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WOWWW!!! Thats so messed up! I think the government should politically slap berkeley across the face for a move like this. its favortism, and protest against the wrong people. they are just guys doing their job and if they have an issue they should take it to the president. I dont agree with the war either but this is ridiculous!!!
it would only be shocking to people not familiar with Berkeley or even San Francisco. they are the biggest socialist liberal cesspool cities in the country. i don't find it shocking in the slightest, but rather expected.
I understand that California is a liberal sesspool, but being a liberal myself, this is just ludacris. That's just going to far, not to mention the marines dying for an "unjust war" that are being "mass-murdered" are doing so willingly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at this time our military is 100% VOLUNTEER.
a little update, and i hope they cut off all money to that city :
WASHINGTON — U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., says the City of Berkeley, Calif., no longer deserves federal money.
DeMint was angered after learning that the Berkeley City Council voted this week to tell the U.S. Marine Corps to remove its recruiting station from the city's downtown.
"This is a slap in the face to all brave service men and women and their families," DeMint said in a prepared statement. "The First Amendment gives the City of Berkeley the right to be idiotic, but from now on they should do it with their own money."
"If the city can’t show respect for the Marines that have fought, bled and died for their freedom, Berkeley should not be receiving special taxpayer-funded handouts," he added.
In the meantime, a senior Marine official tells FOX News that the Marine office in Berkeley isn't going anywhere.
"We understand things are different there, but some people just don't get it. This is a part of the military machine that gives them the right to do what they do, but what they are doing is extreme," the official said
DeMint said he will draft legislation to rescind any earmarks dedicated for the City of Berkeley in the recently passed appropriations bill — which his office tallied to value about $2.1 million. He said that any money taken back would be transferred to the Marines.
DeMint's office provided a preliminary list of items that would be subject to his proposal:
— $975,000 for the University of California at Berkeley, for the Matsui Center for Politics and Public Service, which may include establishing an endowment, and for cataloguing the papers of Congressman Robert Matsui.
— $750,000 for the Berkeley/Albana ferry service.
— $243,000 for the Chez Panisse Foundation, for a school lunch initiative to integrate lessons about wellness, sustainability and nutrition into the academic curriculum.
— $94,000 for a Berkeley public safety interoperability program.
— $87,000 for the Berkeley Unified School District, nutrition education program.
The Marine official, speaking with FOX News on Friday, said Marine Commandant Gen. James Conway scoffed at the news, but there are no plans for to protest the City Council's decisions. There are definitely no plans to move the recruiting station either.
"To actually put something into law that encourages the disruption of a federal office is ridiculous. They are not going to kick a federal office out of its rightful place there, and this is not going to discourage those young patriots who want to be Marines," the official said.
The Berkeley City Council this week voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and "if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests," according to The Associated Press.
The council also voted to explore whether a city anti-discrimination law applies to the Marines, with a focus on the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy that prevents open homosexuality in the military.
The council also voted to give the antiwar group Code Pink a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week for six months, as well as a protest permit.
The Marine recruiting office in Berkeley has been open for about one year, but has been the subject of recent protests by Code Pink members.
WASHINGTON — U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., says the City of Berkeley, Calif., no longer deserves federal money.
DeMint was angered after learning that the Berkeley City Council voted this week to tell the U.S. Marine Corps to remove its recruiting station from the city's downtown.
"This is a slap in the face to all brave service men and women and their families," DeMint said in a prepared statement. "The First Amendment gives the City of Berkeley the right to be idiotic, but from now on they should do it with their own money."
"If the city can’t show respect for the Marines that have fought, bled and died for their freedom, Berkeley should not be receiving special taxpayer-funded handouts," he added.
In the meantime, a senior Marine official tells FOX News that the Marine office in Berkeley isn't going anywhere.
"We understand things are different there, but some people just don't get it. This is a part of the military machine that gives them the right to do what they do, but what they are doing is extreme," the official said
DeMint said he will draft legislation to rescind any earmarks dedicated for the City of Berkeley in the recently passed appropriations bill — which his office tallied to value about $2.1 million. He said that any money taken back would be transferred to the Marines.
DeMint's office provided a preliminary list of items that would be subject to his proposal:
— $975,000 for the University of California at Berkeley, for the Matsui Center for Politics and Public Service, which may include establishing an endowment, and for cataloguing the papers of Congressman Robert Matsui.
— $750,000 for the Berkeley/Albana ferry service.
— $243,000 for the Chez Panisse Foundation, for a school lunch initiative to integrate lessons about wellness, sustainability and nutrition into the academic curriculum.
— $94,000 for a Berkeley public safety interoperability program.
— $87,000 for the Berkeley Unified School District, nutrition education program.
The Marine official, speaking with FOX News on Friday, said Marine Commandant Gen. James Conway scoffed at the news, but there are no plans for to protest the City Council's decisions. There are definitely no plans to move the recruiting station either.
"To actually put something into law that encourages the disruption of a federal office is ridiculous. They are not going to kick a federal office out of its rightful place there, and this is not going to discourage those young patriots who want to be Marines," the official said.
The Berkeley City Council this week voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and "if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests," according to The Associated Press.
The council also voted to explore whether a city anti-discrimination law applies to the Marines, with a focus on the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy that prevents open homosexuality in the military.
The council also voted to give the antiwar group Code Pink a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week for six months, as well as a protest permit.
The Marine recruiting office in Berkeley has been open for about one year, but has been the subject of recent protests by Code Pink members.
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I'm a liberal, and a Marine, and I think this is hilarious. We will always need a military. We will always need those to defend this country. I agree Marines are the barbarians of the Marine Corps, but we love that fact. It seems like Vietnam is happening all over again, but they're trying to be more tactful this time around... I understand the point of view, the "don't ask, don't tell" policy is a conundrum, but it doesn't give anyone the right to object to people doing their duty. It's a riddle that needs to be figured out, not blasted. I know a lot of you don't approve of gays in the military, and I know we all have our opinions. I'm stating mine, just like you've all stated yours.
I'm a liberal, and a Marine, and I think this is hilarious. We will always need a military. We will always need those to defend this country. I agree Marines are the barbarians of the Marine Corps, but we love that fact. It seems like Vietnam is happening all over again, but they're trying to be more tactful this time around... I understand the point of view, the "don't ask, don't tell" policy is a conundrum, but it doesn't give anyone the right to object to people doing their duty. It's a riddle that needs to be figured out, not blasted. I know a lot of you don't approve of gays in the military, and I know we all have our opinions. I'm stating mine, just like you've all stated yours.
screw that. "most people here think they are a joke" some woman said....
yes the USMC is a joke. and so is your freedom to say so.
i'd go around and slap USMC bumper stickers on all the pink protestors cars. my personal fav is "because it can't always be somebody elses son"
yes the USMC is a joke. and so is your freedom to say so.
i'd go around and slap USMC bumper stickers on all the pink protestors cars. my personal fav is "because it can't always be somebody elses son"
I read about this a few days ago. Given that Berkeley is the birthplace of the hippy movement, I am not suprised at all.
There was a few letters to the editor in the San Fran Chron a few years back during Fleet Week in San Francisco. The Blue Angels were pretty much a tradition there, but due to protests and stuff by these people, they weren't allowed. Many were siting that The Blue Angels were nothing more than a symbol for the Oligarchic government of this country, and that they did nothing but pollute and provide a danger to the spectators.
There was a few letters to the editor in the San Fran Chron a few years back during Fleet Week in San Francisco. The Blue Angels were pretty much a tradition there, but due to protests and stuff by these people, they weren't allowed. Many were siting that The Blue Angels were nothing more than a symbol for the Oligarchic government of this country, and that they did nothing but pollute and provide a danger to the spectators.
Hi Everyone. I usually stay in the background and lurk but this topic is gets to my soul. I have family and friends in the military, and yes the MARINES included(two nephews), alot of them are either already serving in Afghanistan and Iraq or are getting ready for deployment to those places. To hear that those code pink pu$$ies and the Berkley tree huggers disrespect those who are serving just puts me off the deep end. I don't see any of them put their collective asses on the line. What are they doing protect us from Al Qeada and other terrorist organizations?? I can tell you not a f*cking god damn thing!!! All they're doing is sitting in Starbucks sipping their soy a$$ lattes and singing kumbaya.
Addressed to Code Pink and Berkley supporters- Well let me tell you code pink pu$$ies that you're able to sip your latte because it's paid for in blood of the men and women in the military who are serving and have served to protect our land and your freedoms. So if you don't like what the military is doing, I suggest that you go to Osama, give him some of your latte and ask him not to attack us anymore. Make sure you say PLEASE and give him a hit of your bong!! :arsenal
Addressed to Code Pink and Berkley supporters- Well let me tell you code pink pu$$ies that you're able to sip your latte because it's paid for in blood of the men and women in the military who are serving and have served to protect our land and your freedoms. So if you don't like what the military is doing, I suggest that you go to Osama, give him some of your latte and ask him not to attack us anymore. Make sure you say PLEASE and give him a hit of your bong!! :arsenal
I just recently joined the air force and have become a strong believer that everyone should serve a short term in the military.
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Heres the website, feel free to tell em what you think.
http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/citycouncil/
Nothing will change if you don't use your voice.
http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/citycouncil/
Nothing will change if you don't use your voice.
Interesting thread...
So far what I've picked from it is -
America is great we all have freedom of speech, and the military gave it to you... now shut the fuck up.
But seriously, maybe something good will come of what they are doing in Berkley. Like maybe the asinine "Don't ask don't tell" policy will change.
So far what I've picked from it is -
America is great we all have freedom of speech, and the military gave it to you... now shut the fuck up.
But seriously, maybe something good will come of what they are doing in Berkley. Like maybe the asinine "Don't ask don't tell" policy will change.
I spent 5 years in the Marines, and to be quite honest, I'd take a gay Marine who wants to defend his country over a scared little douchebag, who doesn't want to be there, and had to choose between serving or going to jail for something stupid he did.
I believe everyone should serve a short term as well, but then you also brought up another good point about having non-deserving lazy guys who don't want to attain their full potential and don't want to serve in the first place.
I believe everyone should serve a short term as well, but then you also brought up another good point about having non-deserving lazy guys who don't want to attain their full potential and don't want to serve in the first place.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/14/BAM9V1H00.DTL
What a bunch of crap. Berkely city council reverses its decision. thank god some people made their opinions known.
What a bunch of crap. Berkely city council reverses its decision. thank god some people made their opinions known.
Most people that have lived in the Bay Area, or at least in Northern California for very long have learned not to take anything that comes from either the Berkeley or San Francisco city councils seriously. These crackpots have always, and will always pull stunts like this. They're getting way to much attention lately.
i agree with jet mehanic, berkley and EVERYONE ELSE should realize that WITHOUT OUR MILITARY we would have no rights, we would be controlled by some other country, and you could bet that we wouldnt have THE FREEDOM that we enjoy...so to those that dont get it..wake up b4 its too late!!!:hmmm:
opcorn: I gotta here what the point REALLY is. Apparently the rest of us don't get it.
did i miss the point ? i thought we were about to be informed ? any way i now hate another city that appears to be full of asclowns that discriminate against others under the guise of ... why dont they like the MARINES again ? its all bs i hope a natural disaster hits them .
then send the fagass protesters to washington to do there protesting , protest the local federal building , better yet protest those places and voluntarily turn down all federal money and aid in protest . bet they wont do that ! so lets disrupt and harass the local recruiters , Marines that are CITIZENS that may or may not agree with the governments choices but choose to serve regardless while these gutless wana be intellect types hide behind the services of the very people they protest .
Then they need to give the recruiters the respect they deserve. By harrassing them and makeing asses of themselves their only working to demean the one who fight for them and gave them the freedom to do so publicly. The people who do this shit are the ones who don't realize that freedom is earned through war and blood. Yes our soldiers have died for those living in iraq, but how many iraqis have died fighting a loseing battle for ther own freedom. At the risk of sounding cheesy, our soldiers are fighting for those who can't fight for themselves. When our forefathers fought for our freedom it was alot easier. Rifles, knives, and cannons that was it. Now it's all about the man with the deeper pockets. People who think this is about oil and politics are idots. These liberal hippies in Berkley need to look around and think about what it would be like to live without the freedoms that they so happily use against the ones who give it to them. The people of iraq deserve the same freedom. Thats what we're fighting for. :arsenal
Thats the point. :thumbup:
As for your cousin, I would love to thank him forstanding up for all of us. And if it pisses you off that soldiers are getting killed in war, then your a dumb ass. No soldier is in against their will. And anyone who gets drafted, well thats part of the price of freedom. Any soldier that joins and gets upset that they have to fight shouldn't have signed up. I've decided to join, and I know there is a possibility I could go to war and die fighting for my country. But at least then I could die with honor knowing that I was defending my family and their freedom.
Titus
Thats the point. :thumbup:
As for your cousin, I would love to thank him forstanding up for all of us. And if it pisses you off that soldiers are getting killed in war, then your a dumb ass. No soldier is in against their will. And anyone who gets drafted, well thats part of the price of freedom. Any soldier that joins and gets upset that they have to fight shouldn't have signed up. I've decided to join, and I know there is a possibility I could go to war and die fighting for my country. But at least then I could die with honor knowing that I was defending my family and their freedom.
Titus
When you sign up you sign an 8 year contract, 4 years active, 4 years on call back. That applies til you reach 20 years. Then your on permenant call back til the age of 50 or so (not positive on that) But as long as your on call back status you still receive all the benifits of the military (health, dental, etc.) If you retire from 20+years service you retain your benifits for life.
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