Welcome to the forum. If you have owned and ridden liter bikes in the past there is no reason to fear the new gsxr 1000. The newer bikes are more forgiving with the electronic rider aids and as far as I know the suspension they come with stock is pretty good for most people until they start really pushing the limits. Which is not that easy for most regular people. You’re overthinking it in my opinion.

 

I'm good at overthinking things, but I respect t power I know these have so there's that too. I guess my dilemma is not knowing if maybe a 750 will simply be more fun and enjoyable because not as much gobs of power all the time. I really wish I could ride both but of course not letting anyone test ride anything. I know I can't go wrong with both....1000 I'm sure would be amazing too just more to always be on top of. I have not even ridden many 750's so don't even remember their power. Thanks for the input. 🤙🏾

 

I currently ride a K5 Liter street, and a k6 Liter Track only.
Neither of the came with or have that electronically controlled steering damper like the newer ones have.

You've ridden way more bigger bikes that I have.

I agree with NewYorks advice also.

It didn't sound to me like you were planned on 'tracking' this one? I think it's be a great bike to have.

 

No I kind of had my road racing amateur experience and life racing when younger a bit. Then crashed at Road America at warp speed and kind of realized I wasn't making money and also risking my life a bit so chilled and went back to riding on the street only. So this would be primarily a street bike. It is just fun and nice to have that raw power to me...I am used to it because most of my bikes were litre bikes. I do want to experience the 750 though! If I could test ride them both I know I would know immediately which one I wanted to buy. I have to see about that ride event thing that would be really awesome to help this decision out!

 

Road America? Do you live anywhere around WI? Rd 'Merica is one of my local tracks! (1.25 hrs away). It's my favorite track. Which turn or area did you have your 'off' there?

 

I'm in the Chicago area. I was coming out of the carousel when the back kink was still there before they removed it. I was on gas to go through the back straight and some rider I didn't see was going super slow apparently a new track day rider and opted to run off into the grass to avoid hitting him full on. Rag dolled and bike was toast. Thankfully miraculously I was alright minus a sore back. That kink was crazy though. It's a fun track for sure but that was my close call to call it.

 

They still run the chicane....

Most of the people who complain about the stock suspension and dampers don't have a chassis problem, they have an ego problem. They want to talk about how they are such a good rider that the stock bike wasn't enough and how they have all these new expensive aftermarket stuff so the bike can keep up. The truth is the stock bike is better than they'll ever need.

 

Most of the people who complain about the stock suspension and dampers don't have a chassis problem, they have an ego problem. They want to talk about how they are such a good rider that the stock bike wasn't enough and how they have all these new expensive aftermarket stuff so the bike can keep up. The truth is the stock bike is better than they'll ever need.

I think you've hit the nail firmly on the head there. A properly set up stock bike will be much faster than a badly set up one with all the bling.

 

The R model Showa suspension is very good, and if you're under 200lbs in gear, proper sag is easy to set.
The stock dampner is nothing special, but works well for what it is.

 

Thanks. I'm just opting for regular 1000. I bought an akropovic slip on for the moment...an eliminator kit and an Ohlins damper to start. Proper sag and more will come shortly after...ideally I can dial in to my weight and maybe considering putting a 180 on the rear instead of a 190. Thoughts on that or tires that are good?

 

The base suspension works and handles good too.
The stock 190/55 also works well, no need to go to a 180
Tire brands are all personal opinions, I like the Dunlop Q series, and have ran them all over the years.

 

Also, a steering dampner won't prevent a tank slapper, they can help when the suspension is properly set, but they are really there to calm head shake.
I like the aftermarket dampners simply to dial in the feel of the handlebar resistance.
The stock dampner will do the job just fine though.
I am going to put an Ohlins dampner on my '03 1k though, but only because I have dirtbike bars on it, and can't fit one on the top triple-clamp because of bar clearance.
My suspension and brakes are aftermarket, and money well spent...but the price of those dampners is hard to swallow...I'de leave the oem one on the new bike, spend the money on better front brake pads, or a master cylinder.
The abs is decent for what it is, but I'de rather not have it; can you still buy a base Gsxr1k without abs?
I know '17-'19 you could.
The factory quickshifter is also pretty good too.
I know that was available on the non R model as well(I ride an '18 R)

 

I have a question and totally not sure if I am overthinking this new 2025 Gsxr 1000 purchase or actually being mature and logical now 52 lol. So I have ridden bikes on and off the track for years...majority of my bikes were litre bikes. Gsxr 1000 I had 208hp at rear wheel fully tuned front rear Ohlins shocks and damper totally dialed to me and my weight....but I spent lots to dial that it. I was able to do 140mph wheelies for miles on that bike to the point of the front wheel not spinning dead still chattering billowing smoke when touching the highway and always totally confident and good. But I would hammer on that thing all the time taking it to 180 and 190 and never once had any scary tank slappers or issues with it. Is this 2025 a concern or am a just totally overthinking this? BUT now I am reading up on these newer Gixxer 1000's and supposedly the dampers are pretty rubbish on them and suspension isn't great either with the aggressive power it puts out. Do I put an Ohlins damper on the 1000 and feel confident I won't have any major issues taking this thing to full speed hammering hard or should I just shift mindsets and just go with a Gsxr 1000? I have had RC-51's, Bimotas with Gsxr 1000 motors, Ducati 996's ,etc really only have ridden fast full on bikes. But again I am 52 and wanting to have more fun than trying to tame a beast all the time.

I don't mind the rowdy power, but again with only adding an exhaust and eliminator kit and Ohlins damper and stainless brake lines will that be enough to keep that bike from wanting to kill me? Yes I am well aware any bike even a 750 can be far enough power to do that as well. This video freaked me out a bit and really has me thinking.

Coming down on a +100mph wheelie risks a tank slapper whether you have a damper or not. Inducing one is more about dynamic changes, such as landing hard, or hitting a bump, or going light. You might have just been lucky if you never even felt one starting.

I have had a couple try to start, but the physics say to tuck down and push your body forward, over the wheel if you feel that vagueness starting in the front, whereas many riders end up doing what you'd do in a car or truck, which is to back off by letting go of the throttle which tends to prompt riders to sit up away from the controls which causes the wheel wobble, not diminish it.

What body weight were you then, and what are you now. This has to be a part of a proper discussion, so spill the beans on your body weight.

+1 for the 750. It's just a neater solution to an extreme road-going sports motorcycle, IMHO.

 

My 2023 feels really stable at high speeds, but I don’t really do wheelies. It’s a very ‘refined’ riding experience, I would describe the bike as extremely stable and easy to handle. I run A mode TCS set to 4 and I never feel like I’m fighting the bike, always does what I want it to, and keeps both wheels on the ground even under full throttle. I’ve never tried riding with TCS off because I never felt like it was preventing me from riding how I like to ride on the street, and I haven’t tracked this bike because it’s brand new.