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http://www.michelinmotorcycle.com/index.cfm?event=pilotroad2

Basically, there are three road tires Michelin makes for sportbikes, and sport touring bikes:

1. Pilot Power - A uniform medium compound tire that is used by many if not most riders on this site. Sometimes used as a de-facto "standard" when comparing other road sport tires.

2. Pilot Power 2CT - A version of the Pilot Power with a similar profile, but a different tread pattern and a softer compound rubber on the sides, for improved cornering grip. Many people here run this tire as well.

2. Pilot Road 2 - A version of the PP 2CT that is identical in profile and appearance, except it has the standard Pilot Power medium compound rubber on the sides, and a harder compound rubber center. This tire is primarily intended for heavier sport touring bikes, however, it is, for all intents and purposes, like a standard Pilot Power in terms of cornering performance and it is available in standard sportbike tire sizes. Some sportbike riders are even using this tire on the track with good success.

I run standard Pilot Powers on my gsxr 750, with a mix of commute, aggressive twisty riding, and track. I've been running Pilot Road 2's on my BMW 1200RT, with a mix of commute, aggressive twisty riding, and yes it's been to the track once. The 1200RT is close enough in performance to that of a sportbike to be a good comparison. My first and current set has approximately 12,000 miles on it.

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I cannot outride this tire on the street, nor can I outride it on the track either, but the RT's cornering clearance and linked brakes do place a bit of a limitation. Initially, when new the handling is a bit squirrely in a straight line, similar to that of a new standard PP before it is scrubbed in. It's ready for aggressive riding with about 20 miles of riding. The previous set of tires I had on the bike were Continental Road Attacks, which I thought were fine tires. But even turns where I had a slight wheel slip with the Conti RA's were rock solid with this tire. The profile is sharp, and turn in is quick.

This tire seems to like higher pressures, at least with this bike and rider combination. I run 38 F 42 R on the street (yes, BMW's recommendation, it is a heavy bike) and about 34 F 34 R seemed to work well on the track for me. So far, at 12,000 miles, it hasn't begun to form much of a noticeable flat spot on the rear. I got 10,000 out of the OEM set of Road Attacks, and this will go at least to 15,000 if not longer.

I haven't tried this tire yet on the gsxr, but I may well just put a set on next go around. I'm pretty confident that I'm not going to be able to outride this tire on the street either, on the gsxr (how many of us can, on modern road sport tires? Not too many, and I think many of our more experienced track riders will attest to that.)

I would not hesitate to recommend this tire for someone that does primarily street riding, particularly long trips and commutes, and is looking for a longer lasting alternative than some of the standard tire choices that are available. The only reservation I might have about it is straight line wet-weather traction when mounted on a sportbike, since it does have a harder compound center and it is intended primarily for bikes pushing 500+ pounds of dry weight. That said, other BMW riders that have used this tire say it has excellent wet weather traction compared with other similar sport-touring tires.
 

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Ya know, I have always wondered about these road 2's. I ride with a guy who is super fast on them with his old ass 84 750 factory turbo and he gets 8,000 or so miles out of a set. My 002 Bridgestones will be done (just like all tires I have tried) by 3000 miles.

I think it is funny how so many of us get caught up in the placebo effect of the latest and greatest GP tech that we feel the need to have the softest most track worthy tire to ride the streets with. If I did go to the Road 2's and low sided you know what I would blam.... Yup, the tires not me. :rofl:

Maybe one day I will wise up and triple my mileage and save some coin!

Thanks for the review!
 

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perfect write up. wanna bet there will be a Michelin pp tire question within the next 2-3 days? lol. i am running the road 2 on my 750 and LOVE them so far. looks like i could get 8,000 out of em.
 

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Do you feel that the wet weather performance of the PP 2CT is sub par to that of the standard PP? I have been in the wet with my PP and have had zero issues. I am going to assume that the tread being the same on the Road 2 as the 2CT that it's not as efficient as treading water. Combined with the stiffer compound meant for a heavier bike, my not be the combination I want. Opinions?
 

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I can't say for sure about the Pilot Road 2's wet weather performance, but I have the Bridgestone BT-021 (direct competitor to the PR2) rear on my R6 and I have not had a single problem out of it in terms of wet weather performance, including riding on iced-over bridges.
 

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Thanks for the review Mister Tee. Back home I had about a 40 minute ride to and from work and my bike was my main mode of transportation. I've been looking at different tires to put on when I get back and I think I'll be investing in a set of Road 2's now to see if they'll help me get some extra mileage between tire changes.
 

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Do you feel that the wet weather performance of the PP 2CT is sub par to that of the standard PP? I have been in the wet with my PP and have had zero issues. I am going to assume that the tread being the same on the Road 2 as the 2CT that it's not as efficient as treading water. Combined with the stiffer compound meant for a heavier bike, my not be the combination I want. Opinions?
i ride in all kinds of weather and have had no issues in the rain what so ever with road 2's
 

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Do you feel that the wet weather performance of the PP 2CT is sub par to that of the standard PP? I have been in the wet with my PP and have had zero issues. I am going to assume that the tread being the same on the Road 2 as the 2CT that it's not as efficient as treading water. Combined with the stiffer compound meant for a heavier bike, my not be the combination I want. Opinions?
Unfortunately I can't comment personally on the tire's wet weather performance, but Mr. Dangles has experience with it, and on a 750. I suspect that being a road touring tire, the tread pattern is probably geared more toward wet weather riding even though it appears to be the same as a PP 2CT. Weight wise, 1 up riding on an RT class bike is like riding two up on a gsxr (with a very heavy chick), and all of the reports I read is that is one of the best wet weather tires out there for that bike.
 

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I know this is an old thread, but figured some might be interested in my results with the Pilot Road 2.

I had a Pilot Power 2ct front tire, and Pilot Road 2 rear instaled on my 05 750, shortly after leaving home on a 8621 mile cross country ride. Wet tracton the few times I got caught in the rain (including when I rode through the Dragon) felt good. The only time the rear tire has spun, was when i intentionally tried to make it do so testing traction in the rain. With sensible rifing for the conditions it has been good. Here's how the Pilot Road 2 looks after approximately 7800 miles of mostly straight highway cruising (within 5-10mph of the speed limits mostly).
 

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I just put a set on my bike, and did a 456 mile run on Arkansas back roads. I have full confidence in these tires. I ride aggressively on the curvy back roads and these tires peformed excellent, not one clitch and excellent feedback. If you need more traction from a tire you better be on a track with race tires, they are that good. I ate the stock 015 rear tire up in 3000 miles. If these last twice as long as the other tires I've used they are well worth the money spent. I know it is hard to trust what someone says that you don't know, but do some research and you'll find that what I'm saying is true. These tires will be the only street sportbike tire I will ever use until Michelin comes out with a new replacement.
 

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I just put a set on my bike, and did a 456 mile run on Arkansas back roads. I have full confidence in these tires. I ride aggressively on the curvy back roads and these tires peformed excellent, not one clitch and excellent feedback. If you need more traction from a tire you better be on a track with race tires, they are that good. I ate the stock 015 rear tire up in 3000 miles. If these last twice as long as the other tires I've used they are well worth the money spent. I know it is hard to trust what someone says that you don't know, but do some research and you'll find that what I'm saying is true. These tires will be the only street sportbike tire I will ever use until Michelin comes out with a new replacement.
+1 , I had similar experience with the PR2
but the abit expensive for the 190 set
 

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I have Road 2's on my 05 600 and wires just now started showing ~6600 miles. I am sure they would have lasted way longer but those miles are almost all western NC twisties, WOT take-off's from redlights, wheelies and top speed runs. My bike barely EVER sees normal driving conditions. Even while dragging peg I could not get the tires to slip. I already have another Road 2 rear on the way. Highly recommended tires!
 

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Funny that this thread should come up, but I'm now riding a Kawasaki Concours C14. The stock tires on the bike were Bridgestone B21's. They handled and gripped okay, and wet weather performance was fine too. They just didn't last very long. Rear went out at about 10K, I might have been able to get another 1-2 K out of it but once the flatness sets in I've seen tires go from ok looking to treads in a few hundred miles and I had some long rides coming up.

I replaced them with PR2's. The C14 uses a 190 rear. Handling was MUCH better, but then I was comparing an new set of tires to an old set. The bike handles very solid in the twisties, excellent traction, no slipping whatsoever and the C14 is a heavy bike. I have not had a chance to test the wet weather traction yet on this bike, but they had excellent traction on the RT in wet weather riding.

By the way the C14 has both traction control and ABS. The traction control has kicked in before on slick roads during hard launches. It has not kicked in yet under the same conditions running the PR2's.
 
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