pmhallum said:I'm NO expert, but I'd think that if the AMA riders are using the same frames we were with there 200+ hp bikes and you've not seen any real problems it may have just been a fluke.. though a damned shitty one.
What's the name of that solvent?? The rain season is coming. Also....any of you guys who have had k5 frame trouble, would rain have been a factor?Snakes600 said:I can't believe this is being discussed again. Doesn't everyone know by now that if you ride the new gixxer in the rain the frame will oxidize at the welds. Every service I have the dealer spread a special penetrating solvent on the welds to clean the oxidation and seal the welds for another 3000 miles.
You've said take the bike to a local place for an x-ray. I didn't know there were x-ray machines out there that could x-ray frames. Where exactly should I go to get my frame x-rayed.Engloid said:It's doubtful that you could look at your frame and see the defect that this frame had...since it's INTERNAL porosity. It would only show in an xray or destructive testing.
If any of you are concerned about your frames, you can probably find a local place that will xray yours. With this being a fairly common concern, maybe the dealer or Suzuki would spring for the cost...especially if you tell them that you will post the results in public. If they don't want to pay, I'd PROMISE them that I'd post the results, and ask them if they were scared.
That said, if I did have my frame xrayed, and it has excessive porosity, I'd definitely do what it took to have them replace it.
Of course, a crash can be the cause of this, and the frame may have never broken if the crash hadn't happened...BUT... It's also possible that the frame breaks in a crash and your leg gets impaled on it, rather than having a frame that will bend because the weld's strong enough to hold up. Consider roll cages in cars. There's restrictions in many racing associations on what parts of it can be welded and what parts must be bent. This is partially because they dont want crappy welds to break and allow the pipe to impale the car occupants.
Typically, when a weld is tested with a tensile pull (pulled apart till it breaks), the sample is rejected if it breaks IN the weld. It should break next to the weld since the weld should be the strongest part of the piece. Obviously, that wasn't the case with this frame.
In short...even with the crash, the frame should have bent, not broken. There's no excuse for having a weld like what is posted above.