Red loctite

Cuest · Apr 9, 2009

Hello all,

So here is a funny little story. My friend just bought a katna, added a few things to it. He asked me what was best to use to make sure the screws did not loosen up. I told him to use blue loctite or blue thread locker. So he went to the local automotive shop and somehow the sales person convinced him that RED was better!! WTF? Needless to say he needs to remove one of his fairings and he has red loctite on the screws.

So.....how the heck can he get it off? I never used that stuff I use blue. Any suggestions / recommendations?

Thanks

JohnPaul · Apr 9, 2009

i would try penetrating oil, then use a small hammer to tap on the allen bolts with like a metal punch or something to try and knock the thread sealer loose before trying to back the bolt out. other then that i dont know.

Cuest · Apr 9, 2009

Thanks. Anyone else have other suggestions?

MJ23Gixxer · Apr 9, 2009

no suggestions but its for sure gonna break it if u try to twist them out..

zabrow187 · Apr 9, 2009

Impact wrench.

2>4 · Apr 9, 2009

Laser vision.

JETMECHANIC · Apr 9, 2009

Off hand I don't know of anything that will dissolve red Loctite after it has cured. The only way I know of to disassemble it after it has cured is with heat. I built a motor for a race car and used red loctite on the mains and rod bolts ended up having to pull the rods back apart. I didn't heat the rod bolts before I loosened the nuts and had to replace all the rod bolts and nuts. It striped the threads and they were SPS Grade 8 bolts. So I would try everything before just trying loosen them up. JMO

pilot3 · Apr 10, 2009

Jetmechanic is spot on! Red loctite is specifically marketed as to be removed with heat, blue with hand tools. Green with heat too. I always wondered why the blue comes in a red bottle. Seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

Also I think red is for fasteners 3/8" and above, so waaaaaay strong on the smaller stuff.

Cuest · Apr 11, 2009

great. thanks guys. I'll let him know.

mxdfx75 · Apr 11, 2009

whats the chances of drilling the head and removing the bolt out the back....sure you gotta be careful but might be the only option...

JETMECHANIC · Apr 11, 2009

You might try drilling all the way through the center not nescessarily drilling off the heads, then putting an easyout in and heating that and hopefully the heat transfer will be sufficient enough to let you get them out. Just a thought.

JETMECHANIC · Apr 11, 2009

You might try drilling all the way through the center not nescessarily drilling off the heads, then putting an easyout in and heating that and hopefully the heat transfer will be sufficient enough to let you get them out. Just a thought.

gixxerfool · Apr 11, 2009

I think I remember reading somewhere that the red needs to be heated to 500+ degrees to soften. You'll melt the fairings way before that. If you can try what JM recommended and instead of heating the EZ out try shooting a small hand torch flame down there. The one I use has done small fasteners like that. GL

cnazar3 · Apr 11, 2009

first off REALLY NICE JUGGIES RIGHT ABOVE THESE WORDS. second off you might want to give PB BLASTER a change i dono if it will penetrate red loctite but i know it does eat away at alot of other stuff. if u do give it a shot. spray it all around the area and let it sit for like 15 minutes b4 u try to remove bolt. good luck

JETMECHANIC · Apr 12, 2009

You know you might just luck out. When you drill out the center have your allen wrench handy cause you might just create enough heat to melt the loctite. But if your not quick enough it will harden and your back to square one. Good Luck. Let us know how it works out.

Cuest · Apr 12, 2009

Gotta love this site. Thanks guys.

cnazar3 · Apr 12, 2009

did u get it out and if so which method worked best

flyin low · Apr 12, 2009

JETMECHANIC is dead on... I did the same thing cuz I got in a rush and didn't want to go get the blue when I had the red right here... So long story short I ended up drilling them all the way through and the heat from drilling got them hot enuff to get them out... but you HAVE to be QUICK! Or it hardens right back up.
Good luck! and ALL WAYS USE BLUE:infrandom

Cuest · Apr 13, 2009

cnazar3 said:
did u get it out and if so which method worked best

No we have not worked on his bike. He is waiting on some parts. hopefully this weekend. I will let you all know what worked once we try it.

Thanks

skygixxer600 · Apr 13, 2009

wow, i feel bad for him. I'd probably go down to the auto shop that sold him the red lock tite and freak out on the guy who sold it to him.

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