smartest thing i've ever heard from a new rider :thumbup:highrollerm85 said:I am thinking of buying a motorcycle and would like to be able to purchase a GSXR 750 when I am prepaired. I don't think i'd get the 1000 because it would just be to powerful. How long would I need to practice on a newb bike bike before I move on to the GSXR750. Would it be a good idea to practice on 2 newb bikes- like a ex250 cc first and than an ex500? I have seen plenty of videos on the net of people falling off of sport bikes and I am not looking to kill my self! Sportbikes look like a lot of fun to me. I just want to make sure I'm ready for one when I buy it. I'm 20 and around 5,10 and weigh 190+. I have no experiance riding motorcycles.
Chango said:Riders with mediocre skills on 600's can outrun morons on 1000's all day long. I do it all the time at the track. And one guy I know rides an SV650 and if we were in the same group (I'm in intermediate and he's advanced) he would be lapping me several times per session. Just another case of the rider, not the machine... If you can't pass me with a 600, you sure as hell won't pass me with a 1000. Unless the straight is more than half a mile long, I will always stay in front of you because I can get around the turns faster and I can get ALL of my power down much much sooner on a 600. I may be shifting like crazy, but I kind of like shifting. If I didn't like to shift gears I would go out and buy a car with an automatic or something.
the whole point of his is...well not everyone is freakin' experience. Just because your on a 1k doesn't mean you'll be faster. Do you think he'll be faster on a 1k, faster than how he's riding on his 600 right now? Maybe, maybe not. Some people are jumping on too big of bikes, while if they started small, they would be faster. I know if i prob jumped to a 1k now, i probably wouldn't be as fast as i am right now.SLAKKA said:morons huh..
well .. its only common sense that someone w/ experience on a track can take on someone on a 1K bike if there on a 600. but put an experienced rider on the 1K and dude you will never compete. them new 1K bikes almost weigh the same as lower cc gixxers.
SILVERK5 said:I love reading ya BallHawk... You always make me smile with the way you put things in perspective...And you are a true biker, that's for sure.
As for bike size, I have a GSX-R1000k5 and I regret buying it... To powerful. I like to beat the shit out of a vehicle, make the engine scream, hit the rev limiter, that kind of thing. Can't really do that with the 1000 with it's 100mph 1st gear redline... I spend more time looking for the cops than actually enjoying myself... Should have bought the 600 or the 750... Plus it would have been cheaper (purchase price, insurance, etc).
i think i made it plain and simple. If people can drive with a geo metro around n the street for many years...then you don't need the power of a liter bike for the "street" as in commuting. Sportbikes aren't very practical for the street to begin with, even a 600 is too much for the street. Which means.....plenty of friggin' power for the street. When rollin' around on the street you don't need all 180hp. How much percentage do you think your really using just to comute? If it helps, a v-twin has the most "usable" power for the street. Very friendly.lukeszabo01 said:Not really sure you answered my question, all you did is beat up on having a sports bike on the road. Well, unfortunately, I really like sports bikes and how they feel/ride and will not get a cruiser or a scooter as I don't like the seating position and if I did I would stick to my car.
But I do appreciate your feedback; no matter how limited it was in relation to my questions and will take it in to consideration.
I also hope that others can help out with my questions, and as for 250's, they just have crap all down low and I have been in many situations in my short time where that is a problem and potentially dangerous and is the reason why my question regarding low down to mid range torque and why that is a absolute requirement for me.
Anyways, thanks again and I hope more people can help me out.
I wasn't trying to sway you away. Wasn't trying to tell you to stay on the 250 (i can understand why you want something else now) There is a big difference between a 600 and a 1000. A lot of people use the excuse of getting a 1000 cause they need it to commute. Please don't become one of those people.lukeszabo01 said:Thank you, much more useful information here, as I am sure you have figured I am hell bent on a sports bike, so I guess I should look at a V-Twin as a possibility due to more down low and smoother delivery.
Thanks for the input, I am just at the point of test riding, and I wish the problems that I have faced were caused by myself, because atleast then I could do something to change them.
Thanks for the help though, I very much appreciate it. Any advice is always helpful, like I said, I am a dirt bike boy and there is a lot of difference between the two.
Hmmm.. not sure if thats entirely true...BallHawk3 said:But as for low end power, all bikes lack it cause they are high reving motors (yes some rev higher than others) but compared to cars, they lack torque, and the torque compared to the hp they produce is low. Prob with any bike, you will always wish for something else on certain situations.