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post #41 of 137 (permalink) Old 03-18-2006, 01:21 PM
 
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I'm with Vassago, I bought an '04 600 with 18 years riding experience. Plenty of power, awesome driveability. I just got a 2005 750 motor for the bike, now i'm kind of having second thoughts as to why i'm doing a swap.
Have you gone down 1 up front yet. I just did the accel. kit from rk on my 04 600. Little less top end(like im gonna miss it) but more torquedown low, hopefully. I really do love the overall driveabilty of my sixxer. I've taken rides on both the 1000 and 750 of the same year and it seems like I really made the right choice for once. I'm also considering a 750 swap if the chain conversion isn't enough. The 1000 I drove just made me relize how much control and focus one of those things require. Takes the fun out of it for me. I like feeling the gears and with that all u need is 2nd and 3rd. The 750 though made me think It would take a little getting used to but its managable for the srteet. Gonna need to ride my bike with the coversion1st to really know tho. Let me know if you go through with that swap though
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post #42 of 137 (permalink) Old 04-03-2006, 12:12 PM
 
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i feel liek a jackass

ok so ive wanted a crotch rocket for years and now i finally got one, ive never road one before and i was offered a deal that i could nto pass on....
a buddy of mine had an 02 gsxr 1000 that he had since new.. he barley rode it and never laid it down, i rfode ont he back of it a few times and lieked it.... 2 weeks ago he sed it was for sale for pay off that being 4000$ i told him id take it and went home to check the blue book... 6800!!!! how could i pass that up a gsxr 1000 qith less than 7000 miles never laid down stock except for 0ne-race-tires.. so here i am a rookie to the bike world with a gsxr 1000... and after reading your guys' posts i feel lieka jackass im no city boy by anymeans i race snocross and ride my dirtbike everyday but now you guys got me scared to go out and ride it

what to do.... any tips on ridin and what not to do any tricks to no befor ei learn them the hard way???

thanks jordan im in mid michigan if any of you guys wanna go ridin and show me whats up
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ok so ive wanted a crotch rocket for years and now i finally got one, ive never road one before and i was offered a deal that i could nto pass on....
a buddy of mine had an 02 gsxr 1000 that he had since new.. he barley rode it and never laid it down, i rfode ont he back of it a few times and lieked it.... 2 weeks ago he sed it was for sale for pay off that being 4000$ i told him id take it and went home to check the blue book... 6800!!!! how could i pass that up a gsxr 1000 qith less than 7000 miles never laid down stock except for 0ne-race-tires.. so here i am a rookie to the bike world with a gsxr 1000... and after reading your guys' posts i feel lieka jackass im no city boy by anymeans i race snocross and ride my dirtbike everyday but now you guys got me scared to go out and ride it

what to do.... any tips on ridin and what not to do any tricks to no befor ei learn them the hard way???

thanks jordan im in mid michigan if any of you guys wanna go ridin and show me whats up
Before even thinking about getting on it, take the MSF course. Having dirt riding experience is good, but riding streetbikes are different.
Take the course, get your license (if you dont already have it), then take it to a parking lot and PRACTICE the manuevers you learned in the class. Practice braking properly and swerving. Turns from stops and feathering the clutch. Don't even think about giving into temptation and letting her loose....

OR, here's an even better suggestion.
Take the MSF course, get your license, then SELL that bike and make some money off of it, then use that money to buy a better "starter" bike. You'll learn to be a better rider that way on a more forgiving bike then upgrade later on when your skills are up.
Good luck man.
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well the guy i got it from never rode one either before he bought it and the dealership tried tlakin him outa it too but he sed " i control how fast it goes and theres no sense in gettina bike ill out ride ina summer" he got it rode into it slowly and turned otu to be a great rider hes set down wheelies with me on the back at 136 before and has never laid it down he also had the same previous experience as myself.... i respect power and what dangers are involved and i cant see selling somethign i got so cheap i look at it this way i paid 4000 for it so i can put plpd on it with comp and save my ass on insurance if i got a neweer one i would wanna full coverage it

is a good first trip jsut to hop on it and hit the highway for an easy cruise to my cabin up north and back??? (130 miles there) i htink that would provide alot of consistant balance time

more help you guiys can provide that doesnt involve selling the bike i would love to hear thanks

jordan o im 6 '1" 180 lbs if that helps anything
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Respect and self control are key. You will be fine. Don't be afraid of it or you won't enjoy it. More over if you ride scared you're a greater liability. Go slow you'll get the hang of it. I'm sure the first time you were on your dirtbike you didn't go bust triples.
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thanks that makes me feel a hell of alot better it would be nice if i could hope on it and ride it liek my race sled tho......

im gonna go get it out fo storage here ina few hours ill let ya guys no hwo the maiden first 5 miles go

wish me luck
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Take it easy and you will enjoy it a long time.

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wow talk about fun..... the whole 5 miles was amazing... i think just cruisin crotch rockets are easier to ride that dirt bikes... i think as long as i take it easy its gonna be a good first bike for me im not afraid of it and i feel good on it

thanks for the pre ride pointers guys

ill get some pics of it up here asap

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first bike

My first bike was an 04 kat 600 , and i bought that because i was listening to every one who said if you never had a bike before get something less than a 600. (never rode cycles when i was little or anything) 4 months after having the bike i was regreting it. sure it was fast but not as fast as my freinds r6 and gsxrs which was not a big deal at first but it got old fast.

Get the bike you want i would not go above or below 600cc and i would not get like a ninja 250 just because its your first bike. in my opinion and gixer 600 is perfect
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I agree. My friend had a 600 cbr. I rode it for about a month got to where i could ride weelies, corner fast, then i got a gsxr 1000, I could wheelie but not at high speeds, and seemed as if the wind fucked with me more on it. Wouldn't get a 1000. I'm about to get my first bike in February. Know I'm going with a 600. Hell I can only get better.
You make no sense ...
"then i got a gsxr 1000"
"I'm about to get my first bike in Februrary. Know I'm going with a 600"

Seems you can't make up your mind with your story.

Many may not be able to handle a GSXR-600 -
But for those who purchase a Katana and realize they want an upgrade after two months, isn't very delightful either.

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Gents,

I would like to continue this string and a futher query seems appropriate herein.

I am considering the purchase of another motorcycle and would like your insight. Historically, I have logged 5,0000 miles on a 600cc Katana and 1000cc Ninja, but haven't been on a bike in @ 10 years. My riding ability is very modest. I am not a "good" rider, but would like to learn to ride well.

I am considering a 600cc sportbike or a SV650. The latter seems more "tame", and a wiser choice. The application will be primarily track use at MAM about 20 minutes from my home. They have open track nights on Thursdays, and this is a major boon .

I am a pragmatist at heart, and will not likely push beyond sane limits on the track. I will NOT try anything marginal/stupid on the street. IMO, riding a bike on the street seems much more dangerous than on the track, and the habits of some guys riding on the street are very dangerous IMO.

I read GSXR accident posts for @ 2 hours, and it seems like about 30% of them were caused by "the other guy" this is frightening for me. I have experienced a few close calls on the street. I'd much rather have the solace of a full leather suit and a grassy field to slide into on a race track. Also, most of the recreational riders at this complex seem very safe/sane in their habits.

So... the only reason I am tempted to by a 600cc GSXR is for the suspension and brakes already present on these bikes. Getting good suspension and brakes on a SV650 via Ohlins/Penske and redone forks will cost about $1200 and this cost appears unrecoverable at resale. Then there are rear-sets. These cost a few $$ too. At this point, the SV650 cost is on-par with the GSXR cost.

A buddy also told me that bigger bikes (i.e. 1000cc bikes) go through tires at an alarming rate at the track, but SV650s are very easy on tires. How are the GSXRs on tires? Will a good set of tires last 5-10 evening track sessions on a 600cc GSXR or... more?

So... if ya' had some experience, were a 38 year old family guy, and the application was 80% track, would you buy a GSXR or SV650?

FWIW, I am 5'10" and 180lbs.

Thanks in advance for your response.

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Okay as a guy who just bought an 05 GSXR600 the other day i have to weigh in on the 600 vs 100 debate.

Now i weight about 210-215 depending on the day and am 5'10" and my bike is all stock in the power department. If i am in the upper rev range and even twist the throttle a little too much the bike wants to lift the front wheel and accelerates at a crazy rate.

Now i have been riding bikes since i was 10 (i am 20 now) and had an older 185 Honda Enduro before this and i was able to do wheelies and really get on it. But on the 600 i do everything i can to avoid it just becuase it seems like it has the power to get away from me.

I took the MSF and still that doesn't get you ready for the control of these bikes. the smallest control inputs will bring a big response from these bikes, that is part of the appeal but also part of te threat to new riders.

The idea that people with little riding experience think they can jump right to a liter bike scares the crap out of me just knowing how powerful a 600 is.

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I wish that that would work but ppl always think that their situation is different will continue to post the question and hear the same empty rhetoric that will be said!
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personally i started on the 750 gsxr and i dont regret it one bit
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I just bought a 99 GSXR 750. It is my first bike. I live in a small town with very little traffic and nice wide roads. I am very respectful as to the power of my 750 and I plan on staying near home for a while to get used to my bike. Now...that being said, I am happy with my 750 as a first bike, although I do agree that anyone who has an erge to learn stunts/push a bike to the redline, should NOT start out on a bike this size.
FYI- Im 20 years old 6'4'' 215

PS. Just think of your bike like its your dog. Every time you crack the throttle its just like kicking your dog....the more times you kick him, the better chance he will bite your ass...
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PS. Just think of your bike like its your dog. Every time you crack the throttle its just like kicking your dog....the more times you kick him, the better chance he will bite your ass...
I love that!

My first bike was the Triumph Rocket III: 2294cc and 96bhp on tickover...

I deliberately got it because it would challenge me and make me treat it with respect. That side of the relationship worked well - unfortunately it developed leprocy and Japanese reliability became the most important thing.
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Okay as a guy who just bought an 05 GSXR600 the other day i have to weigh in on the 600 vs 100 debate.

Now i weight about 210-215 depending on the day and am 5'10" and my bike is all stock in the power department. If i am in the upper rev range and even twist the throttle a little too much the bike wants to lift the front wheel and accelerates at a crazy rate.

Now i have been riding bikes since i was 10 (i am 20 now) and had an older 185 Honda Enduro before this and i was able to do wheelies and really get on it. But on the 600 i do everything i can to avoid it just becuase it seems like it has the power to get away from me.
For those people that consider buying a GSXR 600, I want to get into more detail about this comment (specifically the "wheel lifting" part):

If you are in the "upper" rev range you are there because you want to be.

Unless you have just no clue about motorcycles and don't know that you have a serious powerplant under your ass. Cause in that case you're definately sitting on the wrong bike
But since you are reading this post here, you most likely don't fall into the "no clue" category.

I've been riding a GSXR 600 K6 for about 2 months now. The last time I rode a bike before was about 11 years ago when I did my driving licenses. So I am a newbie rider, but I can tell you about my experience with the 600.
If I just cruise around I am running at around 4-5K rpms with a higher gear.
If you pull on the throttle at cruising rpms nothing much happens. Probably less than on a touring bike that has 70hp and more low end torque.
The GSXR starts pulling harder at around 8K.

I have only tried to get the front wheel off the street like 3 times until now (1st gear, on my way to work) and it never left the ground. I thought I had given it quite a lot of throttle but the wheel did not lift.

Now this is probably the advantage of someone that starts out on a bigger bike, is aware of what he is driving and respects it.
Someone coming from a smaller bike might just open up the throttle a lot more then I am because he is used to doing that from his old, slower bike.

So if you are aware of what you are riding, this bike definately won't drop you off everytime you give it some gas.

Anyway, if you buy such a bike you are most likely a person that "wants" to go up to 12 or 14k rpm from time to time (when passing slower cars, just for the fun of it, or whatever reason). I have as well, but still, my front wheel never lifted since I ride my Gixxer.

And the power you get up in that rev range is really much more than enough. You don't "need" a Liter Bike.

Hope this info helps someone.

Stay safe and have fun

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hello everyone...just wanted to say hi and thank everyone for all the very helpful info on this site/thread! i just bought one of the first 2007 GSXR600s to hit the showroom at the dealership by my house. it was such an impulse buy! i wandered on in there after work one day and i left with a brand new black gsxr600. im coming over from the cbr from about 6 years ago...yeah, its been that long since ive ridden. i took it out today for the first time and i absolutely loved it! its been a while for me...and i just wanted to say hello and thanx for the info!

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there is a lot to read in this thread, so i might have missed it, but im pretty short, 5'5" and would i even be able to ride a gsxr? I threw my leg over my friends and could have it up without the kickstand, but im not sure if it'd be comfortable to ride? whats my best bet? thanks guys
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Bobman64, im 5'6 and i ride a 96 gsxr 750, i can get both feet on the ground just fine. in regards to this thread, I've been driving high performance sports cars for years, cars up to 600 whp, nothing could have prepared me for riding a 750 for the first time, it was terrifying, easily faster than anything on four wheels. I think that, given my experience anybody who wants to start on a 600 may reconsider very quickly once they scare the crud out of themselves. you can get in trouble pretty fast on a 250 if your spacing out, triple the horspower and if you blink or sneeze or panic you might have serious trouble.
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like my name says i wish i had one i just read every post in here and i think that it might just save my life i was once of those " a 600 will leave me wanting more" but after reading this im going to go with a 600 or a lesser learner bike ive had some experience with dirt bikes and quads but i now see this a whole new ball game and i was wondering about the height to cause im only 5'6" and that question was answered thanks guys

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you can get in trouble pretty fast on a 250 if your spacing out, triple the horspower and if you blink or sneeze or panic you might have serious trouble.
You aint kidding!! I happen to be a VIOLENT sneezer. Im always worried about that when im riding. Anyone else have this problem?
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Well to start with if your new, you should start with something safe, for you will have to obtain skill before you go big and fast. Anyone can switch gears and twist a throttle, but you have to know your limits. So buy what you think you like but smaller!
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Droppin the bike

Whats the most common way people drop their bike?
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Whats the most common way people drop their bike?
I've seen people turning really slow and accidentally lock up the front break. Bike falls right over. Not paying attention and forgetting to put down the kickstand always worked. Also, when you stop, watch where you put your foot. If you put your foot in dirt or sand you may end up doing the splits ontop of your fallen bike. There's probably more...
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I've seen people turning really slow and accidentally lock up the front break. Bike falls right over. Not paying attention and forgetting to put down the kickstand always worked. Also, when you stop, watch where you put your foot. If you put your foot in dirt or sand you may end up doing the splits ontop of your fallen bike. There's probably more...
Another is just trying to walk your bike in your garage or drive way and just loosing balance due to a weight shift, and boom, theres a few hundred dollar fix because you lost your footing or cant hold your bike up.
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ok, i know this probably sounds reallly stupid, cause its probably really obvious, but what is the little bottle on the handle bars hold?
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ok, i know this probably sounds reallly stupid, cause its probably really obvious, but what is the little bottle on the handle bars hold?
It does, and it really is, and its called Brake Fluid


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It does, and it really is, and its called Brake Fluid
haha ok, thats what i thought actually, but wasnt sure...give me a break, im still learning alllll this stuff before i even have a bike
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haha ok, thats what i thought actually, but wasnt sure...give me a break, im still learning alllll this stuff before i even have a bike
Have you thought about what you want for a bike and the gear you plan on getting?


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I hate when newbies say they want a 1000. It's this macho-ism that leads to them dropping their bike or worse. I've been riding for 7 years and I've had 3 bikes, all 600's. It's all the power I need.
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yea, im found a 2005 r6 a guy locally is selling, Raven with blue flame exaust, 3000 miles for $6000, so im trying to get that asap. I constantly look at gear because thats all I hear you guys talking about so I found a leather icon jacket i want, not sure the name of it, just all black, nothing fancy, alpinestar gloves, and im not sure about what kind of helmet yet, all depends on how cheap I can find a good one, and by that i mean shoei suomy or arai...
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hey i still havent gotten a bike yet but i dont think i want to start with a 600..i was thinking a 750 because im a little tall...over 6ft and i think im too big for a 600...im not going to be macho and try to get a 1k but i think a 750 would be good for me....ive been around toys all my like and know how to respect them. just because you have over 140hp doesnt mean you always need to use it all...specially just starting off..sound good?
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hey i still havent gotten a bike yet but i dont think i want to start with a 600..i was thinking a 750 because im a little tall...over 6ft and i think im too big for a 600...im not going to be macho and try to get a 1k but i think a 750 would be good for me....ive been around toys all my like and know how to respect them. just because you have over 140hp doesnt mean you always need to use it all...specially just starting off..sound good?
1000 is 2 small for U. Get a BUSA instead
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haha i need one with turbo..like the lime green one that the ghost rider has..499 rwhp?! hell yea!!! haha
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hey i still havent gotten a bike yet but i dont think i want to start with a 600..i was thinking a 750 because im a little tall...over 6ft and i think im too big for a 600...im not going to be macho and try to get a 1k but i think a 750 would be good for me....ive been around toys all my like and know how to respect them. just because you have over 140hp doesnt mean you always need to use it all...specially just starting off..sound good?
Size won't really make a difference. All Suzuki Supersports are basically the exact same size. Only the 1000 is a tiny bit wider due to the bigger exhausts on both sides. Seat height is exactly the same for 600, 750 and 1000, and if you think you need more power because you are tall, I don't think you have tested a 600 yet. Rev it up and it IS fast... Other than that, I think a 750 is a good choice as well.

GSX-R 600:
Overall Length: 2040mm (80.3 in.)
Overall Width: 715mm (28.1 in.)
Overall Height: 1125mm (44.3 in.)
Seat Height: 810mm (31.9 in.)
Ground Clearance: 130mm (5.1 in.)
Wheelbase: 1400mm (55.1 in.)
Dry Weight: 161 kg (354 lbs) CA Spec: 162 kg (357 lbs.)

GSX-R 750:
Overall Length: 2040mm (80.3 in.)
Overall Width: 715mm (28.1 in.)
Overall Height: 1125mm (44.3 in.)
Seat Height: 810mm (31.9 in.)
Ground Clearance: 130mm (5.1 in.)
Wheelbase: 1400mm (55.1 in.)
Dry Weight: 163 kg (359 lbs) CA model: 164 kg (361 lbs.)

GSX-R 1000:
Overall Length: 2045mm (80.5 in)
Overall Width: 720mm (28.3 in.)
Overall Height: 1130mm (44.5 in.)
Seat Height: 810mm (31.9 in.)
Ground Clearance: 125mm (4.9 in.)
Wheelbase: 1415mm (55.7 in.)
Dry Weight: 172 kg (379 lbs.)
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Size won't really make a difference. All Suzuki Supersports are basically the exact same size. Only the 1000 is a tiny bit wider due to the bigger exhausts on both sides. Seat height is exactly the same for 600, 750 and 1000, and if you think you need more power because you are tall, I don't think you have tested a 600 yet. Rev it up and it IS fast... Other than that, I think a 750 is a good choice as well.

GSX-R 600:
Overall Length: 2040mm (80.3 in.)
Overall Width: 715mm (28.1 in.)
Overall Height: 1125mm (44.3 in.)
Seat Height: 810mm (31.9 in.)
Ground Clearance: 130mm (5.1 in.)
Wheelbase: 1400mm (55.1 in.)
Dry Weight: 161 kg (354 lbs) CA Spec: 162 kg (357 lbs.)

GSX-R 750:
Overall Length: 2040mm (80.3 in.)
Overall Width: 715mm (28.1 in.)
Overall Height: 1125mm (44.3 in.)
Seat Height: 810mm (31.9 in.)
Ground Clearance: 130mm (5.1 in.)
Wheelbase: 1400mm (55.1 in.)
Dry Weight: 163 kg (359 lbs) CA model: 164 kg (361 lbs.)

GSX-R 1000:
Overall Length: 2045mm (80.5 in)
Overall Width: 720mm (28.3 in.)
Overall Height: 1130mm (44.5 in.)
Seat Height: 810mm (31.9 in.)
Ground Clearance: 125mm (4.9 in.)
Wheelbase: 1415mm (55.7 in.)
Dry Weight: 172 kg (379 lbs.)



i really didnt know there were that close in size..thats very interesting.. i was looking at a 99 srad 750 with 14k for 4k...i know about the 2nd gear problem it could have but i really like the srad's...specially this one..its the black and gold 750.....
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post #79 of 137 (permalink) Old 03-08-2007, 05:32 PM
 
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i am curious as I am about 6"4 250 and i was planning on purchasing a 07 gsx-r 600 to start off with since my real only experience is dirtbiking.

would that be a good fit for myself (size+power wise)? looking at certain specs it seems the body size is the same as the 750 according to the suzuki website

was planning to trade up once i get comfertable on the 600. good move or not?

id like to stay with suzuki of course
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post #80 of 137 (permalink) Old 03-27-2007, 11:17 AM
 
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Good info for a newbe

There has been a lot of good insight given here in this thread. I too am looking for my first bike and thought the 750 would give me something to grow into, but not after reading all the opinions here. I have no real riding experance and will use my bike for transportation. If you need to get to work, might as well get there on a good bike. The 600 is looking better and better now. Thanks for everyones .02
Keep it coming.
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