality, my observation is that the oppiset is correct.
If you have a 1000 cc, on 2nd, hit the clutch fully at 5-6 K RPM ( 30-40 MPH) with slight throuttle increase, or slight clutch tuch with relativly more throutel ( 1-2 K more than riding RPM at maximum, more RPM will sureprize U or even loop your bike).
If you do sit-downs, or you stand up when the bike is up, this will be fine, if you stand up befor lefting the bike, less RPM than I suggested up will be enogh.
Good Luck and wear your full safety gear and helmet, hugging the street is not worthy, trust me.
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here is all you need to know to do a good wheelie! all else makes you think too much!

You will never learn how to do a wheelie without first standing up on your pegs. Dont think about how much throttle to give it. just go by feel. And the most inportant thing of all is grow some balls (or ovarys if you are female) and pull the mother fing wheel up atleast 4 1/2 feet off the ground . You should see your headlight and your front tire spinning when you are finally high enough. it doesnt take a 60 tooth sprocket or a lot of performance parts to make your bike wheelie better it is all rider skill! you can read all of the freaking information in the world about wheelieing and still not be able to do one. it takes practice and balls (or ovarys) . so get off of your ass (literally) and quit being a puss and go ride some wheelies. I learned how to ride wheelies on my 93 ex 500 ninja and in that year they had 42hp and weighed about 450lbs. stop thinking so much and feel and listen to your bike . Anybody with and common sense and a little bit of balance will know when you have pushed it too hard. You dont need videos or tutorals to do wheelies it just takes an aggressive attitude and some courage! So go do the best wheelie of your life right now! I am serious get up and go do a wheelie ! NOW! GO! trust me go !!!
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the trick to switching from first to second gear in a wheelie without hitting neutral is pull the wheel up fast and at as low of rpms as possible and as soon as your wheel is about 3 feet off the ground switch right then, because the higher your rpms get the more chance you will have of hitting neutral. I dont use my cluch to shift in a wheelie i just blip the throttle and click up on the shifter.
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the trick to switching from first to second gear in a wheelie without hitting neutral is pull the wheel up fast and at as low of rpms as possible and as soon as your wheel is about 3 feet off the ground switch right then, because the higher your rpms get the more chance you will have of hitting neutral. I dont use my cluch to shift in a wheelie i just blip the throttle and click up on the shifter.
why dont you use your clutch to shift in a wheelie?
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ok I am ready for wheelies...
the only thing is should I try them sitting down first, or standing up.
I am going to attempt the clutch wheelies in 2nd gear, I dont care to do wheelies in first unless its a power wheelie. I can get first gear up to 4-5 inches.

I am also wondering since I am a bigger guy waying over 300 will my pegs support my weight standing on them? I dont want to stand up in a wheeile and eat shit cuz my peg snapped cuz of my weight.

how much weight can the rearset hold?
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Man, I had your fear erlier when I did my standups wheelies, I am 113KGk I guess this is around 250 puonds, still I blindly trusted the manufacturer (it was a lie to my self to keep my balls) and since then, nothing in the bike broke from my wieght ,yet, go ahead wieght-mate, just becarfull from slipping your huge shose from that tinny so called pegs, try a high grip material shoes.

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Hey man i live in Colorado Springs as well. I am to no avail trying to do wheelies. I have a 96 GSXR 750, I have tried it all. I have tried to clutch it. I go 15mph, pull the clutch, rev er up to like 5 or 6k and drop the clutch and roll the throttle as well. I get the tire like a foot off the ground but only for like one second. Can you help me out. Maybe we could meet somewhere and you could give me some pointers. Thanks man
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Help!!!!!!!!!

I don't know if you saw my post or not, but i live in Colorado Springs as well and having a hell of a time getting my 96GSX-R750 up. I have tried the throttle tech (sped up untill my rpm was 6k cut the throttle off completly, let if drop to 4k then slammed the throttle full, the tire never even left the ground) I have also tried the Clutch tech with a little more success (I get up to 15mph pull the clutch in with one finger, rev it up to 6k let the clutch out) I get it up like one foot but only for like one second. Please Help. Maybe we can meet up somewhere and you could give me some pointers. Thanks man


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I'm still trying to get wheelies down, but this method seems pretty good to me so far. I used to clutch the way you described: dip clutch, rev up, release clutch. I found that it usually takes a bunch of RPM's, I'm not accelerating after the front end hops, and it makes the cluch smell (LOL). But heres a method I like that I got from Kaneone at http://www.sportbikes.com/wwwthreads...20/an/0/page/0

Get going in 2nd gear at about 5k RPM's, WOT it (when he says punch it he means it), then dip the clutch ... boom its in the air, back off the throttle to ride it out. It really does look and sound good. My biggest prob when practicing this method is giving it throttle. Ya really do need to punch it. Thats actually been my biggest stumbling block when I practice any of the wheelie methods I read about. "Give it more throttle", she said ...

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I like everybodys input on this important subject cause everybodys bringin some thing 2 th table (i.e. experience,skillz,readin a book,watchin ur buddy bust his/her ass)least u know what NOT 2 do.but thers a lot of varibles here a 600 is not going 2 act the same w/ a 170lbs on it as it would w/ say 240 on it.And ive also come 2 learn that u can have 2 bikes exactly the same. one will generally out power the other.So as we all know, everything in moderation is less painfull my advice is 2 ease into both ways & pic the style ur most comfortable with for startin out.Because after all who knows ur machines limits better than u.But these guyz (gixxer&josh)both know there shit!!!!!
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I don't know if you saw my post or not, but i live in Colorado Springs as well and having a hell of a time getting my 96GSX-R750 up. I have tried the throttle tech (sped up untill my rpm was 6k cut the throttle off completly, let if drop to 4k then slammed the throttle full, the tire never even left the ground) I have also tried the Clutch tech with a little more success (I get up to 15mph pull the clutch in with one finger, rev it up to 6k let the clutch out) I get it up like one foot but only for like one second. Please Help. Maybe we can meet up somewhere and you could give me some pointers. Thanks man

Hey man I got a 97 GSXR750 (only mods are bolt on exhaust and jet kit) and I can get it up to bp (rarely) or at least close to it and ride it out. Your throttle tech that your using is wrong O_o When you do the off/on tech you let off the throttle and almost immediately hit the throttle again. YOu want to hit the throttle when the suspension compresses which doesn't take very long.
What your doing when you let it drop to 4k is like just riding normal at 4k and then hitting the gas. (is that 1st gear or 2nd?) It should lift up in 1st even if you do it wrong just because of sheer power of 1st gear. You also don't even need to rev it up to 6k on our bikes. I usually pop up my 1st gear wheelies at only 3k O_o
Also your body english is gonna decide how high and how fast your bike comes up. If your leaning forward like crazy it's not gonna come up good. I'm not good at wheelies in anyway but just figured I'd give some advice since we got pretty much the same bike (though you got fuel injection you lucky bastard haha)
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good video teaching you the basics, hopw it helps

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been practicing 1st gear power wheelies on my gixer6k4 for a while now,they always seem inconsistant, one came up so fast and high i thought i was gone,its not easy shuttig that throttle when your hanging off the back at 12 oclock any tips guys? cant crash or give up!!!
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i just learned to pop a wheelie last season and only done it a couple of times ... i do a throttle wheelie which i find easier ... however my problem is staying up i throttle it up for like 1 sec and i'm back down again because i'm scared i guess ... not rillly scared of getting hurt but more scared of damaging the bike ... my other problem is when i come down i come down hard .... any advice would be greatly appreciated thanx

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I would say that once you loose the "crest", then you should lay on the throttle to land smooth. Once you pop the clutch or give it enough gas to bring the front up, if the front end starts coming down, it will take a bunch more throttle to bring it back up so its safe to keep a solid hand on the throttle as the front lands.

Where I see most people messing up is they bring the front end up hard, get scared and then they feel like they shouldn't try again later (that would make too much sense), so they lay on a bunch more throttle and flip it.

Pop the front up with the clutch or the throttle, keep a steady hand on the throttle, and then when that feels good, throttle some more to bring the front up higher. Land while on the throttle to keep it smooth.

I'm no expert and thats just my opinion.
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Oh, I after I practice a bit, I dont use that Kane method in my previous post. The method in that google vid is spot on.

The only thing I can add is that I used to slip the clutch and then back off the throttle cuz of the noise. Didn't even know I was doing it. Keep the throttle hand on at the same spot of the slip, and if you don't give it more it will just fall back to the ground fairly nicely. Just a bit more gas and ya got a really smooth landing.
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Alright, I know this is a worn out subject, but can you guys help out another newbie? This was a long thread so I only read until my eyes were exhausted, but I didn't ever notice if anyone raised the question of the difference between say a 600 and a liter bike when trying to wheelie (If somewhere in the thread this was discussed, sorry) Anyway, I am fairly new to sportbikes. I just bought an 06 1000 and I am having a blast. I just wonder, is there a massive difference in trying wheelies on a liter bike as opposed to a 600? At the same time I bought my bike, I bought an 06' 600 for my wife. I haven't really played around with it, but I can't imagine getting the wheel up compared to my 1000. It is too easy with the 1000. I am constantly finding myself getting to that "oh shit" height and slamming the throttle shut. I am really gonna use what I read an concentrate more on what I am doing. I think I will be fine if I just slightly close the throttle as opposed to getting paranoid and slamming it shut.
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Well for one thing a 1K will whip your ass much quicker than a 600. The principle stays the same but the rmp will most probably be different. I learned doing power wheelies on my ZX12. In theory the bigger cc bike should be easier because of more hp and bottom end grunt.
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Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. It's almost like it would be a little easier if the bike would just barley wheelie as opposed to the powerhouse I'm riding now. In my experience which has just been about a month, it seems to me like trying to wheelie is like hitting a golf ball. You swing and swing and swing and then all of the sudden, the ball is hit totally perfect and it was effortless. I find myself doing this with wheelies.. It's like I try and try and then all the sudden, it just comes up so smooth and I carry it farther than I ever have without getting scared and it just lands like a jetliner.....That makes me just want to keep trying....
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I ride a K6 600, and sometimes it comes up on a power wheelie. the rpm's are the same. I think it's how i'm setting on the bike. But I'm new to wheelie on street bike. I know on a dirt bike the powerband has alot more punch. But anyways I think if you ride a 600 power wheelies arre lot easyer to learn than using the cluch. There's just so much less that can go wrong with a power wheelie. that's just my 2 cents.
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thanks for the tips guys i appreciate them
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I dont understand, I dropped a tooth on the front sprocket and i thought it would be no problem. but i followed the directions in this post to the t and nothing. maybe my front will come up like an ich or two but nothing more. this is really frustrating cuz my friend on a 600RR can do it like its nothing. any help would be appreciated. thanks. 2001 GSXR 600
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I dont understand, I dropped a tooth on the front sprocket and i thought it would be no problem. but i followed the directions in this post to the t and nothing. maybe my front will come up like an ich or two but nothing more. this is really frustrating cuz my friend on a 600RR can do it like its nothing. any help would be appreciated. thanks. 2001 GSXR 600
then you are obviously not doing something right. its more skill than balls or power. especially on a 600. I could pull it up in 2nd with no problems. I want you to pay attention to your rpms I bet you are listening to the engine and shifting way too early. just open the throttle wide open at about 9000 in first gear and tell me if it doesnt walk right up. If you need a qicker answer you can email me and I will answer it immediatley ,I check my emails about 50 times per day
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i have a k6 1000 and i weigh about 260lbs at 6'2 . today i had my wife video tape me. I wanted to just do a fast pass and when i put the bike in 3rd i was doin round 100-110 and all of a sudden the front end came up. REALLLLLy fast!! i got spooked and let off... the sad part is... the camera was messin up and didn't get that [email protected]@$%#$%@^@%^#@. i really wanted to see how high i was and all that.
i have also been working on my 1st gear wheelies and i can bring her up about 1-2 feet then it feels wrong so i let her down. sometimes the bike will all of a sudden veer off to the left or right and i have to bring it back down... not sure why??
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i have a k6 1000 and i weigh about 260lbs at 6'2 . today i had my wife video tape me. I wanted to just do a fast pass and when i put the bike in 3rd i was doin round 100-110 and all of a sudden the front end came up. REALLLLLy fast!! i got spooked and let off... the sad part is... the camera was messin up and didn't get that [email protected]@$%#$%@^@%^#@. i really wanted to see how high i was and all that.
i have also been working on my 1st gear wheelies and i can bring her up about 1-2 feet then it feels wrong so i let her down. sometimes the bike will all of a sudden veer off to the left or right and i have to bring it back down... not sure why??
man u better take babe steps before walking if u can't ride 1st or 2nd gear wheelies why even try 3rd at those speeds sounds like to me your going to get hurt learn the bike first that bike has to much power to not respect

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I'd also suggest you slow yourself down...that speed is not a safe speed to be practicing wheelies if you can't even do 1st and 2nd gears. My friend witnessed someone doing it how you were practicing. Couldn't get 1st and 2nd gear down good so he decided to try 3rd gear...he should be thankful that he's still alive.

Just practice more with your 1st and 2nd gear wheelies. Once you get those down then go ahead and try 3rd gear.
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yeah, i've been doin 1st gear only wheelies sometimes 2nd but thats at about 40mph a little too fast for me by the time the front end comes down i'm around 70.
went out today tryed it a few times and again only 1-2 feet up. i duuno.. kinda pisses me off. oh well only had the 3 weeks so far. i've got all summer, i can say i'm cornering pretty good i have a 1 inch chix strip so far
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post #118 of 245 (permalink) Old 05-18-2006, 03:56 AM
 
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Sh*t gr8 tips on this forum. I had a 929RR b4 I just recently sold it and moved up to the brand new 06 1000RR. I used to power wheelie my 929 all the way through 1st until i ran out of my rpms (hehehe) never even tried to clutch it up in 2nd or shift from 1st into 2nd. Now that I got the 1000RR I cant wait to break that bitch in so i can get back into my wheelies. Neways just stopping by to say you guys are doing awesome work on this forum and thank you to anyone that added their technique and opinion on how to wheelie I`m sure it helped alot of ryders out there. Neways thx and keep up the good work. 140 miles to go and the bitch is completly broken in its the countdown stunters hehehehe. Sh*t wish me luck and dont anybody dare to say break a leg hehehehe.
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post #119 of 245 (permalink) Old 06-18-2006, 07:43 PM
 
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You Popped My Cherry!!!!!!!!

Today on father's day I popped my first wheelie via your info above. Kudos to you, I'm one happy camper. I never thought it could be so easy. I've been out all day bringing it up on every block in town. I'm like an old man on Viagra Thanks a million
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post #120 of 245 (permalink) Old 06-26-2006, 03:38 PM
 
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I know it's a repost but ...don't forgetabout the video


This Just In...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...402466&pl=true

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