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ok guys so I’m new here . I have an 02 GSXR 1000 so I was riding it today was running fine all of a sudden it just died . As if I hit the kill switch . Got it home started checking things looking for the obvious all connections seem to be made nothing loose . Checked kick stand switch it looked to be ok also the TOS . When I filp the run switch to run I can hear the fuel pump come on which is new . I pulled one of the coils and tested it aswell and I not getting any spark.i can take the battery cables loose and then connect them and get fire for a split second. Any help would be greatly appreciated .
 

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ok guys so I’m new here . I have an 02 GSXR 1000 so I was riding it today was running fine all of a sudden it just died . As if I hit the kill switch . Got it home started checking things looking for the obvious all connections seem to be made nothing loose . Checked kick stand switch it looked to be ok also the TOS . When I filp the run switch to run I can hear the fuel pump come on which is new . I pulled one of the coils and tested it aswell and I not getting any spark.i can take the battery cables loose and then connect them and get fire for a split second. Any help would be greatly appreciated .
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Is "CHEC" showing in the temp window?
 

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I'm assuming you mean that it is flashing "FI" in the temp window when not in the dealer mode?

I'm trying to confirm that the ECM is powered up and happy. Good signs are that it is sending the FI fault as well as things like the fuel pump cycling and secondaries doing their dance. Can I assume this is happening?

Have you checked the fuses?
 

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Yes sir from what I can tell ever thing is getting some type of signal . The thing that puzzles me is it was running great and then it was like I hit the kill switch . First thing I thought was the kick stand switch so I checked that and seem to be good . Reason being is that it’s aftermarket and I know sometimes things like that don’t fit properly. But then I disconnected the battery let it set a few minutes Reconnected it hit the start button and it had fire for a split second and then goes right back to no fire .almost like some type of safety feature malfunction
 

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Put 2-3 drops of fuel in each intake. Does it crank, fire, and die?
 

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Since you checked for spark and only got one spark than none, my guess would be the crank position sensor is the issue. Either there are metal bits on it or it has failed.

There have been 4-5 instances over the years of bikes not restarting when hot, no codes, and it was the CKP. Personally, I helped a friend that had his bike at a shop for months due to no spark. After all the testing we were down to the CKP (no codes either). When we pulled the cover we found that one of the CKP mounting screws had come out and was stuck to the sensor. Put the screw back in and the bike fired right up.
 

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Ok so I can try that however I did pull the plugs and spin it over there is no spark so I don’t think it’s a fuel issue.
 

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ok guys so I been messing around with this bike today . I pulled the side cover for the CKP didn’t see anything obvious as far as damage or debris. Check over all the connections again and still nothing other than when I cycle the key and run switch it does fire about twice then back to nothing .
 

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Did you wipe off the face of the sensor? Just a thought.
 

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There are tests of the CKP in the service manual including a ground check and a peak voltage check.

On the friends bike I mentioned earlier, we did the tests before we opened the engine and they passed. We took the cover off because we were out of options.

If it was a wiring problem, you should be getting a fault code.

I hate to throw a part at it without knowing that it is faulty but I think you are down to the CKP sensor or the ECM. The ECMs that I've read about going bad also don't trigger the fuel pump. Your ECM seems to be doing everything else fine so that is a good sign.

The new part is not terrible at less than $150 but they also used it in a ton of other bikes so you might luck out and find a used one you could at least swap in to diagnose.

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Ok so I’m like you I dont want to throw parts in hopes of something sticking. I did fine a used one that has been checked and was on a running bike I spent 20$ on so maybe it will work lol Thanks for everyone’s input and ideas it all has been helpful will let you guys know the outcome !
 

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If that fixes it, we need to revisit the older post. I'm wondering if there's a bug in the on-board diag system. A crank sensor not putting out the right signal timing with the cam sensor should throw a code. The other guy also didn't have a code. This is the description of the code. Not sure I can interpret what they mean by "more than 4 seconds". What about two second hiccups?
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@Chuckster I forgot about the 4 second crank time. I don't know we every held the starter on that long on my friends bike.

Remember about a year ago we had two people that their bike would not start when hot? No code and everything tested fine. Both were resolved with a new CKP.
 
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Ok guys got the CPK swapped out and still have the same issue no fire .
That sucks.

Have to you cranked it for 4+ seconds to see if a code presents itself as Chuck mentioned?
 
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