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Brand new water pump, leaking oil again in same spot. !

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282 views 19 replies 6 participants last post by  HeathenHabits  
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As some of you may know. I’ve had some issues with the seals on my water pump. Or so I thought. I installed the new OEM water pump within the last couple of days onto my 07 GSXR600. The bike is running great, the shifts feel smoother. But that could be the oil I’m using, who knows. So today I park my bike after riding, and think to check the spot on my water pump where the old one had been leaking oil. And to my surprise there it is, same spot, same amount, like how does that happen. I wiped it off, rode home. Checked it and there it is, one big drop just waiting to drip to the ground. I don’t think it’s leaking when the bike is off, but for sure while it’s running. Please help me, I’m at a loss of what to do, or why this is happening.
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#3 ·
I don’t understand how that can be related to oil leaking from my brand new water pump. When I replaced it, I cleaned up all the gunk I could reach that was built up around the chain area behind water pump. There was a lot of thick, nasty goop. Can u explain to me why cleaning front sprocket is related to oil leaking from new water pump. Thanks you
 
#4 ·
It might be the o-ring of the water pump. If you exclude the chains lubrication, then you have to take the water pump out, look for the same or a little thicker o-ring and reassembly. There is always the possibility that you peeled your new o-ring during the assembly. Always apply the right lubrication for it.
 
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The pump came assembled.if your speaking of an oring inside of the water pump then it’s been applied. It did not come with any o-rings of outside of pump. Do I need to apply some type of o ring to the outside of pump connecting to its housing? And lubrication? Can you please explain more
 
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Yes, my new pump has an o-ring in that location. I’ve heard that that year and model, the o-ring isn’t the best, and that some ppl swap it out for an aftermarket o-ring. What’s your recommendation. Just to take off pump to lube o-ring. I’d like to first understand why my new pump is leaking oil from the same spot as the old one before I take off the pump. Considering I’ll need to at least drain the oil.
 
#11 ·
I thought you cold lean the bike to the right side to work on this, w/o draining the oil?

And depending on what you use for chain lubes and how often you do it, I've also seen a buildup/drip there also.
 
#12 ·
Okay that makes sense. To lean the bike to the right to prevent oil leaking. When I took off the old water pump. There was a large amount of buildup from chain splatter. I cleaned it up the best I could.
this current leak, I am positive on where it’s coming from. I’ve cleaned all surrounding areas and waited to see where it was leaking, to be sure it wasn’t running down to that spot from somewhere else. It’s most def leaking from that Phillips head bolt/screw at bottom of water pump. Where the pump splits. I added a photo of the split location except my leak is at bottom, I couldn’t get a decent pic from the bottom side.
 

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#13 ·
Did you replace the seal that goes between the waterpump and the case?
Did you use a torque wrench?
As said, I've rebuilt several Suzuki waterpumps, including my '03 Gsxr1k that I have be redoing, so the bike has been on and off my lift table upright in the wheel chock.
I rebuilt the waterpump, changed the oil, and went on to other projects on the bike.
Then I took that bike off of the lift to put another on it, and put my '03 on the kickstand.
Well, what you know, and oil leak...at the waterpump...yay.
How? I torqued the bolts to the service manual specs, and my Snap-On torque wrench was calibrated.
I then took a 1/4 drive ratchet and socket and snugged the bolts. Yes, they got tighter, and Yes...it stopped the oil leak.
Remember that those are steel bolts, going into aluminum, so it is very easy to strip or gual threads. I use a Small amount of anti-sieze to prevent that, but, an average of 10% less torque is adviseable first, then slowly add to it.
Sometimes you need to add a little more torque to certain fasteners, and they are usually small ones.
Proceed with caution when doing so, and if you don't have enough mechanical experience to know when a bolt has seated, and that the threads will strip if you continue, then you can learn to install a helicoil to fix it, lol
But seriously, try to slowly tighten the bolts, and see if they will turn anymore.
And, install the waterpump seal with a light coat of oil on it, which will help to prevent it from rolling, sticking, or tearing during installation.
You'll need to lean the bike to it's right side against something, or drain the oil to where there is none in the site glass(add it back when you're done obviously) before you remove the waterpump again, that way the oil level is below the opening in the case, and won't run out.
Make sure the impellar shaft is properly in the groove on the back of the waterpump, and engaged to the engine as well.
 
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I think I dialed in my leak. And to find out it may not be a leak. Still not 100% sure. I lubed my chain. Rode the bike. Checked the leak spot to find a dark substance sitting there. Traced it back to where my chain is, I think it’s been running down the right side of pump and resting at the spot I thought I’ve had a leak. But why is there oil there sometimes. Not sure. I took of my front sprocket cover and cleaned all the gunk and crud in that area. Will keep an eye on it. If there is a leak, it is extremely minor. Thankyou for the heads up on how tight those need to be. I have a tendency to over tighten things.
 
#14 ·
if you want to remove the waterpump without draining the oil, lean the bike to the right.
in my case, a paddock stand keeping the bike upright worked for me.
To make an educated guess, look at the oil level in the sight glass, and estimate the oil level if it is slightly below the waterpump housing

I am thinking if it's likely that the oil came from elsewhere, either the front sprockets oil seal, chain lube, or maybe the stator cover which is located in front of the waterpump

looks oily here, and here




this housing only has coolant
 
#20 ·
I just realized this yesterday after taking a closer look at the photo you drew a green line on, that’s exactly where it’s coming from. The source I have not dialed in yet, but wherever it is, is a very very small amount. Or at least it’s a very small amount making its way to the location described. Thankyou
 
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I believe it is quite unlikely to cause an edge rip.
Waterpump unit goes into a tapered hole of the engine case... so the oil seal would actually squeeze right in



  • watch this video it shows the weep hole for oil leak
  • in my reply in your previous thread, I explained possibilities of oil leak developed from the waterpump unit
  • if we're talking about the new waterpump, I suspect the oil leak is from other place