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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-17-2019, 08:48 PM Thread Starter
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Pulled over twice in 1 weeks!

I know what you're thinking.. why didnt I just run?! Cause I usually say the same thing. Well here's why.

On saturday a state trooper yelled to me at a stop sign and got out and walked over to me. Thought maybe he was going to tell me my backpack was unzipped or something. It was because my license plate was bent. I could've dusted him when I pulled out infront of him but I was just relaxing enjoying the weather not doing amything wrong so I didn't expect it. He gave me a $117 ticket for improper display of license plate. I was pissed, sent it in not guilty.

So tonight I sat at a red light for 7 minutes or so. It notoriously takea forever plus being on a bike I assumed it couldn't sense me, so I waited until it was safe and made a left turn. Then I proceeded to warm my tires when I noticed them behind me. I pulled right over assuming the might've already got my plate on camera and figuring it was because I was scrubbing my new pirelli supercorsa's in and they didn't know why I was zigzagging, forgot I had just ran a red light lol. They were cool and just let me off with a warning after explaining it to them, in a town where the cops are notoriously dickheads.

Moral of the story, just cover your license plates guys or ride without one(just kidding)
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Personally, I decided that running is not an option decades ago. If I'm in the right and get pulled over, than I'll defend myself. If I am doing something totally stupid, which I seriously avoid, I'll accept the consequences and still defend myself.

Fortunately, the few times I got to meet the LEO have been polite, professional and got just a warning.

I don't know what the law is in your state but in NC they are not supposed to pursue over some threshold but do anyway for whatever excuse they need at the time. I think I've read of at least three riders dying in pursuits the last couple of years near me, and twice that number crashing out hard.

Also in NC a the improper equipment ticket would turn into a class 1 Misdemeanor or even a Felony if there are aggravating circumstances. Not a good trade.

I don't know how you managed to get a ticket for the tag, but it sounds like the interaction did not go well.

As far as swerving back and forth, that is just a red flag that says pull me over. It is also pretty useless to put heat in the tires. If you want to scrub the sides in, you can do that in a parking lot at 20mph.

In NC is a defense you an use to go through a red light if you wait for 3 min? and proceed with caution if the traffic light system does not trigger. I have two lights between home and work that I regularly go through as they never pick up the bike. You might check what your state does.

Lastly, it is spring and LEO steps up enforcement on bikes. Happens every year locally. I just try to stay off the main roads and keep my head down.
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I canít imagine running being a good option. I got pulled over in my car when I was young & stupid doing 125MPH in a 75 zone. Turns out it wasnít a speed trap but a safety inspection of lights and indicators!

I found that if I drop the kickstand on the sensors at errant lights the metal in the kickstand triggers the change sequence and off I go. Dunno if the US lights work the same way.


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You run and you put other people in danger. And feed the stigma that people who ride sportbikes are adrenaline filled morons. Just don't.
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So let's get this straight. I wouldn't actually like run from the police. Like if they lit me up and are chasing me. But if I go by one at speed I'm going to and already do keep going lol. At my job I deal with the local staye troopers and cops as well. We talk about bikes all of the time and how they handle them. Number 1 they don't chase them and if they run they after lighting them up they let them go. 2 they don't really bother the bikes for the most part unless they are doing something really stupid. They will ticket you to death when they scrape you off the road. 3 all of them agree the ticket I got for the plate was ridiculous he shouldve just told me to bend it back. And that stoo actually went just fine. He asked me how fast Ive gotten it up to and how fast he's gone and what not. Only downside to the stop was when he came back with the ticket lol.

The city cops were cool. Them pulling me over had nothing to do with me scrubbing in the tires. And John are you saying scrubbing in the tires before I lean the bike way over does nothing?? Even in 40 degree weather? That would go against everything I've been told back to when my dad used to ride.

And I am an adrenaline junky lol. It is literally why I ride. I don't ride around pinning the thing the whole time but when there's no traffic hell ya I open it up. I take turns at speed and what not. I don't put other people's lives in danger though. I do disagree with that level of ignorance.
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Also keep in mind these tires were brand new. Like yesterday new so I am still wearing them in. People will disagree on warming the sides of the tires till the cows go home but it doesn't hurr and gives me piece of mind before I enter a curve.
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Also keep in mind these tires were brand new. Like yesterday new so I am still wearing them in. People will disagree on warming the sides of the tires till the cows go home but it doesn't hurr and gives me piece of mind before I enter a curve.
Actually, you can lose control by doing it, and you can lowside or highside depending on how the bike does go down. So, it does hurt. If you want heat in your tires, buy tire warmers or ride them until they're warm.
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Also keep in mind these tires were brand new. Like yesterday new so I am still wearing them in. People will disagree on warming the sides of the tires till the cows go home but it doesn't hurr and gives me piece of mind before I enter a curve.
Scuffing or warming? I can see how scuffing the side in would help, but the heat is going to spread out fairly evenly after about 10 mins of just normal riding... But yeah, I'd scuff my new sides in before hammering around a few turns.

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Police are a different breed in the UK,I couldn't handle the bullshit you guys put up with..they are 90% more relaxed here..the fact you got a $117 fine for that is ridiculous...land of the free do they say ????
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You'll get more heat in the tires with acceleration and braking, not swerving. Tires don't have the mold release compounds they used to back in the day that people wanted to "scrub".

https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/02/1...ht-temperature

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Weaving back and forth minimally increases the temperature of the tires, but does put you at greater risk of going down by depending on cornering grip from cold tires. Additionally those riders have had warmers on their tires to bring them up to temperature, and even then it still takes them about two laps on the track to get up to maximum performance temperature. For the casual rider it is best recommended to use strong acceleration and braking forces while upright and not leaned over, to generate heat in the tire carcass. This heat then transfers to the tread compound increasing your overall grip once up to proper operating temperatures during the break in process. Even after the tires are broken in, this is a procedure weíd recommend when you get back on the road to make youíre riding with the maximum amount of grip every time.
https://www.bikebandit.com/blog/how-...torcycle-tires
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Lastly, it is spring and LEO steps up enforcement on bikes. Happens every year locally. I just try to stay off the main roads and keep my head down.
John puts his head down, drops a few gears, and ..... ;-), I agree and in WI, if the light didn't trip, after a certain time you can proceed with caution also- it's actually a law like many other states.

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Actually, you can lose control by doing it, and you can lowside or highside depending on how the bike does go down. So, it does hurt. If you want heat in your tires, buy tire warmers or ride them until they're warm.
Nick, we both know that you know more than me on these subjects, but,
I've read several times that I thought that you didn't need tire warmers for DOT, street tires really. Racing slicks yes

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John puts his head down, drops a few gears, and ..... ;-), I agree and in WI, if the light didn't trip, after a certain time you can proceed with caution also- it's actually a law like many other states.



Nick, we both know that you know more than me on these subjects, but,
I've read several times that I thought that you didn't need tire warmers for DOT, street tires really. Racing slicks yes
I was mainly joking. That being said, the reason you run tire warmers on DOT tires is because you want the tires hot from the get-go. It takes time to warm up tires by riding, and especially on a track session that is precious time you're wasting. Racing slicks even more so, because many of the compounds take quite a bit more effort to get heat into them, which is also the reason they're pretty silly for street use (ignoring their entire lack of legality and hilarity if it rained).

So, you do still run tire warmers on DOT tires, just not typically just because you're going to ride curvy roads. But, if you live right by them and want to know your tires were warm, you COULD throw tire warmers on them and know you're going into those corners with toasty tires.

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You'll get more heat in the tires with acceleration and braking, not swerving. Tires don't have the mold release compounds they used to back in the day that people wanted to "scrub".

https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/02/1...ht-temperature

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Weaving back and forth minimally increases the temperature of the tires, but does put you at greater risk of going down by depending on cornering grip from cold tires. Additionally those riders have had warmers on their tires to bring them up to temperature, and even then it still takes them about two laps on the track to get up to maximum performance temperature. For the casual rider it is best recommended to use strong acceleration and braking forces while upright and not leaned over, to generate heat in the tire carcass. This heat then transfers to the tread compound increasing your overall grip once up to proper operating temperatures during the break in process. Even after the tires are broken in, this is a procedure we’d recommend when you get back on the road to make you’re riding with the maximum amount of grip every time.
https://www.bikebandit.com/blog/how-...torcycle-tires
I've read all the articles already so I know what you're saying. But the argument does still stand. So I just hit all my bases before I go into a hard corner over 40 and putting a knee down. But you're also right tires are different than they were back then.
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