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Torque Wrench Recommendation

As I am now knee deep in rebuilding a bike I am in need of a torque wrench to make things right. I have a beam style 3/8 drive wrench but due to the scope of work I do at my full time job have never had a need to add a good torque wrench to my tools. With different types and manufacturers what have you had and what do you prefer? I am willing to spend a bit of money on it if it is good quality but don't have tons of cash to throw at it. Let me know what you suggest given that I will be torquing every nut and bolt on a 1989 GSXR 1100 from a frame up build.

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I have a Kobalt that came from Lowes.
Its 20-100 ft lbs with 3/8 drive.
Its the click type and it works fine.
I think it was about $70.

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Thanks WB. I do have a Lowes close to here, so might be an option. Lowes up here is also carrying Crafstmen tools now which are my favorite. Unfortunately, up here we don't have NEAR the selection you do south of the border, I don't recall seeing one in the store. I will have to go back and check. You have had good results with the click type? there is also a beep type correct?

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I've had Craftsman 3/8" and 1/2" beam types for decades. Several years back I bought this and it's all I use now. The web site says +/-4% but the instruction sheet says +/-2%. Don't know what that's about. My biggest complaint is that the memory only stores five torques. As I recall they periodically have a 20% or so discount, or maybe it's for first time buyers. The lead review is mine.
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Harbor freight torque wrench! You might Laugh normally I would however they come with a no questions asked life time warranty and are probably the best bang for your buck! Technically a torque wrench should be recalibrated every so many uses or over so much time, instead take it back and exchange it . If you have a harbor freight not far from you it’s not a bad idea especially since it sounds like after this project you won’t use it much.... That being said I am a Milwaukee tool nut they recently came out with a digital powered head torque wrench that looks really cool but it’s super expensive .
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Thanks WB. I do have a Lowes close to here, so might be an option. Lowes up here is also carrying Crafstmen tools now which are my favorite. Unfortunately, up here we don't have NEAR the selection you do south of the border, I don't recall seeing one in the store. I will have to go back and check. You have had good results with the click type? there is also a beep type correct?
I have never heard of a beeping torque wrench.
Sounds like witchcraft to me.
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I've had Craftsman 3/8" and 1/2" beam types for decades. Several years back I bought this and it's all I use now. The web site says +/-4% but the instruction sheet says +/-2%. Don't know what that's about. My biggest complaint is that the memory only stores five torques. As I recall they periodically have a 20% or so discount, or maybe it's for first time buyers. The lead review is mine.
Craftsman is my preferred brand, some of my stuff has been in the family for decades. Klein is pretty much all I use for electrical. I haven't seen Eastwood here, will check them out, thanks.

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Harbor freight torque wrench! You might Laugh normally I would however they come with a no questions asked life time warranty and are probably the best bang for your buck! Technically a torque wrench should be recalibrated every so many uses or over so much time, instead take it back and exchange it . If you have a harbor freight not far from you its not a bad idea especially since it sounds like after this project you wont use it much.... That being said I am a Milwaukee tool nut they recently came out with a digital powered head torque wrench that looks really cool but its super expensive .
I don't have Harbour Freight up here in the Great White North. We have Princess Auto which is about the same I think, they carry pretty much everything you could think of at very low prices but 90% of it is junk.

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I have never heard of a beeping torque wrench.
Sounds like witchcraft to me.
It very well may be WB, but then again, how much faster could we make these things if we mix in a little of the Dark Arts? Huh, might be worth a shot! A few extra horsepower never hurts right? It is Halloween after all!
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I have a Snap-on 3/8 drive, and a Mac 1/2 drive. Both of them were RIDICULOUSLY expensive, but have held up for almost 20 years. Both are the click style. I have heard good things about Harbour Freight click style, and also Kobalt. I have a couple Kobalt ratchets, and they work very well, and seem pretty tough. Unless you are ordering online, your options are a little narrowed to what is available local to you. As long as it is accurate within reason, roll with it. It really isn't a tool most people will use often. After this project, you will likely not use it again for a few years, right?
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Yeah, you are probably right. Aside from pulling wheels on and off it wouldn't get much use.

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I've been wondering about a torque wrench myself for a while... I have a Craftsman which is probably as old as I am that has never been recalibrated. Never thought of buying a harbor freight one and returning it periodically, that's a pretty good idea...
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Go on Sears.com. right now they have the Craftsman 1/2" Digital 25-250ft lbs on sale for $73 down from 169. This is one of the ones I use. Had for 3 years now.


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Go on Sears.com. right now they have the Craftsman 1/2" Digital 25-250ft lbs on sale for $73 down from 169. This is one of the ones I use. Had for 3 years now.


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100% Craftsmen would be the way to go. Sears Canada folded and Craftsmen is hard to find. Lowes started selling the brand but don't have a great selection of mechanics tools. Maybe the US stores will ship up here.

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Go on Sears.com. right now they have the Craftsman 1/2" Digital 25-250ft lbs on sale for $73 down from 169. This is one of the ones I use. Had for 3 years now.


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100% Craftsmen would be the way to go. Sears Canada folded and Craftsmen is hard to find. Lowes started selling the brand but don't have a great selection of mechanics tools. Maybe the US stores will ship up here.
be careful buying craftsman at Lowe’s , most sears went belly up and as far as I’m concerned craftsman did also! Stanley black and decker bought the name craftsman 10 yrs ago how ever it was long drown out process of who made what and who got profits of what and how much , long story short, the craftsman sold at Lowe’s and most other retailers that sell craftsman is now made by Stanley (not sears) and the quality is not the same and the warranty is not really a lifetime warranty. Stanley bought the name and changed the tools for the worst , if you pay attn you will notice the packages changed on tools the tool boxes changed . You can still find left overs of the older sears made tools sears.com or a sears store if you can find one, ACE hardware is expensive but they still carry a lot of older made tools. I’m not sure if lowes carry’s a torque wrench but I would not buy a craftsman from Lowe’s unless I was in a pinch! I would look for a kobalt at Lowe’s if I wanted a hand tool, not only are they made with better quality than the current craftsman but a lot of kobalt tools have been going on sale and on clearance due to Lowe’s phasing them out in store to make room for the new craftsman.
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Yes if Craftsman is in grey plastic it's the new China stuff, if it is in black plastic it's a great chance its the older US made tools. 100% right above on ACE having the older tools they move less volume. To the best of my knowledge the digital torque wrenches still should be American as they phased that line out when they merged.

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Awesome, thank you. I will have to do some closer checking when I am at Lowes. They do not have Craftsmen torque wrenches...at least at my store.

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I've never been a big fan of Craftsman tools. Their ergonomics have always been really rough. When they came out with the "Professional" series of wrenches, I bought a set. Had to use that warranty a LOT. They just weren't as tough as the old rough cut wrenches. I have always had great experiences with S&K tools. They have made very good quality hand tools. Though I haven't bought any in over a decade, they may not be so tough anymore. Too many brands go cheap these days. Hate to sound like my old man but, they just don't make things like they used too...
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A torque wrench is one of those things you want to buy once, cry once. Get a 3/8" Snap-On or Matco. That'll do most of the stuff that needs to be accurate. Then get a cheap 1/2" Pittsburgh brand from Harbor Freight for the high range stuff like axles. I've got one and had it checked and it's surprisingly accurate. The key is to turn them back to their lowest setting for storage.

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The beam Torque wrenches are the most accurate, followed by the click type. The least accurate but easiest to use is the digital ones which beep or vibrate when you get to the torque limit.. Check your local pawn shop and you can find all of them fairly cheep. All torque wrenches have a + and - % which tells you how precise it is. I have both the click type and the digital Kobalt ones, and they both work well. I have a digital sanp on at work, and a couple of Pittsburgh click types, and they are all close enough in accuracy that it doesn't matter to me which one I use. Pick what you like and use it. Torque values on most things have fairly wide margins to be in, and those are typically greater than the variance in accuracy of any torque wrench brand.
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Accuracy specs vary from manufacturer to manufacturer but in general I see this:
Beam 2%
Electronic/digital 2%
Click 4% (sometimes have different accuracy for CW & CCW)

Decades ago Snap-On sold a line of dial type wrenches that were 1%. I think that they're long gone. This might be one, but I'm not sure about the FU.
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Would have thought beam wrenches were the most inaccurate. I suppose no moving parts and easy to calibrate. I do have a beam wrench but honestly don't know what the scale is. I will probably still get another wrench.

Also...if I do decide to bundle up and wrench a bit (this is Canada in winter) am I going to get reasonably accurate results torquing bolts when the temp is in the teens F? I am figuring torque specs are likely for 70F and it is 50+ degrees colder than that right now. My worry is that aluminum parts are smaller and if torqued will be tighter when they heat up and expand? Maybe I am over thinking this...I am putting a bike together not a lunar lander.

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^These quys say don't worry about it, but I'd still be inclined to bring it indoors or somewhere where it's at least half warm.

Another issue is that the torque wrench may be affected by the cold. It's going to depend on how the elastic modulus of the steel in the wrench changes with temperature. I don't think it will be much but I'm too lazy to look into it.
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Ha! Too lazy to look into it! I like an honest man. Yeah, I will likely snug things up and torque them properly on a warmer day.

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Temperature effects everything.
As an example liquid propane expands or contracts 17 times as much as water.
I dont know how aluminum compares to steel but it may be significant.

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17 times? Did not know that. I do know that it liquefies at -44F and theoretically you could pour it into a bowl and it would stay there...I don't intend to test that theory.

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17 times? Did not know that. I do know that it liquefies at -44F and theoretically you could pour it into a bowl and it would stay there...I don't intend to test that theory.
Ive squirted it out at about -20 and it looks like water on a slow boil.
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I thought that I had made a mistake when I used the word squirted and I wondered which one of you degenerates would pick up on it first.
You doubted I would be the first to notice?!?
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I thought that I had made a mistake when I used the word squirted and I wondered which one of you degenerates would pick up on it first.
As in most things, it is just a matter of time WB.
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