[deanozx10r]

Ok this is what I did to my race bike for keyless ignition and should work for your auto start. You need an 100 ohm 1/8 watt resistor on the small orange wire and with my ignition (toggle) I had to spice the small and big orange wires together at toggle. I dont know how thats going to work with the ignition still there as on mine red power wire went to one side of the toggle and the orange wires to the other.

Then for the clutch you have to wire in a relay to fool the ecu into thinking the bike is neutral. Heres the link for the relay
http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=250801

 

[deanozx10r]

Just remember after the relay is put in the bike WILL start in gear so you know what that means if you forget to put her in neutral!!! Good luck

 

[Tripsrad83]

Just remember after the relay is put in the bike WILL start in gear so you know what that means if you forget to put her in neutral!!! Good luck

Ha ha! That'd be mega!
As you stroll over to your bike, people looking at you with your confident swagger. You pull out your key fob and arrogantly aim it at your bike. Click, bike starts and drags itself down the road smashing itself to pieces as it goes! :lol:

 

[deanozx10r]

I thought that my self with mine but chances are mine will be on the rear stand LOL:arsenal

 

[UltimatE]

Except all Suzuki's are made with kickstand safety switches which disables the engine if its in gear. (No fuel pump, no starter)

Have you taken into account the clutch safety switch with the remote start?

 

[SRAD600]

I know for a fact it can be done also as I used to do it and things like it for a living.

Like stated above tho its not smart and not too safe for the bike. I'm all for the "its your bike do what you want" and usually the first person to say it but this is just silly. It doesn't take my bike 5mins to reach 100deg on a cold day and that's good enough for me to start riding it(few seconds after 100 and its raising quick). Do what the rest of the world does and gear up while its running.

Now wth that being said I also like to do shit for the show off, check out what I wired up, I'm a genius factor...hell I made in cab winch controls for my Jeep as well as 3 wired plugs just because I can and had the parts. This just isn't smart tho. Bikes rear tires move a little while in N. The ground is enough to stop it USUALLY but clutch issues worsen that. If you want to take the chance with your bike go right ahead. Any store that installs remote starts can easily tell you how to by pass it. The again like me, they may be afraid you'll try and hold them accountable when your bike falls over since they told you how.

 

[SRAD600]

Except all Suzuki's are made with kickstand safety switches which disables the engine if its in gear. (No fuel pump, no starter)

Have you taken into account the clutch safety switch with the remote start?

That's just as easy to beat on a bike as it is in a car....both switches.

 

[UltimatE]

That's just as easy to beat on a bike as it is in a car....both switches.

Oh I know, I don't have an ignition on my bike anymore. I am finishing up my own keyless RFID ignition. Just asking the poster if he has a bypass system in place for the clutch switch. Its really easy to install another ignition system if you read the wiring diagrams, since the ignition switch is only 3 circuits.

As for the kickstand switch, it should be left intact as a safety precaution in case the owner leaves the bike in gear. In neutral, the switch is irrelevant.

 

[deanozx10r]

Except all Suzuki's are made with kickstand safety switches which disables the engine if its in gear. (No fuel pump, no starter)

Have you taken into account the clutch safety switch with the remote start?

For a race bike that gets removed and the switch is also bypassed. And the clutch switch is either bypassed or toggled, this is a purpose built race bike not a street bike.:thumbup:

 

[UltimatE]

For a race bike that gets removed and the switch is also bypassed. And the clutch switch is either bypassed or toggled, this is a purpose built race bike not a street bike.:thumbup:

Still not relevant to this thread or the poster's questions. Were talking about remote starts, therefore you're not next to the bike and the bike is on the kickstand. That means the kickstand safety switch should be intact, and a switchable relay setup for the clutch safety switch. If the bike is in gear, even with a clutch bypass relay, its not going to start on the kickstand.

The alarm/keyless ignition/remote start should be wired in parallel to the ignition. 3 circuits, one with a resistor as you mentioned above. Its pretty simple IMO and remote starts are perfectly safe as long as the safety devices are intact and not disabled.

 

[SRAD600]

Damn this is turning into a dead horse.


Its very possible and fairly easy if you have ever wired one in a car especially. There is even how to youtube vids(I wasnt looking per say, I was hoping to find one of a remote start in a bike going wrong). Since I could not find one of it going bad, I guess if you want to.....have at it, but lord knows it will never be on my bike.

Dont forget to come up with a way to make sure some one cant steal your bike. In a car its done through inserting the key, turning it to run, then pressing the brake. The brake turns off the remote start and then runs off the key. Works nicely since you have to depress the pedal any way to shift into gear on MOST automatic vehicles.

 

[deanozx10r]

Still not relevant to this thread or the poster's questions. Were talking about remote starts, therefore you're not next to the bike and the bike is on the kickstand. That means the kickstand safety switch should be intact, and a switchable relay setup for the clutch safety switch. If the bike is in gear, even with a clutch bypass relay, its not going to start on the kickstand.

The alarm/keyless ignition/remote start should be wired in parallel to the ignition. 3 circuits, one with a resistor as you mentioned above. Its pretty simple IMO and remote starts are perfectly safe as long as the safety devices are intact and not disabled.

The poster asked how to make this work I shed light on it in my experience with my bike. He'll have to use the info given if he wants. Im not sure how bike remotes work either do I care he had a problem and I think the info given helped.

 

[viper_dude_06]

Found this link in Google. Seems to have a bit more detailed info than people just saying connect a resistor. Haven't tried it yet but when I get the chance im definitely going to. If someone gets the chance to do it please let us know how the results turned out and what you did exactly....thanks

http://dsrforum.yuku.com/topic/4104/GSXR-1000-questions#.Ty8ATu6-m5F

 

[UltimatE]

It really is as simple as this... Think about what you do to start your bike from the factory:

1. Turn on key
2. Pull clutch in
3. Hit starter button

Taking 5 minutes to look at the wiring diagram for our bikes, you will see that the ignition consists of 3 circuits. A multimeter will confirm one circuit has a resistor (and the value of the resistor). A good remote start system will take care of these 3 steps. Hook up these systems accordingly. Done.

I see this more and more often... People just want the answers and what to do, instead of trying to understand the systems and how they work.

 

[viper_dude_06]

I see this more and more often... People just want the answers and what to do, instead of trying to understand the systems and how they work.

Dude I spent like 2 weeks going back and forth through my diagram and looking at the bike. I learned through one of the forums that you did need a resistor on one of the wires and found that wire but didnt quite know how to piece the resistor into the equation.

I have an '01 GSXR 750 and as far as the wires comeing off of the igniton in my diagram for the bike I have...The B/W is a GROUND wire. It turns out that, that is the wire I need to solder the resistor into coming from the O/Y wire on the same plug connector. Im dont work with electricity alot but I know POS and NEG dont mix at all... but im assuming that the resistor grounds out the power going through the O/Y wire by a certain amount or something. Whatever the case may be...it worked for me and my alarm/remote start works like it should without having to fully bypass the Ignition swith like it was a race bike.

Everything is in the link I posted up above. Atleast for GSXR. And as far as the quote I posted above dude....your right as about people wanting it the easy way....but these forums are here to help each other out and share our advice, experiences, and wisdom with each other.

 

[viper_dude_06]

Ok so heres an update on the Remote Start. First off...as ALOT of people state, THE BIKE WILL START IN GEAR if your bypass the clutch safty feature. Dont ask me how I know. Lets just say I get to buy those new Carbon Fiber mirrors I was looking at:headshake.

Any now I corrected my mistake and the bike Will Not start in gear with the Remote Start. I used one relay to bypassed the clutch and add the saftey of No gear start:thumbup:.

Ive made a simple diagram to follow for hooking up a relay to bypass the clutch and to make sure the bike doesnt start in gear. As stated before my bike is a 2001 GSXR 750. Im pretty sure with this diagram you can figure out what to do on your bike even if the colors dont match up. Like others have said before...im not responsible for damages or anything that goes wrong with your bike. I did this to mine and it worked perfect for me though

Im also using the Spy5000m alarm on my bike incase you wanted to know.

Heres the diagram hope it helps you out. Oh and just for the record im not an artist and it looks like a kid drew this but is still legable.

UPDATE.....THIS IS AN UPDATE IVE BEEN MEANING TO PUT. THE RELAY IS GOING TO HAVE 4 DIFFERENT SET OF NUMBERS ON IT OF COARSE. THE NUMBERS ARE 85, 86, 30, AND 87. GIVE ME A SECOND TO EXPLAIN WHY I AM BRINGING THIS UP. EVERY TIME I WOULD PULL THE CLUTCH IN I WOULD SEE THE NEUTRAL LIGHT COME ON EVEN IF THE BIKE WAS IN GEAR...BIG ANNOYANCE TO ME. WELL I WENT MESSING AROUND WITH THE RELAY AND FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS DOING IT BECAUSE I HAD THE NUMBER 85 AND NUMBER 30 WIRES BOTH TIED INTO THE BLUE WIRE COMING FROM THE GEAR SELECTOR SWITCH. SO THE UPDATE TO THIS IS THAT THE NUMBER 85 WIRE NEEDS TO BE TO A CONSTANT GROUND SOURCE LIKE THE BATTERY OR FRAME AND NOT CONNECTED TO THE BLUE WIRE LIKE I HAVE IN THE DIAGRAM. THIS WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM. SORRY BOUT THAT. JUST A LITTLE TRIAL AND ERROR IS ALL.

IVE ALSO COME UP WITH AN ANTI THEFT USING A SECOND RELAY SO PEOPLE WONT RIDE AWAY WITH THE BIKE IF YOU HAVE IT SITTING OUT WITH REMOTE START RUNNING, WHILE YOUR IN THE HOUSE. JUST HAVE TO SET IT UP AND TRU IT OUT BUT IM LIKE 90 PERCENT SURE ITLL WORK THE FIRST TIME I TRY IT OUT. JUST GOTTA DO IT.

 

[Rowdy84]

ever have your bike on a rear stand, start the bike in neutral and watch the rear wheel spin...probably a good reason not to have a remote starter on a bike me thinks.

Im not to sure on the techical terms here so bare with me.. Its called "Free spinning" due to the fact the motor is running with no resistance on the tire. Typically caused by the clutch being a little out of adjustment. With all that said a bike is just as safe to start with a remote start as it is sitting on it. No bike drops into gear n runs away all by itself...