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Chain maintenance. All new riders read!

I have seen a few threads lately with chains breaking due to clip links and improper maintenance. Now that riding season is in full swing I'm hoping to educate some of the new riders as well as the seasoned riders that may not know their way around a tool box.

Hopefully this will open some eyes if you have doubts or questions.

First clip style links...

Every new chain that I've bought has had a disclaimer in the instructions about the links. Someone step in and correct me if I'm wrong, but every chain manufacturer out there recommends the use of a rivet style master link.

Bottom line... Use the rivet master link that came with the chain. These engines have too much horse power to trust anything else.

That being said, most riders that don't have the know how or the tools to install a rivet link and settle with a clip on because its easier.

Look up vids on YouTube for rivet installation procedures. When in doubt, post a thread and ask. We all have to start somewhere and there are plenty of riders on this site that know what they are talking about.

Here are some recent examples of damage threads

https://www.gsxr.com/showthread.php?p...57#post1230657

https://www.gsxr.com/showthread.php?p...69#post1738769

https://www.gsxr.com/showthread.php?p...09#post1707809


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I'm not trying to preach here but take it from me and learn from my dumb ass mistake. The clip on master link is not recommended. My total rebuild cost was right around $2,000 (new engine, tools, chain and sprockets). I don't care about the money but if you're like me, the 2 months that I couldn't ride were worse than forking out that much cash.

Now on to chain maintenance. There are many different brands of chains and chain lubes out there. Lets not start another debate on what brand is better. I would rather discuss how to maintain whatever kind of chain you plan on buying.

This is straight from the manual. The tolerances and limits may differ for different model years and engine sizes but this will give you a general idea of what to look for. Chains stretch over time. No matter how clean it looks it could be time to replace it.


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Take this for what it's worth and keep that chain clean. Remember just spraying lube on your chain from time to time is not proper cleaning. If you enjoy the use of your fingers, never clean the chain with the bike running!!! Last thing any of us want to see is a rebuild thread and the frustrations that come with it.

Ive seen some info online that say that clip links are only 70% as strong as the rest of the links. Just like the saying... The chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Ride safe gents and keep the shiny side up!
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Make sure you get the correct side oil. As you can see, the cap is on the left side so this is for left side stators.



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Good info to at least have this in the back of your mind when doing maintenance.
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I am just want the noobs to learn from my mistakes
And also they should know 200 bucks for a chain is well worth it not a 40 dollar chain trust me on my old cbr 1000 I went cheap and almost lost my motor like you 3N I pay the money for D.I.D. Gold series x-ring chain all day every day and plus they last for a good amount of time


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Good idea ans good job on write up!!

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Trying to up your karma for the MPG there, 3N?

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I've gotten quite good at it cleaning my chain. at least one a week.

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They just dont get it. I was trying to tell a kid this last week, that one who wanted to use two master links because he cut the chain too short. even with the rivet masterlink , that masterlink is the weakest spot in your chain. The chances of a rivet style breaking are far less, if you install them correctly. My biggest advice is take your time, measure twice cut once on the chain. And buy a damn chain breaker/riveter. They arent that expensive

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Don't forget to add that if you get a split in your rivet head when you set the rivet, cut it and put a new master link. A split rivet head is probably weaker than a clip link.

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Don't forget to add that if you get a split in your rivet head when you set the rivet, cut it and put a new master link. A split rivet head is probably weaker than a clip link.

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Great post! I've always used kerosene and a toothbrush to clean my chains, then compressed air to clear out and residue. I use Dupont's "Chain Saver" wax to pin-point the application on every link plate. After it's dry, it will not fling-off.

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Just run it until it breaks and frags the engine. Don't you know these bikes are worn out if they have over 10k on the clock? Perfect excuse for a new engine.

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Thanks for the info. I need to give my chain a good cleaning.
I'm surprised the manual says to use heavyweight motor oil. I'm not surprised they spelled kerosene wrong

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Thanks for the writeup , looks like I need to obtain kerosene and get rid of the old WD-40.
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Thanks for the writeup , looks like I need to obtain kerosene and get rid of the old WD-40.
Why? Either works just fine.
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Thanks for the post. Does anyone know where I can find a link to the service Manuel?
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Great info.

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I've been wondering if I should replace my chain this just confirmed yes for winter lol great writeup
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RK and Motion Pro both have good chain tools for less than $70. Much cheaper than new cases! Rivet master links are the only way to go on a sportbike, clip-type links are for dirt bikes.

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Make sure to grind the rivet flat before using the extractor every time.


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While we are here, How does this sprocket look? I have a little slop on the chain, but haven't had the chance to clean it up yet.
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Personally I think it still looks fine. Daily rider? No track ho?

They aren't sharp, and it doesn't look like they have nearly any curvature to them.


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K7 750 with 17-18k street miles. I ride it whenever I can (Commute, errands, anything). Stock chain and sprockets. I've checked the chain and it is fine, but this story made me second guess that with the miles I have.

I went to the track twice last year, it was with a training group and I was in the beginner class. 2014 though I plan on hitting the track more! It is a blast!!!!!

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While we are here, How does this sprocket look? I have a little slop on the chain, but haven't had the chance to clean it up yet.

The side looks worn - see how there are two different planes as indicated by the arrow - that should indicate misalignment.
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